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I just upgraded my sisters laptop to 11, for free, last week.

Our family laptop that we keep in our kitchen for various things is running windows 10 and is offering 11 for free with a nag screen every week or so. I keep declining.
I have several Windows 7 Product Keys that I would like to use on Virtual Machines… Guess what? They don’t work.
And some that used to work no longer work, Microsoft did something on their end to make them invalid.
And these are legit Product Keys taken from real PCs that are no longer in use.
 
Well, I grant you that, though particularly in the case of iOS, you can’t use the software without the hardware, and vice versa. The argument that Apple couldn’t fully subsidize its OS development with the hardware sales, as they had no trouble to do in the past, and as they still do with the Macs, is still absurd.
When the App Store was first announced Steve Jobs said Apple would run it at break-even. Heck even Phil Schiller said Apple should cut its rate once the App Store hit a billion in annual profit. Of course that was before iPhone sales growth stalled and Apple needed to find another way to grow revenues.

 
Welcome to your security nightmare.

Ps I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that AltStore is owned by Epic Games interests.
It's crazy how many people live and die based on every word Apple's marketing machine churns out.

Don't be like this guy, do your own research, make your own judgements.

The world would be a better place if Apple wasn't anti-competitive.
 
I guess I sort of understand people‘s desire to install from other places, but I really don’t think I would ever deviate from the closed ecosystem. At that point, I might as well get an Android.
 
So if we install this, and do nothing with it, we're making Epic pass along €1.50 a year to Apple?

For now it’s an advertising cost. This does kind of make Apple look bad, that their hated (yes I know I’m ascribing human emotions to a company, but if there was ever a company with the capacity to hate another company, it’s Apple) rival helps pay these poor indie developers the fee Apple is fleecing from them.

But since the entire point of this was to protect Apple’s income, they don’t care who’s paying it. Yes they hate Epic, but they love App Store money more.
 
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Apple created IAP as another way for developers to monetize their apps. Again, if you think developers are worthy of charging for things why not Apple?
I have nothing against IAPs as such, if developers choose freely to use Apple's service. In fact, I'm pretty sure, that most are very happy with the deal they got so far. But it is also my position, that there needs to be competition for this kind of service. Monopolies are just not healthy for the economy, will be abused and lead to less innovation.
 
It never even started. There is no charge for free apps.
"For developers who choose to agree to the new business terms in the EU, membership in the Apple Developer Program includes one million first annual installs per year for free for apps distributed from the App Store and/or alternative marketplaces. Developers who achieve exceptional scale on iOS in the EU will pay a Core Technology Fee of €0.50 for each first annual install over one million in the past 12 months."

For reference, Delta reached 3 million users in 4 days. So we just can't have those free utilities we just can have on computers.
 
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You've stumbled onto the solution: app developers just need to develop their own OS (easy according to you) and then subsidize the cost by selling their own hardware (also easy according to you).
If there was a healthy competition in this space, I think we would need at least four competitors, then I would agree with you. But that is not where we are today. Two OS, both with commercial terms that are indistinguishable from each other. Have you noticed how similar Apple's and Google's terms are for apps that are distributed outside the official app stores? That tells you something about how well competition is working.
 
Still absolutely preposterous Apple feels 'entitled' to a fee for software to run on hardware customers PAY for. Imagine having to pay a royalty to Microsoft for every executable you run or distribute on Windows. It's crazy!
You do. It is called a software license.
 
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I have nothing against IAPs as such, if developers choose freely to use Apple's service. In fact, I'm pretty sure, that most are very happy with the deal they got so far. But it is also my position, that there needs to be competition for this kind of service. Monopolies are just not healthy for the economy, will be abused and lead to less innovation.
How can this be a Monopoly when there are Android and a lot of other vendors’ phones?
Only a minority cries about this imaginary monopoly.
 
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How can this be a Monopoly when there are Android and a lot of other vendors’ phones?
Only a minority cries about this imaginary monopoly.
You have to blind (figuratively) or a stockholder of Apple or Google to not see that both companies absolutely dominate the app ecosystem.
 
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Still absolutely preposterous people do not realize Apple is a for profit company.
We know they are a for profit company. We also know that no one rides for free and these third-party stores are run by grifters.

Apple can pull the rug out of all of them by charging for toolset.
 
You have to blind (figuratively) or a stockholder of Apple or Google to not see that both companies absolutely dominate the app ecosystem.

I'm a stockholder of both companies and I agree with you.

It’s not a monopoly or duopoly. People just claim that.

Really? Care to show me what other mobile OSs are available to consumers in the retail setting?

Apple has a monopoly on app sales within the iDevice ecosystem. I challenge you to tell me how I'm wrong within the confines of my statement, which is one of the arguments that the DOJ is looking into. Don't forgot that Apple is being sued by the US govement for anticompetitve practices.
 
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The alt store hasn't even reached the fee level anyways. It’s all bostering.
You really don't believe it will be a massive hit? I think it will never approach Apple's size, but I believe that the EU is right on this issue, Apple is making up security stuff as they have GREED in mind; small/medium businesses should be protected by these massive corporations. I normally don't care for Epic and what they have done deliberately going against Apple's App Store and developer rules, however someone has to take a stand and stop bullies even if it's a much smaller bully than the original bully - in this case AAPL - Tim's greed job should be coming to an end. And to change topic, I want a CEO who cares about the future not right now how much money he/she can make.
 
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You really don't believe it will be a massive hit? I think it will never approach Apple's size, but I believe that the EU is right on this issue, Apple is making up security stuff as they have GREED in mind; small/medium businesses should be protected by these massive corporations. I normally don't care for Epic and what they have done deliberately going against Apple's App Store and developer rules, however someone has to take a stand and stop bullies even if it's a much smaller bully than the original bully - in this case AAPL - Tim's greed job should be coming to an end. And to change topic, I want a CEO who cares about the future not right now how much money he/she can make.
If Apple didn't create the platform, there would be no apps to sell; these devs may not even be developers. And I don't get the bully angle at all. Apple states up front what is involved in creating and selling apps.

Edit: And no, based on stores do on Android, I think a lot of resources are being wasted for a very small loud minority.
 
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