I think we can pretty much guarantee that it won't look like those renders - if they reveal it at all. Place your bets...
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Alleged 'Mac Studio' Renders Surface Ahead of Tomorrow's 'Peek Performance' Apple Event
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This will occupy the space that the iMac Pro sat in… a one time configurable high end desk top for folks who don’t want to buy an Intel Mac Pro and can’t wait for a Silicon Mac Pro to be released, as going on Apples track record that could be a long long time away…
if these leaks are true, the mac studio can definitely handle more than a duo m1 max. i can definitely see it having a quad m1 max chip. i bet the interior of that mac studio is mostly heatsink and a fan. judging by the looks and non modular design, i don't see it having any self upgrade options aside from maybe a pcie slot for an m.2 ssd, but considering how much money people are willing to pay for ram/storage upgrades, that might get dropped all together.
if i had to make a guess right now, the mac studio will have a starting price of $4000 ("cheaper than the current mac pro! look at how generous we are!") for a duo m1 max while the quad m1 max will cost 6000-7000
if i had to make a guess right now, the mac studio will have a starting price of $4000 ("cheaper than the current mac pro! look at how generous we are!") for a duo m1 max while the quad m1 max will cost 6000-7000
There were claims prior to this morning stating that Apple was working on a new computer that had the same footprint of a Mac mini, but was two or three times as tall.
That Luke did not provide any information or images of the back of the machine makes me believe that either he is recycling these rumors and taking a stab at what it might look like or he has a source that has corroborated the "it looks like a really tall Mac mini" rumor, but did not have any information on internals (including port configuration).
That Luke did not provide any information or images of the back of the machine makes me believe that either he is recycling these rumors and taking a stab at what it might look like or he has a source that has corroborated the "it looks like a really tall Mac mini" rumor, but did not have any information on internals (including port configuration).
I don't get this.
The current mini enclosure is (as we all know) far larger than required. ie if all you want to do is add more IO, more DRAM, perhaps two M1 Max's (or equivalent) you can easily do so with the current enclosure and have space left over.
So who is this for? Who's thinking "man, I really like the mac mini, but I just wish I could fit a 3.5" SATA hard drive in there, or maybe two physical cards"?
The current mini enclosure is (as we all know) far larger than required. ie if all you want to do is add more IO, more DRAM, perhaps two M1 Max's (or equivalent) you can easily do so with the current enclosure and have space left over.
So who is this for? Who's thinking "man, I really like the mac mini, but I just wish I could fit a 3.5" SATA hard drive in there, or maybe two physical cards"?
Changeable graphics then? I guess no chance to that too
At least I hope for a more juicy GPU than what the MacBook Pro with M1 Max offers.
Seems likely when looking at the size of that thing.
It's a little known fact that the Mini's chips were a rare Intel variant known as B series which were basically low power desktop chips meant for small enclosures. These chips were limited to 65W TDP vs. 95W for the conventional K series desktop chips. The i7-8700B chip in the 2018 in the Mac Mini clocks in at 3.2 GHz for its base speed compared to 3.7 GHz for the comparable i7-8700K, for example.
An M1 Max could likely fit into that thermal envelope, though it can still throttle under heavy workloads as it can in the MPBs (or require a loud fan), but a dual or quad chip version would definitely need more heavy duty cooling especially to maintain peak speed for longer.
We presume it is for "creative professionals" in the video and audio production space.
Why it is so tall is not something we will know until Apple explains it to us.
It might be for thermal reasons. It might be to support one or two small PCIe cards. Or if not off-the-shelf PCIe, maybe Apple is developing a version of MPX for the Mac Studio - MSX? - that will allow specialized audio and video cards.
All will be reveled tomorrow - including whether this thing even exists.
Everyone is focusing one box to rule them all but like you say .. there is no need for a Mac mini to be larger UNLESS there is a need for a bigger heatsink ... and the Dual M1 Max and Quad M1 Max will defently need a much bigger heatsink then what the Mac mini size can have ... so is more then likely that we will see M1, M1 Pro and even M1 Max go into the Mac mini size and the Mac Studio is for Dual M1 Max, Quad M1 Max with much bigger heatsink
Definitely! Let’s all hold out for a perfect sphere. Who cares what it actually does, we just want it to look cool.
So you are saying you don't understand System On a Chip and how it increases speed. User expandable memory NO, but they could and should make storage user expandable.
Not necessarily. The obvious alternative is to have a pool of "secondary DRAM" connected via CXL. Secondary DRAM could be traditional DRAM or something like Optane.
After a lot of back and forth and various alternative coalitions (like Gen Z) this seems to be the universal plan going forward; understood as such by the major vendors, though the message still has to trickle down to the public...
Intel, still in scrambling catch-up mode after the 10nm disaster is kinda half-way ready for this, with CXL support on SPR that doesn't fully handle the memory expansion capabilities (no "official" Type 3 support). But that's an intel issue; it would make perfect sense for Apple to use CXL to solve this problem, a year or three before the server space as a whole moves there.
Do you really Decide which computer you are going to buy by how it looks? What about how it works? I don’t care if it’s round, square, oblong, or flat- as long as it’s fast.
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There could be a thick high wattage one like that for speed freaks, but there better be a small cool battery powered one for normal people. An M1 with ports and storage, to be controlled via a separate laptop using Universal Control.
Other than being obnoxious to open, this was a great little guy. I still have one sitting in my closet that works.
the macbook pro 14/16" has a horizontal fan system that is not optimized for cooling chips but is necessary due to a laptop's flat and thin design. based on benchmarks we've seen, even the 16" macbook pro is not thick enough to fully utilize an m1 max with 32 cores. by having a giant heatsink and a vertical fan, this Mac Studio would be able to not only fully utilize multi m1 max chips, but also be able to keep quiet for most tasks. i also have to believe that a quad m1 max is also an option.
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They should just update the 2013 mac pro design then! it already cools three hot chips exceptionally well.