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Even if they stuck with the custom built ARM v7 (which is a 32 bit instruction set) cores they could have increased the RAM all the way to 3GB.

The problem with Android is that it's a complete memory hog due to some botched design and heavy use of Java in apps, the UI and many other parts of the OS. iOS and apps on it being built in C and Objective C means they use a lot less RAM by default and I don't think adding more RAM will do anything except give app developers the message that they can get sloppy with memory use. It'll also make it less likely that Apple gets really sloppy with RAM usage in future iOS versions considering how many devices they'd have to discontinue support for if they started demanding 2GB or RAM.

Mind you, I don't even own any iOS devices apart from an old 2nd gen iPod Touch that's been collecting dust at the bottom of a cardboard box for the last 4 years, but I still think that on iOS more than 1GB of RAM is just spec fetishism.

Dalvik is the reason why Android is/was a memory hog. It's not the fact java is used, it's the environment and how they are excuting programs.

ART is going to fix that.
 
I really do hope this not true.:mad:

Pefect iPhone 6 for me is
Apple a8
2gb Ram
2500Mah Battery

What more can we ask for.

A bigger screen is all I want really. Even if they keep the 5S design & features exactly as-is, just give us the rumoured 5.5" and will be happy. Battery improvements more than welcome of course but it's all about more real estate right now. 5S far far far too small...
 
Does more RAM use more power? Maybe they are trying to keep developers focused so they write programs that run on older iOS devices.

More RAM does use more power, it is a factor. But not one worth the headache IMO. Would much rather have a slightly heavier, slightly thicker phone that accommodates more RAM.

From a developer perspective, supporting older devices with minimal RAM is a nightmare. Just finished an iOS7 game and it was an infuriating experience trying to get everything to work without crashing due to memory pressure on iPhone 4 and particularly iPad 3/4. Low memory warnings all over the place, even after I stripped my graphics to the bone. And if you use iAd it gets worse because that requires its own not-insignificant chunk of RAM every time an interstitial is displayed.

Remember that devices introduced today are going to be the older devices a few years from now. which means they are just perpetuating the problem for future generations, for both developers and users.
 
Does Android have iTunes, iMessage, Photostream, Tweetbot, Airplay too?

No amount of specs will change that.
Having used Tweetbot since inception, I have to say that there are now apps on Android that rival it. Fenix and Talon to name a couple.

iTunes is replaceable by Google Play

PhotoStream? Google + and OneDrive do the same thing and they are cross platform. Same with iMessage. There isn't one person I know who doesn't use Facebook messenger or WhatsApp on their iPhone.

Yes. They have AirPlay.
 
Great. I own an iPad Air and the RAM is just insufficient. ... . I often lose progress and need to retype stuff, like for instance I was searching tyres on ebay and set all the parameters for my car .
I switched to safari to look up something. Switched back to ebay and it relaunched the ebay app and I had to do all the search again.

....

If those apps were properly written to iOS standards, you would never have known that any of them had been suspended. A properly coded iOS app will return to the foreground just as it was when it left the foreground.
Don't blame the amount of RAM when the problem is lazy or incompetent developers.
 
This will be sad if true. The iPhone is a powerful computer and is supposed to be the high end price. The power to use the additional RAM is there. The profit margins are huge and so can easily support the tiny additional cost.

Does more RAM use more power? Maybe they are trying to keep developers focused so they write programs that run on older iOS devices.

Those are the only reasons I can think of.

I would really like more RAM in my next iPad, because I use it for web surfing. It can't handle more than two tabs at a time.
I don't have issues with tab reloads on my 5s but iPad is another matter. If the Safari tab refreshes aren't fixed with iOS 8 and the new iPad I doubt I'll upgrade.
 
Do people believe Apple is holding back the RAM size because of the cost ($10.45) or because Apple is a control freak?

It couldn't ever be the result of a carefully calculated engineering decision based on optimizing the entire device - because that is so un-Apple, right?

No. It's built in obsolescence on purpose. Apple has been doing that with their iOS devices. Subtly twisting people's arms to upgrade their iOS devices every year or two. Their computers last four or five years before showing their age. But their iOS devices begin to show their age in two it seems. It starts with little issues with apps and system software updates. Many people want the latest iOS device and will upgrade anyway. But Apple wants to make sure everyone contemplates upgrading their iOS devices sooner to keep that money flowing.
 
I also gave up surfing the web at home with my ipad air, using instead my MacBook Pro retina, exactly due to the 1gb tab reloading problem..
 
Why would the next iPhone have more than 1GB of RAM? Nobody needs this. I don't get why anybody would be expecting Apple to put more memory into a smartphone. iOS is already perfect with 1GB and iOS 8 is even more resource efficient.
You obviously don't know what's going on outside your own clearly limited use of iOS.

Safari reloading tabs is a real issue and is solvable by increasing the RAM.
 
Am I the only one who feels like Steve Jobs has got to be rolling over in his grave due to the lack of innovation on this phone? If everything is true and we aren't missing anything, they should be ashamed.
 
Great. I own an iPad Air and the RAM is just insufficient.
Apps keep reloading while multitasking . I often lose progress and need to retype stuff, like for instance I was searching tyres on ebay and set all the parameters for my car .
I switched to safari to look up something. Switched back to ebay and it relaunched the ebay app and I had to do all the search again.

That's just two (!) apps ....

But I guess its ok for the iSheep. Clearly I am using the device wrong. And 1 GB of RAM is more than enough.
But if apple releases an iphone 6s with 2 GB RAM. Then we will praise them to heaven... The competition will have at least 3GB RAM by the time, but you know... 2GB will be more than enough right? ....
Owns iPad Air... Calls himself an iSheep. :confused::confused::confused:
 
No. It's built in obsolescence on purpose. Apple has been doing that with their iOS devices. Subtly twisting people's arms to upgrade their iOS devices every year or two. Their computers last four or five years before showing their age. But their iOS devices begin to show their age in two it seems. It starts with little issues with apps and system software updates. Many people want the latest iOS device and will upgrade anyway. But Apple wants to make sure everyone contemplates upgrading their iOS devices sooner to keep that money flowing.

If so, then why did the iPhone 5 have 1 GB of RAM two generations ago?
 
This is incredibly disappointing if true. 1GB is simply not enough anymore.

Yikes we have low RAM, a small battery, next you are going to tell me 16GB is still the base model and it'll cost $100 to upgrade to 32GB. I was really looking forward to the new iPhone, but now I'm not sure what the point will be in upgrading.

This is a great quote and exactly what I was gonna say before my Safari reloaded on me.
 
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If those apps were properly written to iOS standards, you would never have known that any of them had been suspended. A properly coded iOS app will return to the foreground just as it was when it left the foreground.
Don't blame the amount of RAM when the problem is lazy or incompetent developers.

Well one of "those apps" is Safari and the developer is ... ouch!

Owns iPad Air... Calls himself an iSheep. :confused::confused::confused:

How am I an iSheep if I am not happy with my iDevice? Also I am not sure if I want to own this iDevice any longer since I have to switch to my Macbook very often because the iPad Air can't handle multitasking. This results in the iPad not being used as often as intended aka waste of money.
Is that how an iSheep thinks?
If you want to help me with my confusion, help me deciding which tablet to get instead.
 
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No. It's built in obsolescence on purpose. Apple has been doing that with their iOS devices. Subtly twisting people's arms to upgrade their iOS devices every year or two.

They did a poor job then since my wife's still extremely happy with her iPhone 4 and refused to upgrade.
 
Steve Jobs' absence is beginning to show.
Come on, if anything, this is the very shadow of Jobs clutching the company and refusing to let go. Jobs was the guy who championed thinness over all else, battery life (iPhone) and performance (original MacBook air) be damned. The guy who wanted the infamous iMac "hockey puck" mouse over the objections of his own design team. And every iPhone (most under Jobs' watch) has had minimal RAM specs, usually works well at release but has serious issues 1-2 OS releases down the road.
 
So that Apple has a reason to force you to upgrade when iOS XI (read iOS 11) slows to a crawl... Just like how it started when iPhone 4 with a puny half gig RAM slows to a crawl on iOS 7...

The iphone 4 was 3 years old by the time iOS 7 was released. Try updating your 3 year old android phone. I swear Apple users are so spoiled...
 
Ughh after the usb 3.0(1) news I was looking forward to the next iPhone, but if it does ship with 1GB of ram I will be checking out the new motorola/samsung options that are announced that same week.
 
I see nothing wrong with my iphone closing every app and reopening it every time I switch between them. Kudos apple for choosing longer battery life and cost savings that doesn't get passed on to the consumer, better for the stock price.
 
Come on, if anything, this is the very shadow of Jobs clutching the company and refusing to let go. Jobs was the guy who championed thinness over all else, battery life (iPhone) and performance (original MacBook air) be damned. The guy who wanted the infamous iMac "hockey puck" mouse over the objections of his own design team. And every iPhone (most under Jobs' watch) has had minimal RAM specs, usually works well at release but has serious issues 1-2 OS releases down the road.

The guy was a marketing genius. That makes users buy a new one if not every year, then every another year.
 
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