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I prefer a slight change. The current size is fine to me. A weightloss will be good. And the MBA style keyboard, trackpad and latch is a must!

Do you really belive we'll see some of the things discussed in this thread in the summer? Or should i get my hopes up for start of 09?
I really don't care about specs, but as soon as they redesign this machine, i'm off to buy.
 
This thread is GREAT in showing that most mockup artists have absolutely NO imagination whatsoever....

Plenty of God given talent and they will excel in all areas of graphics they choose, but only if they gain creativity and imagination. Most of the designs are just the bottom or a MBA or MBP with the bezel of an iMac, or a black MBP. Nothing truly original.

So did you have one that you wanted to post??? Just so you know, I spent about 15 minutes doing that mockup just for kicks. If you really wanted me to give it a go, I pretty much designed the iPhone interface about a year before it was even rumored! It's easy to be a critic. :rolleyes:
 
Interesting, but most designs seem to convey the same basic idea. I'm just pulling for the 12" MBP.... my 12" PB is nice, but there are some things it could do better. I swear, I can't get over it, everything else just looks so wide compared to it... :cool:
 
The above re-designs were all the results of thinking "inside the box".

... but, nice enough PS skills I guess.

Exactly.... ! Great skill by anyone's standards.

So did you have one that you wanted to post??? Just so you know, I spent about 15 minutes doing that mockup just for kicks. If you really wanted me to give it a go, I pretty much designed the iPhone interface about a year before it was even rumored! It's easy to be a critic. :rolleyes:

All mockup artists say that, and not that I am angry or trying to attack you, (because you did a good job, just nothing innovative/different/truly creative) but it's the weakest defense in business.

Just because you don't like a painting, or think it's bland doesn't mean you know how to paint. What about those that don't like the way a cartoon is drawn, doesn't mean they are cartoonists or artists. It's just an opinion really, one based on truth, but an opinion non the less.

Once again I think the mockups show a great deal or talent.... but like many things being produced and uploaded as a "mockup" they are unimaginative, and very basic.

Simply put, can we have original mockups, like.... something that isn't just a MBA base and keyboard with an iMac ultra-wide-for-a-laptop-screen bezel? Or just a plain black MBP? The rumor did say redesign, not slapped together.
 
The rumor said "major redesign" ...

I keep hoping that the MBA multi-touch track pad was just the beginning and that Apple will really raise the design/interface bar with the next MBP and not just stop where the MBA left off.

Ya know what!? I really like you SW because you speak my language. I agree 110%. I wanted that with the Penryn books but I had a feeling it wasn't coming. Ordered it cuz I needed it but still want that major redesign.

Stagnant is the least that could be said for the current MBP design. Almost 5 years old now, it works, but when you compare it to the other laptops out there it's starting to look behind the times. Not to mention that none of the other Apple book models take design cues from the MBP.

The magnetic latch is reason enough to redesign the case. And as my signature says, can we get just a little more muscle in the Pro models, and I don't mean USB ports, YUCK!!!. The 17" Penryn has far surpassed what I was expecting, so I'm not complaining, but that one extra FW800 or 400 port would be welcomed. I could care less for the new keyboard, it doesn't matter to me, but yes on the new/bigger trackpad, and yes on a case design that allows for better cooling for bigger chips.... say a Dual 2.8 GHz chip...

And maybe..... just maybe dual HDDs on the 17" .... huh.... I took it too far? Okay... just the one will do then. :D
 
Thanks DS. You're a photographer - you should play PS MAC designer for a half hour and put up an image. Even I posted what I think the new MBP will look like either on this thread or another. Winner of worst Photoshop Award btw!

Oh, and I'm totally ready to buy the MBP that you spec'd.
 
I really hope the MacBook Pro's look completely different from the mock-ups. All of them are nice and everything, but all of them are pretty much a MacBook Air keyboard on a MBP body with a magnetic latch. Not exactly what I could call a major redesign.
 
I love working with PS too, and currently shoot with a sony alpha-a, looking at stepping up on a new model. I was thinking of making a mock up, but have no clue where to begin....perhaps I will start on mine...
 
This thread is GREAT in showing that most mockup artists have absolutely NO imagination whatsoever....

Plenty of God given talent and they will excel in all areas of graphics they choose, but only if they gain creativity and imagination. Most of the designs are just the bottom or a MBA or MBP with the bezel of an iMac, or a black MBP. Nothing truly original.

couldnt agree with you more.

its like, when was the last time apple created a new product, and designed it by taking one design element from every product, put them all together, and gave it the previous name.

Come on people....get creative and think of something we havent seen!


and think your mockups through. if the bezel is VERY rounded (first one) the case willllll be to!:D
 
Clever play on words, but surely we [and these design predictors] have enough evidence to go on to make a reasonably accurate prediction here. Why the craving for off the wall?

Apple have started a theme of thin, with no more magnetic activated catches swinging down, a neat cutaway at the front, larger trackpads, a flat black, backlit keyboard and more aluminium - or less!

If you want to see Zero Halliburton Stealth style carbon fibre, red Apple logos, touch screen keyboards or the latest brain implants from Mars, employing the 3TB NanoTech processor... design one yourself! But don't expect Apple to release one like it - just yet.

Otherwise, I think it's safe to say we've seen the best intelligent guess as to what's actually coming next - based on a realistic assessment of the available information.


The above re-designs were all the results of thinking "inside the box".
 
The above re-designs were all the results of thinking "inside the box".

Clever play on words, but surely we [and these design predictors] have enough evidence to go on to make a reasonably accurate prediction here. Why the craving for off the wall?

Apple have started a theme of thin, with no more magnetic activated catches swinging down, a neat cutaway at the front, larger trackpads, a flat black, backlit keyboard and more aluminium - or less!

If you want to see Zero Halliburton Stealth style carbon fibre, red Apple logos, touch screen keyboards or the latest brain implants from Mars, employing the 3TB NanoTech processor... design one yourself! But don't expect Apple to release one like it - just yet.

Otherwise, I think it's safe to say we've seen the best intelligent guess as to what's actually coming next - based on a realistic assessment of the available information.

Okay, your right. I posted this MBP design on another thread, but you convinced me. Put up or shut up. So here it is again ...
 

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Interesting, but most designs seem to convey the same basic idea. I'm just pulling for the 12" MBP.... my 12" PB is nice, but there are some things it could do better. I swear, I can't get over it, everything else just looks so wide compared to it... :cool:

I think that if Apple came back out with a full functioning 12 inch case with MBP spec lines, it would be a run away winner and money maker. The 12 inch PBG4 has one of the truly great keyboards in a small laptop.:apple:
 
Exactly.... ! Great skill by anyone's standards.



All mockup artists say that, and not that I am angry or trying to attack you, (because you did a good job, just nothing innovative/different/truly creative) but it's the weakest defense in business.

Just because you don't like a painting, or think it's bland doesn't mean you know how to paint. What about those that don't like the way a cartoon is drawn, doesn't mean they are cartoonists or artists. It's just an opinion really, one based on truth, but an opinion non the less.

Once again I think the mockups show a great deal or talent.... but like many things being produced and uploaded as a "mockup" they are unimaginative, and very basic.

Simply put, can we have original mockups, like.... something that isn't just a MBA base and keyboard with an iMac ultra-wide-for-a-laptop-screen bezel? Or just a plain black MBP? The rumor did say redesign, not slapped together.

Yes the rumor did say a redesign I know. If you read my post, all I did was basically color one black for the people that like the black to see. I had no intent on trying to design Apple's innovative new laptop. I work full time and go to school full time and it's finals right now, I have a life lol. I can't speak for others but I pride myself in thinking out of the box however, I promise you that when the new laptops are announced they will look something similar to the mockups you have seen in here. How much can you change a laptop without implementing future things like the multi-touch surface etc. I know Apple is going to do that in the next couple years, but not right now. It is still going to be a wedge with a screen and a keyboard for now lol. So maybe you should learn photoshop and start some mock-ups of your own or start a company that thinks out of the box which is what I am currently in the process of doing ;)
 
You're confusing design with style.

Apple's style IS 'basic' for want of a better word. I prefer 'clean and industrial', but basic sort of covers the fact of there being very little of anything that offends, and absolutely no clutter.

But design is a whole other game. Design is what's in it, how it's made, where everything fits and how it works. Sure the outer structure and general aesthetics are designed, but Apple are all about the whole, as opposed to offering style over substance by creating fussy, ugly multi-layered surfaces, flashing LEDs, and adding stickers and bits of plastic for effect.

If you want to see a real horror story - definitely the result of someone thinking completely outside his own gourd, never mind outside the box, take a look at the vomit inducing, space wasting garbage that is Alienware's Area 51 m9750, dubbed the: "17-inch Widescreen Notebook Multimedia Powerhouse". What it lacks in looks, it makes up for in lamentable performance, massive thickness, backbreaking weight and wallet robbing price tag.

Anyone who buys that pile of crap, or any of Alienware's ridiculous desktop monstrocities deserves to be stabbed by a random skitsoid on day release...

in my humble opinion.
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Design critic & Diplomatic Corp dropout

Once again I think the mockups show a great deal or talent.... but like many things being produced and uploaded as a "mockup" they are unimaginative, and very basic.

Simply put, can we have original mockups, like.... something that isn't just a MBA base and keyboard with an iMac ultra-wide-for-a-laptop-screen bezel? Or just a plain black MBP? The rumor did say redesign, not slapped together.
 
LOL

I really like that. And I guarantee if you sat in Central Park doing your emails on that Pizza box design, eventually someone would come up to you and say: "Cool laptop"! Maybe a homeless guy hoping he's wrong and it's really a pizza box... but maybe not:p

You can put that logo on anything today, and people will say they like it. Must be something to do with wanting to be part of the cognitive process that is the new universal acceptance of Apple. Only crusty old Macfascists like me are cress enough to admit that they saw their first Mac in 1985!

Okay, your right. I posted this MBP design on another thread, but you convinced me. Put up or shut up. So here it is again ...
 
MacFly123, I really like your mockup. It's pretty damn sexy.

Thank you :) Like I defended before I just threw it together in 15 minutes for the people that wanted to see a black one. I think a lot of the people in here doing the mock-ups just did something like that. I think they should all get a round of applause for at least trying to render what the article described instead of big headed people trying to rake them over the coals as if they are Steve Jobs demanding the latest design from Jonathan Ive :rolleyes: Good job everyone, don't let all the people in here stifle your motivation :)
 
You're confusing design with style.

Apple's style IS 'basic' for want of a better word. I prefer 'clean and industrial', but basic sort of covers the fact of there being very little of anything that offends, and absolutely no clutter.

But design is a whole other game. Design is what's in it, how it's made, where everything fits and how it works. Sure the outer structure and general aesthetics are designed, but Apple are all about the whole, as opposed to offering style over substance by creating fussy, ugly multi-layered surfaces, flashing LEDs, and adding stickers and bits of plastic for effect.

Apple's design credo for the past decade has been heavily influenced by the visual concepts and "rules of design" of Dieter Rams - from Braun's products of the 50's and 60's to the Apple of now. What makes Jonathan Ive such a wonderful design visionary is that he looks backward to look forward.

In other words, he goes much further than looking at his own products for inspiration. And, he thinks outside the box. Which is why I look forward to spending my money on the boxes he designs.
 
Thank you for that. I was about to turn in, but decided to Google: 'rules of design of Dieter Rams' and found this article: <http://www.rmmlondon.com/archive/dieter-rams-manifesto-for-good-communications/>

It's not until someone points out the pedigree and lineage of good design, that one appreciates it fully. I used to study such links, but I've got out of touch lately.

I was actually surprised at how incredibly similar the Braun calculator is to the iPhone. But then Woody Guthrie said: "There's nothing new under the sun - he only stole from me... but I steal from everybody!"

That one works best if you hear it told by Pete Seeger on the 1970s recording of his live appearances with Arlo at Carnegie Hall.
:)

Apple's design credo for the past decade has been heavily influenced by the visual concepts and "rules of design" of Dieter Rams - from Braun's products of the 50's and 60's to the Apple of now. What makes Jonathan Ive such a wonderful design visionary is that he looks backward to look forward.

In other words, he goes much further than looking at his own products for inspiration. And, he thinks outside the box. Which is why I look forward to spending my money on the boxes he designs.
 
Thank you for that. I was about to turn in, but decided to Google: 'rules of design of Dieter Rams' and found this article: <http://www.rmmlondon.com/archive/dieter-rams-manifesto-for-good-communications/>

It's not until someone points out the pedigree and lineage of good design, that one appreciates it fully. I used to study such links, but I've got out of touch lately.

I was actually surprised at how incredibly similar the Braun calculator is to the iPhone. But then Woody Guthrie said: "There's nothing new under the sun - he only stole from me... but I steal from everybody!"

That one works best if you hear it told by Pete Seeger on the 1970s recording of his live appearances with Arlo at Carnegie Hall.
:)

Your welcome. :) Every good ID student (of which I am not) learns those rules. Mr. Ive has mastered them.

Both my Guthrie and Seeger LP's are buried deep in storage - much deeper than my CD's! I'll try and track down the recording online.

Goodnight.
 
Yes the rumor did say a redesign I know. If you read my post, all I did was basically color one black for the people that like the black to see. I had no intent on trying to design Apple's innovative new laptop. I work full time and go to school full time and it's finals right now, I have a life lol. I can't speak for others but I pride myself in thinking out of the box however, I promise you that when the new laptops are announced they will look something similar to the mockups you have seen in here. How much can you change a laptop without implementing future things like the multi-touch surface etc. I know Apple is going to do that in the next couple years, but not right now. It is still going to be a wedge with a screen and a keyboard for now lol. So maybe you should learn photoshop and start some mock-ups of your own or start a company that thinks out of the box which is what I am currently in the process of doing ;)

I agree, we are all busy, and I am not asking for a sweet new mockup with great curves, just that if you are going to do it don't take the lazy way out (for those that did) and photoshop an iMac onto a MacBook Air.

I would love to make a mockup but Apple doesn't pay me to do so, or think about what their computers look like. I have a job and a family, so I don't waste much of my time on things like that. I know photoshop more than most, trust me, 90% of the shooters in the photography forum are really showing me how users don't utilize photoshop correctly, and a lot of the mockups show me the same thing.

Making a mockup correctly, is probably better done in Maya or a CADD program, otherwise you are doing what is being done, pulling someone else's work and pasting onto something else.

As for designing something different, take a look at every other PC maker. They are wedges with screens and keyboards, but they all look different. The Air looks different, and no matter what people say the MacBook looks nothing like the iBook.

Trust us, every time there is a mockup for a new proposed Apple product it looks nothing like the actual product, not even close. From the G5 iMac to the Al iMac, iPhone, iPod touch, even.... the MacBook Air. But as you say, most mockup artists don't have the time or proper tools to make the mockups, but the Apple engineers and designers do. Since mockups artists don't put as much brain power into it (I am sure Apple and Ives are discussing design with a bunch of professional designers while the mockup guys are doing on their own accord and what they think is cool, rather than what's really different.) the designs come out looking rather childish at time, and other times they look great, but we know they won't happen at all because it's against Apple's design motif.

p.s. No one is bashing the skills of the artists, just their motivation. So for all the artists out there, good job, don't let laziness stifle your innovation, think outside of the box and stop accepting mediocrity.
 
Yes, the 'Back in Black' is good lookin' :D personally i think the MacBook will go aluminum and the new MacBook Pro enclosure will be Carbon :D

I posted this somewhere else so forgive the redundancy.

Macbook will go aluminum according to Appleinsider. "MacBooks will undergo the most significant metamorphosis, shedding their plastic enclosures for ones constructed from more eco-friendly materials such as aircraft-grade aluminum and stainless steel, people familiar with the matter say."
 
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