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It’s not a standard, it’s a protocol Google advocates, why would you expect Apple to help with making its competitor’s technology a standard? Apple has its own technology that it wants to make an industry standard, Google doesn’t help with any of those, either.
Apple has purposefully not ported imessage to android specifically to aid in lock-in to Apple. What technology here are you talking about that Apple wants to make a standard?
 
Apple has declined to comment on RCS, and there's no sign that Apple plans to adopt it in the near future.
And they have zero plans in doing so period, because iMessages is MUCH MUCH more encrypted and secure than RCS will be.


Apple would rather release iMessages for Android and then completely eliminate SMS functions on iOS, iPadOS AND macOS than release RCS on these platforms. It simply does not align with Apple’s privacy policy.
 
Armchair CEO here. Apple, get your head out your *** and get on board. If I have to use SMS because your snobbery won’t be bothered with working with RCS…. That’ll be a very bad look and not in line with your “commitment to privacy”
 
Today from The Sun:
"GOOGLE allegedly admitted to listening to conversations recorded by Google Assistant even without a user's "Hey Google" trigger"

Google is the world's biggest advertiser. The lion's share of its huge revenue comes from gathering as much data on a user as possible to monetize that knowledge of each specific user. The more data it can gather on it the more the revenue. This is public record, it is not a secret.
Gee, what could go wrong with massive incentivizing of gathering as much data on a user as possible.
CNBC - PUBLISHED WED, AUG 28 2019 11:10 AM EDT
"Apple apologizes for listening to Siri conversations"
 
Today from The Sun:
"GOOGLE allegedly admitted to listening to conversations recorded by Google Assistant even without a user's "Hey Google" trigger"

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And they have zero plans in doing so period, because iMessages is MUCH MUCH more encrypted and secure than RCS will be.


Apple would rather release iMessages for Android and then completely eliminate SMS functions on iOS, iPadOS AND macOS than release RCS on these platforms. It simply does not align with Apple’s privacy policy.
Can you point me to something, anything, indicating Apple has any interest in iMessage for Android?
 
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Which, again, has nothing to do with implementation of the protocol by the three major carriers.

But has precisely to do with my response post about security ("security" being mentioned in the article) as well as how much Google can be trusted (by another poster, hence my response).
1. don't like content of reply, don't read it. 2 since you did, while reading isn't required but it is almost always helpful.
 
I don't think Apple cares about security, they really just want the world to buy their products. Apple would rather have people buy an iPhone and use iMessages, than RCS.

I had an android for a while and have been following the RCS talk for years, then got tired of waiting and bought an iPhone 11.

Apple got their way.
 
But has precisely to do with my response post about security ("security" being mentioned in the article) as well as how much Google can be trusted (by another poster, hence my response).
1. don't like content of reply, don't read it. 2 since you did, while reading isn't required but it is almost always helpful.
You don’t have to trust Google to trust your cell provider. Your position is tantamount to saying HTTP is bad because you don’t trust one of the companies involved in its creation.

Neither Google, nor your opinion of Google, has anything to do with the implementation of this standard by other companies.
 
The point, I think he's making, is that Google owns the "RCS App", so it 'sees' the unencrypted information sent and received. Therefore, it could use it for its ad empire.
End to end encryption "should" stop Google from reading what is in the message.
BUT its all the meta information that just as important, Who sent it, Who received it, Where were they, What time, how large (txt, picture, video ), what device specs (Brand, Model), how often these 2 exchange messages, etc etc etc.
 
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Ah, the 'they're all do it, they're all the same, don't bother with that security thing'.

A voice activated mic that connects to corporate servers will do just that, for better or for worse. Apple isn't sainthood embodied, they're a for profit corporation. Yet one company doesn't monetize that data and will in September be providing local voice activated mic. No return voice activated traffic if you decide. The other company gathers as much data as possible including words spoken to the mic and accidental words spoken to the mic. Recorded and used (see the court case in California). The revenue value of that is above the revenue of Samsung Electronics the company.

Here's a great exercise for all of you 'see! they are all the same'. It's very easy to do except getting the file from one of the companies due to the size of the file. Both Apple and Google will provide your data included words recorded on voice activation. It's free, links are available. I can provide them, I've already done it.
Fyi, one company in their data will not have recorded voice (among countless other items no recorded). One company will have a file size staggeringly huge and you will get to see all kinds of things you've said, typed to contacts, everywhere you've gone, everything you've ever searched for -- to name some of the many goodies. A walk down memory lane.
Will those making the 'they all do it' claim back it up or are they just a lot of bravado on the internet?
 
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Apple has not been and likely won't be an early adopter. If this works out as described post deployment, Apple will adopt the standard unless its a threat in some way to iMessage. It could be since the ad for iMessage is security vs SMS which would go away. Still, I think in the end, it will be adopted.
Lol this has been out for years so they would be far from an "early adopter." Also this does nothing but further enhances iMessage (encrypts it so even if you are messaging say someone with Google Messages your messages would be end to end encrypted, which isn't the case now hence the "green bubble stigma."
 
End to end encryption "should" stop Google from reading what is in the message.
BUT its all the meta information that just as important, Who sent it, Who received it, Where were they, What time, how large (txt, picture, video ), what device specs (Brand, Model), how often these 2 exchange messages, etc etc etc.
Can you explain why you think these messages will involve google the all if they’re sent and received from and by people on AT&T, Verizon, or T-Mobile? Do you think google gets your SMS stuff now?
 
It’s not a standard, it’s a protocol Google advocates, why would you expect Apple to help with making its competitor’s technology a standard? Apple has its own technology that it wants to make an industry standard, Google doesn’t help with any of those, either.
Google (and others) advocate for this protocol but it's not a Google protocol.
 
I doubt anybody under the age of 65 uses SMS anymore anyway. When I do, it's only to reply to somebody with an Android phone over the age of 65 who doesn't have Signal. Are there many situations where SMS is still used? companies use it still to contact you? Banks, airlines etc. I guess.
 
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