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If I took DVD's and copied movies, then sold those movies for less than each DVD cost, I'd still be considered in violation of a copyright. Why? Because I am undercutting the cost of the DVD, and now the manufacturer (creator) of the DVD doesn't get paid.

If you can not profit from content you get for free while charging $300 for people to sit and watch it, you have no business orchestrating this anyway.

From the altconf website: "Hero ticket holders get guaranteed entry to speaker sessions, but not the WWDC viewing theatre."

They aren't selling $300 tickets to watch WWDC on a projector, the $300 is to get seats to listen to their own speakers.
 
It seems that AltConf does not exist just to charge money for a spot in from of a live stream. They do have a conference with speakers, shame on Apple.

AltConf support Apple and Apple give them the finger for not having luck and/or money to attend the real WWDC 5000 seats for the whole world.
 
Why? If the stream is public available for free, why should they get to decide if there is 1 or 300 people watching the screen.

Because Apple has the copyright to the stream. If they have the copyright, they decide. It is not "public available", it is "legally available without payment for anyone who agrees to Apple's terms and conditions".
 
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Why? If the stream is public available for free, why should they get to decide if there is 1 or 300 people watching the screen.

I'll show you the screen displayed at the beginning and end of every single Apple event ever.

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Note the specifications against rebroadcasting and any use except "personal, non-commercial use."
 
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I gave AltConf a try a few years ago. The crowd was shady and full of the wrong types of freaks and geeks. While I saw some very good developers at AltConf, it had that ner-do-well element that you see at Science Fiction Fandom conventions that made it unprofessional and anarchist.
 
I'll show you the screen displayed at the beginning and end of every single Apple event ever.

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Note the specifications against rebroadcasting and any use except "personal, non-commercial use."

I've seen so many of these warnings that I don't even notice that I've seen them any more. I was going to post asking what the problem was, when all of the attendees could have legally streamed it to their own device - bandwidth permitting, which would be a problem with 300 people using the same wifi, so sharing it on a big screen seems like a great idea, cutting down bandwidth use and improving quality for everyone, and making Apple look better.

Having actually read it, perhaps for the first time, I understand, though I'm still not quite sure how it hurts Apple. Thanks for the post.

Now, I really should get around to reading some of the myriad terms and conditions I've agreed to...
 
I'll show you the screen displayed at the beginning and end of every single Apple event ever.

TRGmWKg.png


Note the specifications against rebroadcasting and any use except "personal, non-commercial use."

Doesn't matter what is says, the only thing what counts is the law. Just because it says something, doesn't mean it it enforceable. Is it unlawful?
 
Well know that Apple is letting AltConf broadcast the Keynote as well as the State of the Union from WWDC do all of you who were so sure you knew what was going still feel you know better than Apple?

It seems that no one even bothered to check that, yes, of course AltConf told apple what they were doing well in advance. That the $300 donations (not required, AltConf is free) *specifically* stated they were not applicable to guarantee you a seat for for *any* Apple broadcast, just the local talks, presented in different rooms?
 
Doesn't matter what is says, the only thing what counts is the law. Just because it says something, doesn't mean it it enforceable. Is it unlawful?

Apple owns the rights to all its copyrighted content, including every Apple Special Event, so yes, copyright law is enforceable and proceeding without permission would have been unlawful.
 
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I think Apple came to the conclusion most of us did: it's fully within their rights to have a say in the way their content is presented... however, there are plenty of things that are legal, but dickish. Whatever the copyright law, sometimes it just comes down to what makes the most sense. They probably hashed out the money thing and after that, were able to see the community argument.

Ultimately it's more counter productive than anything to get in the way of fans fanboying out about your products.
 
The sessions themselves are subject to non-disclosure agreements. They're not supposed to be available to the public.

Apple can control access because they won't sell you a WWDC ticket unless you have a developer account, and have agreed to the NDA. Access to the session videos is through the WWDC app which requires your developer account login.

Apple can't control who sees the video at AltConf, so I'm not surprised they finally issued a cease and desist.

I think that's the bigger issue here.
 
The sessions themselves are subject to non-disclosure agreements. They're not supposed to be available to the public.

Apple can control access because they won't sell you a WWDC ticket unless you have a developer account, and have agreed to the NDA. Access to the session videos is through the WWDC app which requires your developer account login.

Apple can't control who sees the video at AltConf, so I'm not surprised they finally issued a cease and desist.

I think that's the bigger issue here.
They already reversed their position.
 
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