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I bet the 13" MBP is dropped and not the 17".

I agree. MBA's with the new processors should be beasts in their own right for most tasks and it will be hard to distinguish a MBP from a MBA at 13". Plus, depending on their specs, they may even have better performance for major consumer applications.
 
DOES THAT MAN I'VE BEEN WAITING ON MBP'S 13" FOR MONTHS AND NOW IT ISNT EVEN COMING?!?! FOR **** SAKE IM PISSED!:mad:

Which of the "Pro" features do you think you need? I only ask as I know a lot of people who bought a 13" MBP for Facebook and iPhoto.

The 13" MBA is a more than capable device. I should know, it's my primary machine outside of the office for web design and programming.
 
WWDC logo = Retina displays, redesigned icons and new OS.

WWDC slogan...

"Where great ideas go on to do great things."

^ After reflecting a bit on this... I've come to realize... it's absolutely a nod to the late, great Steve Jobs and continuing his vision for the future of tech.

Which, imo, gives us some real insight into the possibilities of WWDC.

Apple TV?

I think some of those who complained that the phrase wasn't "clever" enough... actually missed the whole "cleverness" part.
 
It seems to me that all those rumors about MBP turning into new style of MBA was leading to a greater separation between the two. The consumer version will now undoubtedly be the MBA and the pro version will just have 2 base computers - a 15" & 17" - if you want a 13" then a MBA could prob handle what you are doing with it.

I would hope there is a price jump and it includes retina display, SSD & 8 gig or more base ram.

This all seems legit because now that I see it in print, this makes exact sense for what apple would be doing - besides, if you are now including SSD with every MBP, then why have multiple versions because the price difference is too expensive for different SSDs. There fore there will be one base 15" & one base 17" - 2 pro versions, pretty beefed up for pros and those who look for a cheaper MBP- the air will be rising somewhat to meet the lower end.
 
Which of the "Pro" features do you think you need? I only ask as I know a lot of people who bought a 13" MBP for Facebook and iPhoto.

The 13" MBA is a more than capable device. I should know, it's my primary machine outside of the office for web design and programming.

I'll second that. Buy a MacBook Air 13" ultimate and it'll be as good as any 13" MBP
 
a retina display would explain the $400 increase of macbook pro's in australia tho ...

currency rates and tax does not matter cuz you just have to compare it to the current price of the mbp in australia and you will notice the big difference. my bet = retina display on 15 mbp only and the 13 mbp will be replaced by the 13 mba

For the mbp and the iMac the price increase could absolutely point to a retina display, sdd, or both.

For the Mac Pro however, a retina display doesn't enter into the equation. Unless of course it is an all in one Mac Pro with a retina display, which would be weird and super unlikely (at least as far as I can see.) I am curious to see how all this plays out.
 
Hmmm.

New Mac Pro's with high end professional GPU options.

Retina Displays.

Even on the low end, ivy bridge brings improved integrated graphics processing.

WWDC Theme = Graphics, Graphics, Graphics?

Hey, a guy can dream can't he? :p

They could finally address the gaming market, put video professionals concerns to rest, and revel in the retinal future of the macs and portables. Certainly all these things are of interest to developers.

Let me be clear, I do not think this is the case, but I would love it to be! :rolleyes:
 
It could be that the 17" has a slightly larger SSD than the 15"- I'm curious to see if that's the case, but I think we can bet the bank on included SSDs for MBP and hopefully of decent size

With all the new MBP is gonna offer, there is no longer need for an entry model...
 
For all the people thinking why have the prices of the MacBook Pros gone up in price, if you look at the Produce Codes they are, MC975X/A and MC976X/A.
Now if you have a look at the codes from the MacBook Pros (Late 2011) they all start with MDxxxxx/A.
So one would assume these new items with a code starting with MC are not Macs or at least one which isn't in the current lineup of Macs since all Mac updates should start with at least MD.
For the prices they are you could be looking at a Television set or even the so called xMac.

It also makes sense not to update all products but the Mac Mini, since from silent updates in the past they have usually got updated in pairs so I wouldn't be surprised if the MacBook Pro and the Mac Mini will be updated at a later date.

EDIT: Also I would make sense if Mountain Lion is going to be realised at a later date to have some Macs released a long side it for a July/August release.
 
That is quiet a price hike from 2500 to 3000 for MBP, if true.

My goodness, I hope that's not the case. That amount doesn't even qualify for the "apple tax" moniker. $3000 for a laptop in 2012? Yikes. It's hard to imagine even Apple would set that price point for a default configuration. With a bunch of add-ons and upgrades it's a different story. From a marketing perspective I think it makes much more sense to keep the price down as low as possible to lure people in, then ream them on the upgrade prices like Apple does now. I'd rather get a third party SSD for 1/3 the price and install myself than have that baked into the default configuration at that price point.
 
Please: Where is the 13" MacBook Pro?

If this leak is true, many of us are screwed. We want the power and flexibility of the MacBook Pro combined with the smaller size and price of the 13" model.

My current MacBook is on its last legs and I am ready to order a new laptop as soon as they are available. Grrr...
 
Like I said yesterday, we may know the models being updated and some of their specs but one thing we don't know is the design, the physical appearance of the device. That is what I find to be driving my curiosity and anxiety for next Monday.
 
For all the people thinking why have the prices of the MacBook Pros gone up in price, if you look at the Produce Codes they are, MC975X/A and MC976X/A.
Now if you have a look at the codes from the MacBook Pros (Late 2011) they all start with MDxxxxx/A.
So one would assume these new items with a code starting with MC are not Macs or at least one which isn't in the current lineup of Macs since all Mac updates should start with at least MD.
For the prices they are you could be looking at a Television set or even the so called xMac.
To more accuratelly, Apple never goes down with the code name for computers WITHIN a line. In that case. If MBP got the MD 3XX code on late 2011, every computer can get any other code name, from MC9xx to MDXXX but NOT THE MACBOOK PRO LINE. Macbook Pro line can get ONLY the code which is further than MD 3XX.

Which means that the machine with MC975X code is a totally new Computer, or, its 15 inch Macbook Air.

Possibly, this will be the biggest surprise in last years. And by all means, no redesign for Macbook Pro lineup ;).
 
You know, the rumor was that the Macbook Air and Pro offerings were going to merge, so maybe the codes for both of them show a complete line of AirPro laptops from 11.6" to 17" - the 11" & 13" with SSDs only due to size constraints, and the 15" & 17" having a combination SSD (for OS and system files) and HDD (for media files).

Purely guessing, no facts to back it up.
 
If this leak is true, many of us are screwed. We want the power and flexibility of the MacBook Pro combined with the smaller size and price of the 13" model.

My current MacBook is on its last legs and I am ready to order a new laptop as soon as they are available. Grrr...

Er, how? The 13 inch Pro is barely different than a BTO 13 inch Air.
 
That is exactly the point.

The problem is when people say TB TC, do they mean TC to external HDD or TC to computer? One could use TB to replace or supplement the GbE connection (essentially tunnelling 10 GbE or Fibre Channel through it) but then why not add one of these two directly (ok, adding 10 GbE to a computer does not come completely free but adding TB to the TC might not be cheaper than adding 10 GbE to both sides, computer + TC).

Hooking the Time Capsule (TC) to a computer is a loopy idea. It is fundamentally flawed. Thunderbolt is not a network in the same sense that Ethernet, Fiber Channel, and/or Infinband is.

It is possible to kludge together but not particular effective. First, same reason can't hook up the TC to a current Mac's USB port and push backups through that wire. The OS inside the TC would have to recognize and support that it is being used both as a "store drive" and as router. Since Apple routers are designed to be "low power" not sure where all internal horsepower comes from to push these simultaneous Gb/s connections in different modes.

Second, the TC stays on all the time. Macs don't have to.


I could perhaps see a Thunderbolt 10 GbE or Fiber Channel adapter being put to use by a substantially upgraded TC box. The sole very high speed connector is conduit to a larger SAN storage network where it could dump a snapshot clone "back-up of the backup". So if the TC drives fail you could do a restore. However, the huge problem there is that doesn't fit with most TC deployments. In most of those cases the TC storage is where on site backups stop. It doesn't matter that much that the TC cannot saturate the link to the SAN. In fact if collecting parallel dumps from several TCs to secondary store probably don't want any one box to saturate the link.


As a "high bandwidth" peer on a high speed network though, I don't see where the TC fits in.

Pretty soon now Apple probably should add 10GbE to the Mac Pro as the default. Intel has newer more reasonably prices 10GbE controllers that fit on the motherboards. However, it isn't "low budget" yet so it will be a long time; if ever it gets rolled out to other Macs. For the TC it is a different story. It doesn't have the internal bandwidth a Mac Pro has. There are two relatively slow HDDs inside. Yeah there is theoretical large total aggregate bandwidth out of the built in GbE switch inside but is really between "from outside" "to outisde" . At TC's price point.... the internal bandwidth is going to substantially smaller.
 
Doubtful that Apple is rolling out a 8 antenna maximum frequency saturation box. (6.9Gb/s) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#Example_configurations )

More likely in the 1-2Gb/s range. At that level USB 3.0 is in the ballpark and more cost effective.

But yeah if Apple gets to the point that "simple" Time Capsule boxes are 6Gbp/s RAID 5 boxes or there are affordable 2TB 6Gb/s SDD drives .... Thunderbolt would have some traction.

Its a start! Who knows how 802.11ac will mature in terms of hardware.
 
If this is real, the implications seem rather obvious:

MBP 15' price increase -> new design, retina display, maybe ssd (but probably not)
MBP 13' and 17' -> updated later in the year
MBAs, iMacs same prices as before -> minor spec bumps
 
Er, how? The 13 inch Pro is barely different than a BTO 13 inch Air.

you can't upgrade the ram on the mba and i'm not willing to go back from 8GB Ram on my 2009! mbp to a 4GB ram mb"a" in 2012 plus the 13inch pro offers more usb etc
 
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