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How many would you like? What I mean is, how many tabs open do you expect in technology of this generation? My MacBook with 4 GB has issues opening more than 9 at a time, and while I can get more, it's not very smooth.

How many tabs should an iPad handle?
For me, two or three would be AWESOME. Certainly no more than five. I don't expect desktop performance from a tablet, at least, not yet. But it reloads when there's just two tabs, which I find kind of ridiculous.
 
Very relevant -- as others have mentioned with Safari/apps crashing, and the system logs show RAM being full as causing the crashes.

So unless Apple really improve how iOS addresses RAM, 1GB isn't enough.

Never had any issues and i'd consider myself a power user, so the average user (at least 85% of the massive iOS user-ship) won't know at all.
 
I was hoping for at least 2GB but, iOS 8 should have better software optimizations. Because A7 devices with iOS 7 safari kept crashing.

Those crashes weren't caused by lack of RAM. More like a rushed move to 64-bit, and insufficient quality control.

2GB would be nice, though, of course. A little more future-proof.

But I guess Apple can't justify the couple of extra bucks it would cost per device. Add that up across all the A8 devices that will be built, and you're talking hundreds of millions of dollars!
 
If you think that's the only benefit of an ARM v8 processor then you really don't know what you're talking about..
And yet you totally missed my point :roll eyes:

I'm pointing out that with the 64bit architecture, its disappointing that apple limiting the ram so much.
 
it doesn't have a swap file, it doesn't have virtual memory.
When memory is low the app is closed/crashes.
If it's the browser you get tab reloading
It was my understanding that the reason they don't enable a swap file is because they don't want to wear out the SSD with lots of writes.

Anyway, even if this is correct, it will probably only be for the the smallest iPhone. The larger models will probably have more RAM to help justify the higher price Apple will be charging for them.
 
Oh good lord, please let this be false. Absurd and sad if true. I don't care technically how much RAM something has, but current iOS devices are already very sketchy, apps are constantly being killed off when switching and Safari can't even hold more than about 3-4 tabs without my iPad Air reloading when switching back and forth. iOS8 and iOS9 are a good bet to make that even worse.
 
I just love how everyone is erupting and making their purchasing decisions over what amounts to a piece of paper with some unverified information on it. :rolleyes:
 
I guess Apple can't justify the couple of extra bucks it would cost per device. Add that up across all the A8 devices that will be built, and you're talking hundreds of millions of dollars!

Yes, that's always Apple's number one priority in building iPhones - build them things as cheap as possible and pump 'em out the door!
 
Eek!

If the rumors are to be believed:

1. No end in sight for safari tab reload pain/app refresh.
2. 38% increase in screen area but only 13% increase in battery.
3. Horrible industrial design.

Hopefully these rumors are all wrong.
 
Never had any issues and i'd consider myself a power user, so the average user (at least 85% of the massive iOS user-ship) won't know at all.

so your own situation is rapresentative of (at least) 85% of iOS users? Way to go:cool:.
I am a power user and i notice it. My girlfriend is a normal user and she gets annoyed by low memory crashes and tab reloading.
My mother is really a basic user and, guess what: she is annoyed as well.
So the average user (at least 85% of the massive iOS user-ship) knows.
A lot of them just think that this is something to be expected, but it's not.
 
Irrelevant but cue people going crazy over it.
The number is irrelevant, the performance yielded by the number is not, and current performance with that same number is not very good. Additionally, each iteration of iOS expands memory needed by the system. So project that out for the 2-3 years most people will have this phone and there's a potentially ugly problem. If they implement split-screen multitasking as has been rumored, or multi-user account switching, that could get even worse.
 
Maybe this is Apple trying to upsell...The 4.7" iPhone will have 1GB of RAM but the 5.5" will have 2GB...

Charge an extra $200 for the 5.5 over the same capacity 4.7 due to RAM and sapphire Glass = PROFIT!!!

GL
 
I traded my iPhone 5s for a Note 3 because of all the memory crashes I received. And I refuse to buy an ipad with only 1 gig. Huge mistake on Apple's part. I'm starting to realize that iOS may be limited to this amount or they don't want app developers to exploit a weakness in idevices with less than 1 gig.
It should cost no more than $2 to $5 for Apple to increase ram from 1 to 2 gig which is peanuts for a better experience. This rumor better not be true.
 
I know people are all criticizing others for the complaining but how could you NOT be disappointed if this is true?! Have you tried reading a web page with gifs? Super slow and it crashes sometimes. Have you tried opening multiple tabs? They all reload when you switch around and lose the place where you were. What about multiple apps open? Sometimes they just crash or they reload too. All this is because 1GB of rams is just insufficient on iOS now. I rather have the extra gigabyte of ram instead of other fancy tech because ram would make the experience on iOS MUCH better. By the way you don't need to "jailbreak" to benefit from extra ram. That is just plain dumb to say at all. Extra RAM should have been a big priority for iPhone 6. The insufficient ram is the main cause of all the crashes on iOS. Very disappointed if this is true.
 
I'm 99.9% certain iOS does not have a swap file or virtual memory (unless you jailbreak and enable it) - there have been plenty of discussions about it and why there isn't one on this very forum ;)

Correct - iOS's virtual memory does not support a backing store.
 
No increase in RAM and no significant improvement in battery life = no sale for me. You can only ride the "but it's thinner!!" horse for so long.
 
And yet you totally missed my point :roll eyes:

I'm pointing out that with the 64bit architecture, its disappointing that apple limiting the ram so much.
Even if they stuck with the custom built ARM v7 (which is a 32 bit instruction set) cores they could have increased the RAM all the way to 3GB.

The problem with Android is that it's a complete memory hog due to some botched design and heavy use of Java in apps, the UI and many other parts of the OS. iOS and apps on it being built in C and Objective C means they use a lot less RAM by default and I don't think adding more RAM will do anything except give app developers the message that they can get sloppy with memory use. It'll also make it less likely that Apple gets really sloppy with RAM usage in future iOS versions considering how many devices they'd have to discontinue support for if they started demanding 2GB or RAM.

Mind you, I don't even own any iOS devices apart from an old 2nd gen iPod Touch that's been collecting dust at the bottom of a cardboard box for the last 4 years, but I still think that on iOS more than 1GB of RAM is just spec fetishism.
 
I prefer the way Samsung works, give people what they want. I don't like Apple's way of giving you what they want.
 
Eek!

If the rumors are to be believed:

1. No end in sight for safari tab reload pain/app refresh.
2. 38% increase in screen area but only 13% increase in battery.
3. Horrible industrial design.

Hopefully these rumors are all wrong.

1. Not an issue experienced here. No tab refresh issues.
2. They are not necessarily directly correlated figures that simple.
3. Opinion.
 
For one reason I will upgrade my iPad air and iPhone 5S to next generation- more RAM if they won't increase especially iPad air, will skip upgrading. 1GB RAM was ok with 32bit OS and iOS6. IOS 7 and iOS 8 have a lot of new features which also consumes more RAM, not even talking about 64bit OS... Knowing Apple they could still announce 6 with 1GB RAM and 6S will come with 2GB RAM..

Same. I like the iPad Air, but the lack of RAM is unsustainable. I can't multitask properly
 
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