All these years later, the Macbook Air is still Apple's most popular laptop

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by Adelphos33, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. Adelphos33 macrumors 6502a

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    I was at a genius bar recently, and 75% of the laptops being used by customers were Macbook Airs. Even the laptops used by the geniuses to do diagnostics were Macbook Airs.

    During travel, at coffee shops, etc, Macbook Airs continue to dominate.

    Why hasn't apple been able to make a real successor to the Macbook Air when it comes to customer reception, value to the customer, ease of use, etc?
     
  2. Fancuku macrumors 65816

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    The Air sells the most because it is Apple’s cheapest laptop. The great battery life has something to do with it too.

    The 13” MBP starts at $1500 (256gb). That is a lot of money for 95% of the people who still buy laptops.
     
  3. Scepticalscribe macrumors Westmere

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    Personally, I would argue that the Air is popular because:

    1) It is exceptionally reliable, (I'm typing this on one, and it is easily the best computer I have had in my life).

    2) It is very portable - Apple (and tech types) sometimes forget that women buy computers, too. I'm middle aged and female, and I want something portable, powerful and reliable - the MBA fulfils that need.

    3) Already mentioned: Great battery life. I can sit in a coffee shop - or, borrowed office - all day and do a decent day's work on a charge.

    4) Also already mentioned: Affordable. Although my MBA - a maxed out 11" (512 GB SD, 8 GB RAM, Core i7) was not an entry level model.

    5) Still marries well with the wider ecosystem, and the 11" has two USB ports (the 13" has three). Technology may have introduced us to the next generation, but many of us still need - and use - USB ports.

    6) No need for a million dongles.

    7) I like the magsafe.

    8) My computer is more than powerful enough to do anything and everything I ask of it.

    9) A retina screen would be nice, but it is not a necessity; given a choice between battery life and retina screen, my professional needs demand battery.
     
  4. MacRazySwe, Oct 24, 2017
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    Because Apple have chosen not to listen to their customer base, thinking they know best what their customers want. Like they always do. (Trashcan Mac Pro comes to mind, so does the iPhone without headphone-jack, iMac without SuperDrive et.c.).

    Pretty much like Henry Ford did when he built a car, rather than faster horse carriages. However, unlike Henry Ford, Apple are very much out of touch with their customer base.

    Everything we asked for was an updated MacBook Air with better displays. I think Apple has been wrong many times lately. When it comes to MacBooks, I think people aren’t really ready for the wireless world just yet.

    Hell, I work at a company which was founded as one of the worlds first cloud services in 1998. Before the cloud even existed, really. I’d like to think we are on the forefront when it comes to technology - and still, most people swear by their old MacBook Air.

    I don’t necessarily think Apple are wrong with their vision, but just way, way too ahead of their time.
     
  5. KingslayerG5 Suspended

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    Cheap
    Reliable
    Longest battery life
    USB-A
    MagSafe
    SD slot
    Glowing Apple logo

    Kinda a no-brainer. Best product Apple ever made next to the iPhone SE which also is fast, cheap, reliable, maintains headphone jack, and still has a timeless design.

    I hope more people realize the more expensive product doesn't mean it's better. MBA is more powerful than 12" MB and cheaper. The SE is more powerful than the 6 and cheaper.

    Satisfaction and reliability scores on the MBA is high. And anybody I see commenting on the SE are extremely happy with it. The irony that the budget-friendly MBA and SE are the most reliable w/ long battery life.
     
  6. Pakaku macrumors 68020

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    They want the 12" Macbook to be the successor, considering that huge jump in price-point. The Air still sells because customers are a little smarter than that.
     
  7. Apple fanboy macrumors Nehalem

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    My new maxed out 13" arrived today (work machine).
    I could have a MacBook or MacBook Pro, but would have cost the firm nearly double.
     
  8. RedTomato macrumors 601

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    I'm one of the many who work in IT and I love my 2013 MBA. I do quite want to update it but I can't see any benefit to getting the 2017 MBA. I wouldn't mind a MBP, but I hate the new keyboard and I don't want to pay for a useless TouchBar. So I'm saving my money and hanging onto my perfectly serviceable 5 year old aluminium laptop that still looks brand new and happens to beat most laptops half its age.

    My MBA wishlist:

    - Move to m.2 SSD, for the love of god please. It'll save Apple pots of money, and let you provide bigger SSDs for cheaper, and also make MBAs more upgradeable for those of us who like upgrading them. You're already *almost* using the m.2 SSD standard anyway. (It wasn't yet finalised when the MBA first came out).
    - Better screen like everyone says here.
    - Keep everything else the same.

    - If you really want something new and shiny, maybe bring over the fingerprint scanner from the iPhone. I love it, especially for password management. But not the TouchBar.
     
  9. ZapNZs macrumors 68020

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    It's still a solid pick in 2017.



    They definitely do, which I find nearly comical given how different the retina MacBook and MacBook Air is.

    They are not interchangeable IMO - both are good computers and one can and often will do a much better job at meeting someone's needs/preferences than the other. Give the MBA a screen upgrade (it doesn't have to be as significant an upgrade as with the MBP), upgrade the TB2-MDP to TB3-USB-C, and it's good to serve for years to come.
     
  10. RedTomato macrumors 601

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    Agree.
    Disagree.

    I see no need for TB3 over TB2 on the MBA, and there isn't much out there that that even challenges TB2. Apple still needs ways to differentiate their ranges, and frankly it's adding more cost that could be better spent on the MBA screen. Don't give Apple ideas for more useless updates :)

    Also I have yet to to see any devices using USB-C in the wild. USB3 with dongles will cover for USB-C for a while longer. USB-C is definitely the way forward but the MBA doesn't need it yet.

    USB-C also, in Apple's mind, means getting rid of the magnetic charger. Three times today alone my kids have tripped over the charger wire. I'd have three smashed laptops (or the same one smashed three times) if it wasn't for the magnetic charger.
     
  11. ftaok macrumors 603

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    The 13" MBA actually has 2 USB ports. It does have an SDXC port that the 11" doesn't
     
  12. RedTomato macrumors 601

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    That SXDC port is invaluable for adding cheap(ish) internal flash memory that doesn't protrude or affect battery life (when not being used). Macbook doesn't have that.
     
  13. Pugly macrumors regular

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    The Air kinda hit the sweet spot for what people want in a laptop. The design started out great, then the performance was improved, then the battery life improved, then the price dropped, and intel's graphics have been getting better.

    And now that the Air is at it's end of product life, it still has everything people need without the drastic changes, compromises and price of Apple's other laptops.

    If you want macOS, don't need anything flashy and want to spend a reasonable amount of money(which is of course relative), the Air is really the only option right now. It's the best embodiment of Apple's "it just works" ad campaign. It could be better, but it works and that's what people need.
     
  14. Scepticalscribe, Oct 24, 2017
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    It works perfectly well, and is incredibly reliable. A splendid solid, reliable machine that just works, looks great, has a wonderful battery life, and is extremely portable. And powerful, too.

    People value these features.

    Personally, not only do I not like the keyboard on the rMB, I loathe the idea of the Touchbar, and do not see why USB-C is, - for now - necessary.

    I used to have a 15" MBP, but I will repeat what I have written here and elsewhere; the MBA is hands-down the best computer I have had by far in my life.
     
  15. torana355 macrumors 68040

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    Love my 2011 MBA, best computer ive ever owned not due to the specs but its reliability. If Apple put a decent 1080p IPS screen in the MBA it would probably cannibalise MBP sales big time. Not many people need the power of a MBP but we still want a decent screen.
     
  16. KhunJay macrumors 6502

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    whats so great about this? like you ever see it considering ur always on the other side of the machine
     
  17. Strelok macrumors 6502a

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    The only real downside to the MBA was just the crappy TN panel. Other than that, it's really still a great laptop.
     
  18. Kebabselector macrumors 68030

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    The screen is the only let down on my 11" MBA - but even then I'm happy with the product as it does everything I need and is probably the best value I've had from an Apple product in recent years (I did pick it up during a Black Friday deal with an additional 12% staff discount though!).
     
  19. Mike MA macrumors 68020

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    Mine runs out of OS support next year most certainly. But still I refuse to buy into a nearly ten year old design.
     
  20. Bazza1 macrumors member

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    I'm happily bashing away on my mid-2011 11' Air. I'd consider moving to the 13", but I suspect that by the time I'm forced to do the move, it will no longer exist. I got the Air for its size, weight and, oh yeah...portability and functionality - the real points behind a notebook. And I'm not prepared to even consider the base replacement MacBook at its price point and with its lack of functionality. Even if it has a cool screen.

    Apple wants us either to go to a iPad Pro as a replacement, or drink the Kool-Aid and accept less is more (works in design and architecture - less so in technology) with MacBooks. In my case, it'll probably result in moving (back) to a significantly less expensive - but just as capable - Windows notebook.
     
  21. Isamilis, Oct 25, 2017
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    I couldn't agree more. I used to have 13" 2012 MBA, for about 5 years, until I have to switch using rMBP. I think MBA screen is degraded more since 10.10 version. The OS focused more for retina display. I prefer 10.9 in MBA screen compared to 10.10+

    I think Air has 4 most needed features for most people: reasonable price, solid hardware, mobility (form factor), and battery life. While the other 13" line, such as rMB, rMBP gives you additional features, obviously better features but not as needed as the above 4 in MBA.

     
  22. Yvan256 macrumors 603

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    As a Mac mini user with an old non-retina display*, that's the one thing that's keeping me on 10.9.5, with 10.10 and above the fonts and everything looks really bad on a "normal" display.

    * Tim Cook: my display is a ViewSonic VP171s from 2005, still works fine even though it's more than "five-years-old technology".
     
  23. DocMultimedia macrumors 6502a

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    Love my 2012 MacBook Air, but with only 4 gig of RAM it is getting sluggish on some apps. Will probably by a 2017 w/ 8 gig in the near future. Like it for all the same reasons others have mentioned. I got a MBP w/ Touch Bar at work the other day. Powerful, but keyboard bothers me, and the Touch Bar really is pointless.
     
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    All I want from MacBook Air is Retina. Apple doesn't need to change much from it.

    iPhone X - $1000, 3GB RAM
    iPad Pro 12.9 - $800, 4GB RAM
    MBA - $800, 8GB RAM
     
  25. BornAgainMac macrumors 603

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    I am sad that Apple got rid of the Air 11 but technically the 13 inch was better with the faster drive, updated CPU, SD card slot, and best battery life of any Mac portable laptop ever made.
     

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