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I haven’t seen any confirmation that 256Gb will be the new base (it was only a supposition from MR staff). Apple likely would have bumped the base storage anyway to stay competitive. Just like they did when they removed the 64Gb iPhones without a price bump.

Jokes on you though, I’m a libertarian. I don’t care who is in office… I only care about who is screwing with my wallet.
Since everything is speculatiuon at this point, then who is messing with your wallet?
 
The weight discussion is absolutely pointless. Some folks prefer the comfort of lighter devices, others associate a higher weight with a more „premium“ feeling. (Same thing with mechanical watches, btw.) There is no „right or wrong“ here.

and it gets lighter anyway: if the phone doesn't lose weight, your pocket will for sure. does it really matter if you carry a lighter phone or less money around ? 😂
 
The switch to aluminum and the rumors of vapor chamber cooling all point to a 17 pro design that has been optimized for cooling performance, which I am very excited for!

Better cooling means higher sustained performance, faster charging, more comfortable feel in hand, all while reducing heat damage to the battery! This iPhone should have a very very long service life.

That being said, I do worry that moving from a "glass sandwich" design back to a unibody chassis will mean that all repairs start by removing the display. Seems like two steps forward, one step back for those of us who care about right-to-repair.
 
Aluminum is lighter at the same volume, sure, but it's also much less strong, so you need a larger volume to attain the same strength. I have a Ti spork at my desk that is incredibly strong and light, because Ti can be made extremely thin while still resisting bending, denting, and other damage better than an equivalent volume of Al.
 
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An alleged iPhone 17 Pro production leak may provide a first look at the device's milled all-aluminum chassis, which this year includes the camera bump – in contrast to last year's iPhone 16 Pro model that features a glass camera module attached to an all-glass back panel.

iPhone-17-Pro-3_4ths-Perspective-Aluminum-Camera-Module-1.jpg

Originally shared by leaker Majin Bu, the image below could be of a moulding, but it still lines up with rumors that Apple has done away with the previous models' glass sandwich and titanium frame in favor of a more encapsulating aluminum chassis that has a rear cutout to house a glass section around the Apple logo for wireless charging.

The iPhone 17 Pro models adopt an oversized rectangular camera module that spans the width of the case. Reports suggest it will be the same color as the iPhone itself, rather than being part of a two-tone design.

The iPhone 17 Pro models will be the first high-end iPhones with aluminum frames since Apple split the lineup into Pro and non-Pro tiers. In recent years, aluminum has been reserved for lower-end models like the iPhone SE and iPhone 16. High-end models used stainless steel until the iPhone 15 Pro, which switched to titanium – a change Apple touted as a major upgrade.

iphone-17-pro-chassis-bu.jpg

Aluminum is roughly 40% lighter than titanium at similar volumes, so we could see the iPhone 17 Pro models carrying less weight. Aluminum is also a far better thermal conductor than titanium, so heat generated by the A19 Pro chip and battery may dissipate faster. Apple is also rumored to be using a new internal design that incorporates a vapor chamber heatsink to improve thermal performance.

While titanium generally offers a denser, more premium feel with subtle reflectivity, Apple's use of aluminum should allow for richer color options. This year, Black, White, and Gray are said to be accompanied by new Dark Blue and Orange colors.
We'll know the official look soon – Apple is expected to unveil the iPhone 17 lineup next month, with September 9 rumored as a potential iPhone event date. If that timing is accurate, then the most likely date for Apple to announce the event is Tuesday, August 26, since the company typically provides two weeks' notice.

Update: This article originally credited a Korean blog for the image. Apologies: the error has now been corrected.

Article Link: Alleged iPhone 17 Pro Chassis Offers First Look at All-Aluminum Body
Apple removes a feature
IFans 😡🤬
Apple brings it back and charges more for it
IFans ☺️🙏👏🥳

Never gets old 😂
 
Not a fan of the switch back to aluminum. I feel like this is more of a cost cutting measure than anything else.
One thing I have not seen mentioned, titanium is more durable and doesn't scratch as easily:

Mohs hardness rating: Aluminum vs. Titanium
  • Titanium is harder than aluminum on the Mohs scale (1-10).
  • Titanium has a Mohs hardness of 6.
  • Aluminum has a Mohs hardness of 2.5-3.


  • A human fingernail has a Mohs hardness of approximately 2.5.
  • Knife: The tip of a knife has a hardness of about 5.5
 
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An alleged iPhone 17 Pro production leak may provide a first look at the device's milled all-aluminum chassis, which this year includes the camera bump – in contrast to last year's iPhone 16 Pro model that features a glass camera module attached to an all-glass back panel.

iPhone-17-Pro-3_4ths-Perspective-Aluminum-Camera-Module-1.jpg

Originally shared by leaker Majin Bu, the image below could be of a moulding, but it still lines up with rumors that Apple has done away with the previous models' glass sandwich and titanium frame in favor of a more encapsulating aluminum chassis that has a rear cutout to house a glass section around the Apple logo for wireless charging.

The iPhone 17 Pro models adopt an oversized rectangular camera module that spans the width of the case. Reports suggest it will be the same color as the iPhone itself, rather than being part of a two-tone design.

The iPhone 17 Pro models will be the first high-end iPhones with aluminum frames since Apple split the lineup into Pro and non-Pro tiers. In recent years, aluminum has been reserved for lower-end models like the iPhone SE and iPhone 16. High-end models used stainless steel until the iPhone 15 Pro, which switched to titanium – a change Apple touted as a major upgrade.

iphone-17-pro-chassis-bu.jpg

Aluminum is roughly 40% lighter than titanium at similar volumes, so we could see the iPhone 17 Pro models carrying less weight. Aluminum is also a far better thermal conductor than titanium, so heat generated by the A19 Pro chip and battery may dissipate faster. Apple is also rumored to be using a new internal design that incorporates a vapor chamber heatsink to improve thermal performance.

While titanium generally offers a denser, more premium feel with subtle reflectivity, Apple's use of aluminum should allow for richer color options. This year, Black, White, and Gray are said to be accompanied by new Dark Blue and Orange colors.
We'll know the official look soon – Apple is expected to unveil the iPhone 17 lineup next month, with September 9 rumored as a potential iPhone event date. If that timing is accurate, then the most likely date for Apple to announce the event is Tuesday, August 26, since the company typically provides two weeks' notice.

Update: This article originally credited a Korean blog for the image. Apologies: the error has now been corrected.

Article Link: Alleged iPhone 17 Pro Chassis Offers First Look at All-Aluminum Body
Great looking forward to my $1049.00, premium iPhone 17 Pro being made from recycled soda cans. Would hate to see what it looks like if you accidentally drop it.
 
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“I am carrying something that weighs 4 ounces”
“I am carrying something that weighs 7 ounces”
I am really just not seeing a significant difference

This might be the first time in my life I’ve ever been referred to as a gym bro. I can assure you I am not. But I have never had any difficulty using any iPhone I’ve ever had one-handed, even the 14 Pro Max which I believe is officially the heaviest the iPhone ever got. It’s very much the contrary, using the iPhone one-handed is actually something I do quite often.
Unless you have really big hands, I have no idea how you use the iPhone 14 PM with one hand comfortably.

I have average sized adult male hands. I find my 16 PM way too big to use with one hand. Hence I always use it with two. And even with two it's way too tall for my liking. I'll be moving onto the 17 Pro next month and then the even shorter folding iPhone next year.

I can tell a huge difference from 20 grams alone. When I picked up the 15 PM and then the 15 Plus the difference was obvious and noticeable. A lighter phone is easier to use in-hand and nicer in-pocket. Whether that weight difference matters to you or anyone else is entirely subjective.
 
Lots of comments indicate people think aluminum was the default material before the switch to titanium. It was not. The iPhone (Pro model) was made of beautiful stainless steel since the iPhone X. This was a much more premium feel and durability over the previous aluminum frames we were coming from.

While I miss the shine of the stainless steel, the titanium provides far superior durability whenever I drop my phone. I don’t use a case, and drops happen frequently. The stainless steel would end up with gouges or sharp edges in the corners that I would sometimes have to file down a bit. With the titanium frame, nothing happens! I will not be upgrading this year. Will keep using both my blue iPhone 15 Pro Max and my black 16 Pro Max at least until 2nm silicon is out, and then will have to reevaluate.

I believe (like many analysts on the business networks) the switch to aluminum solves a need for more broken phones, after years of stagnant revenue growth amid a lengthening replacement cycle (the phones got too good from a hardware and build quality perspective) and a share price that has underperformed the Nasdaq-100 for the last ~4 years.
 
I dunno how anybody could argue that aluminum is an upgrade over titanium...
It’s a phone, I am not sure how anyone could argue that it is a big deal. But Aluminum will be lighter, dissipate heat better, and be less expensive. It may even be more eco-friendly. I like Ti as much as any long time cyclist would, but on a phone it is pretty irrelevant outside of the coolness factor if one cares.
 
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Aluminum and titanium respond differently to the anodization process. Titanium is less of an electrical conductor than aluminum so it doesn't anodize as easily.

Second is that the oxidation layers created by the anodization process behave differently in aluminum versus titanium. The aluminum oxide layer readily bonds to dyes so it can be used for a wide variety of colors (hence the bright options for the base model iPhones). The oxide layer formed on titanium does not readily accept dyes, but the thickness of the oxide layer refracts light in different ways and can be used to create different colors based on the voltage used. Most of these colors will be relatively muted (think of the gold and blue options of the 16 Pro and 15 Pro).

Below is an example of the colors that could be achieved on titanium depending on the voltage used during anodization. (Note the flash likely makes the colors look brighter)

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Thanks for the detailed explanation!
 
Only Apple can backtrack from premium titanium to mundane cheap aluminum and suffer no pushback from their flock. Knowing the influence they have over buyers, allows them to maximize profits in anyway they wish. It’s good to be Apple.
 
Someone at Apple did the math, they can make the phones cheaper and as fragile as full glass backed models so they still get PAID for all the repairs.
 
“I am carrying something that weighs 4 ounces”
“I am carrying something that weighs 7 ounces”
I am really just not seeing a significant difference

This might be the first time in my life I’ve ever been referred to as a gym bro. I can assure you I am not. But I have never had any difficulty using any iPhone I’ve ever had one-handed, even the 14 Pro Max which I believe is officially the heaviest the iPhone ever got. It’s very much the contrary, using the iPhone one-handed is actually something I do quite often.
Nobody’s saying an iPhone is hard to use because of its weight. But if it’s something you carry all day, every day, making it lighter and less bulky is just common sense, or at least it should be.

Comfort and convenience are about improving the experience for something that’s always with you. Keys for example: they’re small and light for a reason. By your logic, should we all carry 50 of them or make them bigger and heavier, just because we’re not mice?
 
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Repetitive strain injury is exacerbated by the weight of the phone. I have a 15 pro and I still use my iphone 6 which is infinitely more comfortable to use for long periods.
I have to ask, how long are you using your phone for? I will read emails, news etc. If I’m going to work I may be reading news for 30 - 45 mins but that is probably the longest I ever have my phone in my hand.
 
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