Amazon Confirms More Alexa-Enabled Speakers Will Eventually Support Apple Music

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacRumors, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. daveporter2005 macrumors newbie


    Sep 16, 2015
    Newcastle upon Tyne
    Still waiting for Apple Music integration here in the UK.
  2. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    When did Apple open up iPod? Porting iTunes to Windows was all about selling more iPods (and more music on iTunes). Apple knew most people weren’t going to buy a Mac just so they could use an iPod or buy music. I’m not arguing that Apple Music should be confined to HomePod. I’m arguing that Siri should be opened up instead of Apple promoting Alexa. Let Sonos natively use Apple Music...with Siri. Oh and make a cheaper HomePod (like they did with iPod nano). How does Siri get better if Apple says go ahead and use our services with other people’s voice assistants? Are they really not opening up Siri because that might mean Spotify would work with Siri? That’s ridiculous.
  3. chublet macrumors member

    Feb 10, 2018
    The headline should be changed too point out that Apple Music is coming to more Alexa devices IN THE US. Doesn't look like the rest of the world is getting it any time soon. Anyone got any idea why it is US only?
  4. Romeo_Nightfall macrumors regular


    Aug 8, 2018
    The sooner You move, the better. Apps are forced to Abos.
    And apple mainly sells no innovative overpriced crap nowadays
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    Because HomePod just starts selling here in Europe. They wanna milk the people first
  5. dwaltwhit macrumors 6502


    Oct 25, 2013
    This will hold me over for now, but I still hope for a ~$100 homepod junior. I don't need something with the quality of the homepod, but want the functionality of one with good quality sound.
  6. LordVic macrumors 601

    Sep 7, 2011
    I don't think this is related to HomePod at all. It's likely more related to their desire to increase revenues in the service side of things despite estimates that physical device volume is predicted to stagnate.

    it's what apple HAS to do to keep revenue growth up given that most of the physical products they're currently selling are in mature markets where large growth is stopping.

    this is a good move
  7. joueboy macrumors 65816

    Jul 3, 2008
    I would love to see an Alexa enabled HomePod, that would be a hard to beat smart speaker on the market. Siri is just horrible in a lot of ways, I cant stand it and I just disabled Hery Siri on my iPhone. My HomePod stays in the bedroom just for my personal use that thing sounds really good, and my Echo Plus 2 (actually sounds pretty good too) stays in the livingroom for everything and controls a couple Hue color light bulbs and general inquiries for the whole family.
  8. oneMadRssn macrumors 601


    Sep 8, 2011
    New England
    More privacy-killing listening and spy devices will supports Apple Music. Yay?
  9. apolloa macrumors G4

    Oct 21, 2008
    Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
    So they talk about other devices, we presume still ONLY in the US seeing as they have failed to mention any other country getting this feature? People will just continue with the competition then..
  10. Diane B macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2010
    Western NC foothills
    I use Siri with Car Play and my 2 Homepods (stereo) and love them—the sound, and they generally do enough for me including some Homekit things, calls, add to lists, weather, podcasts, etc. I just bought an Echo for our BR because of cost and because it can now stream Apple Music. It does 80-90% of what I can do with Apple Music with Homepod but the sound is just adequate—but adequate enough for some music while reading in bed (and Sleep timer) and alarm when needed. It did very easily and quickly open CNN on TuneIn though—which Homepod can’t. Horses for courses (& I did not allow the Echo to have access to contacts, phone number, etc because of the privacy I do have with my Homepods). I don’t consider having Apple Music on the Echoes as admitting Siri is a failure—but it does need expanded and improved.
  11. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Do we know how much Apple makes off Apple Music subscriptions? Is it a money making business?
  12. Diane B macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2010
    Western NC foothills
    Agree—the mics are exceptional and the sound with 2 Homepods is terrific—and I do have concerns about Echo ‘spying’ but it won’t get much in the BR while I read at night LOL.
  13. cliffster82 macrumors 6502

    Sep 27, 2013
    Already bought 3 echo dots because of this. Pretty good stuff for consumers.
  14. FilmIndustryGuy macrumors regular

    May 12, 2015
    Manhattan Beach, CA
    Diane are 2 HomePods worth it if I was to listen at 50% volume max and I was chilling in different parts of the room and not directly in front of HomePods? HomePods would be at desk
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    Also I hope they do listen in on my bedroom activities at night while I bring random women over. I can just see Tim Cook with headphones on, listening in to the crazy things I say during playtime.
  15. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Going by that logic then Apple should be bringing it to Google Home devices too. I am curious though how many people not already in Apple’s ecosystem (or not already Apple Music subscribers) are going to subscribe to Apple Music because it’s now available on non-Apple hardware. Is that a huge demographic? Also why does Apple want its customers using Alexa instead of Siri?
  16. Blakjack macrumors 68000


    Jun 23, 2009
    Just keep hammering those nails in that HomePod coffin.
  17. invisiblefrog macrumors newbie

    Dec 19, 2018
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    I have a Zolo Halo at work and echo dot at home. I can play my playlists to my Zolo at work today. I did leave my echo on when I left for work so my dogs would have some background noise. I wonder if that is how my playlists are working on my Halo.
  18. lunarworks macrumors 65816

    Jun 17, 2003
    Toronto, Canada
    Does Apple Music on Android use Siri?
  19. LordVic macrumors 601

    Sep 7, 2011
    It would be a great move for Apple to open up more of their services cross platform. but there's the trade off apple would have to consider, that if certain services are usable on Android for example, why spend the money on an iPhone?

    it's a bit of balancing act. you want enough of your services available to other users. it acts as a sales method for your own devices, but also lets you grow your service business outside of your own "walled garden". But at the same time, if you tear down too many of those walls, why bother buying an Apple device?

    As their device sales slow (already happening), they will need to figure out which services work well being cross platform and which do not.

    Moving Apple music to completely cross platform would be a great service to do so. if a user is on Android for example, having access to Apple music might sell them on Apple Music. But it's very unlikely someone on an Android device is going to switch to an iPhone exclusively to try out and use Apple music.
  20. bartelby macrumors Core


    Jun 16, 2004
    I wonder which will come first: Apple Music on other Amazon devices or Apple Music on any Amazon device outside of the US...
  21. rlhamil macrumors regular


    Feb 6, 2010
    One quirk: before setting that up, I could say "Alexa, play WCBM", and it would play that talk radio station* via TuneIn (I think). After setting that up, it would play "W.C.I.B.M by Amber Ais, from Apple Music."

    I could still say "Alexa, play radio station WCBM", and that worked as desired.

    (I have set Apple Music as default music library, but Amazon Music as default station.)

    For what it's worth, I kind of like the song it was finding by accident, although it's not something I would normally have picked to listen to.

    *Siri is very weak playing real radio stations, aside from NPR and a few others; and an Echo Dot is tolerable for talk radio, even if not nearly as good as a HomePod for music, unless an external speaker is used.
  22. Sakurambo-kun macrumors 6502


    Oct 30, 2015
    Hopefully this will pave the way for Apple Music on Google Home devices too.
  23. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Good question. No idea.
  24. Kaibelf macrumors 68020


    Apr 29, 2009
    Silicon Valley, CA
    Damned if you do and damned if you don't in MR land. They go and give greater access since people were complaining about the price of their own product, and this is the result.
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    Beerstalker macrumors 6502

    Jun 14, 2011
    Peoria, IL
    For all of you saying this means the HomePod is dead, does that mean the iPhone is dead too since they allow Apple Music on Android phones?

    I'm sure this is just Apple treating Apple Music more like an independent company. They want that division to maximize profits, and one way to do that is to get more subscribers. Adding the service to more devices gets them access to more subscribers. A person with and Android phone may have been on the fence about Apple Music because they couldn't use it other than on their phone unless they used bluetooth. Now they are going to be able to use their phone and Echo, and more in the future. This may get them over the fence and convince them to subscribe.

    Or maybe a user has iPhones and iPads, but no HomePods just Echos, so they went with Spotify. Now they may drop Spotify and get Apple Music.

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