Many thanks! I guess I’ll be waiting for a while then, because I won’t install iPadOS 18 early.
By the way, I like your new profile picture.
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By the way, I like your new profile picture.
With so much uncertainty about fees, I'm not surprised. I think once Apple and the EU have reached an understanding, depending on the outcome off course, we will see many more apps on alt-stores.
The EU is taking the hardware and software as a package, because that’s how the devices are sold. Your argument was that developing the software side is so difficult that it requires an ongoing fee beyond the fixed price already paid for the package. I disputed that argument.
Apple will eventually have to actually obey the laws of countries where they want to sell phones. Laws to protect consumers from monopolies in this case.
This BS of forcing free apps to pay will end, sooner or later. It's obviously againt EU laws and Apple knows it, just wanted to take time.
At least, if any of you thought it was about safety, now we know it was 100% about money, since they allowed "unsafe" apps but still want the money.
This BS of forcing free apps to pay will end, sooner or later. It's obviously againt EU laws and Apple knows it, just wanted to take time.
At least, if any of you thought it was about safety, now we know it was 100% about money, since they allowed "unsafe" apps but still want the money.
I think two more difficulties for other (much needed) alternative OS to emerge and succeed are: 1) the infrastructure, such as data centers, servers, online integrated services (the digital ecosystem), and 2) being able to attract enough developers to release software for your platform. And I think this second issue is difficult to solve when your two competitors have almost the 100% of the app catalog each. There will always be more apps on each of the duopoly app stores.
when someone's phone gets compromised they will blame Apple and not take responsibility for their actions on installing the app store and the app that compromised their phone, if that happens Apple should be able to take them to court.
Thank you Pal (see what I did there?)
Did you try it on iPasOS 17.6 or the iPadOS 18 beta?
This is exactly what I was thinking. Dude is so far up his own a&& that he is spending extra capital just to spite Apple. He's actively taking measures to put leaks in the ship to spite the captain of a different ship.
The second point for sure. I don’t see the first one as a critical problem, as it’s fine to leave online services to third parties (people like me actually prefer that), and the alternative app stores show that providing an app store is not difficult.
Wait until they find out companies pay thousands, if not 10s of thousands, yearly to MS for licensing.
It never even started. There is no charge for free apps.
If you ask Apple, there will be fees for the store and separate fees for apps. But the "negotiations" are not over yet, therefore it would be not very prudent financially to choose an alt-store right now for distribution on iOS. I think most developers who consider it, and there are likely not that many anyway, will likely still wait a bit longer before committing.
Because Android and iOS devices dominate the market. You can’t separate the OS question from the devices that are being sold. And one reason to designate OSs specifically as gatekeepers is that on the Android side the entity that controls the OS is different from the entities that make and sell the devices.
Yes, you can. That's what the EU is doing. The "gatekeeper" stuff is entirely oriented around software. Hardware isn't a service.
"The EU has designated six companies as gatekeepers, which it defines as large digital platforms providing “core” services like app stores, search engines, and web browsers. The DMA's restrictions apply to specific services within these companies: Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, ByteDance, Meta, and Microsoft."
Apple should also consider charging. It's better to pay directly for the OS than paying in a convoluted way with commissions on app transactions. It only distorts the market for apps and services and creates all kinds of inequalities.
I would pay if Apple offered longer security support for my 2017 iMac, which is stuck on Ventura for arbitrary commercial reasons.
How should I know? My point is, that it can happen very quickly and will be out of the control of the alt-store operator.
How can you say that is convoluted when it's been the standard practice for decades? Software sold in brick/mortar retail was always subject to commission.
I just bought a license yesterday. It felt like I was scammed since there is nothing interesting to found there AT ALL. I apparently subscribed for a yearly subscription without any option to cancel it - it gives me an error.
It just sucks in this current state, just wasting time.
It just sucks in this current state, just wasting time.
It's not comparable. A one time commission in brick and mortar stores is different from earning a hefty fee on every transaction AFTER the sale.
Still absolutely preposterous people do not realize Apple is a for profit company.