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I heard Amazon is banking on this being convenient for people....I think they are banking on people not having brains anymore. I know I personally get an amazon package a few times a week. I wouldn’t feel comfortable letting a stranger have access to my home when I’m not there, reguardless if there is a camera hooked up. Are people becoming so lazy that they don’t use their brains anymore?
It’s also used for allowing guests or friends to get in to your house when you’re not there, or allowing the cleaning person or dog sitter entrance to your house. Not just for delivery people.
 
I have a porch with a second locked door to get into the main house so I like the idea of amazon delivering as I could just give amazon access to the porch. The camera system subscription seems expensive to me.
 
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I have a porch with a second locked door to get into the main house so I like the idea of amazon delivering as I could just give amazon access to the porch. The camera system subscription seems expensive to me.

I would be all over letting them have access to my garage. Or a closed-in porch/sunroom like you're talking about. But inside my house, not so much.
 
It’s also used for allowing guests or friends to get in to your house when you’re not there, or allowing the cleaning person or dog sitter entrance to your house. Not just for delivery people.
Friends and family is fine. But their big push is delivery. I know I have a new UPS guy every week. Not like I know the dude on a personal level.
 
Between Google, Amazon and Apple, which company has a history of leaking sensitive user information?

Hint: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud_leaks_of_celebrity_photos

Not that I would trust any delivery driver with the keys to my house

Even if you were right about Apple leaking user info (and you're not), how many celebrities do you know of that use(d) an Amazon Fire phone? Maybe we'd have stories of them being hacked if anyone actually used them.

Apple is sitting on roughly 1.3 BILLION iPhones sold, and close to 1 BILLION iCloud accounts. It makes sense that occasionally some of those belonging to famous people would be the target of a phishing attack. Meanwhile, the remaining 99.999% of users were unaffected by Apple's "leak".
 
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The in home delivery service gives people piece of mind ?

Firstly I’d be worried about delivery persons, bored with their jobs, going through my wife’s underwear drawer. Secondly, how long until they hack those locks?

it’s a scary world we live in - a world where we exchange common sense for convenience.
 
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Right, which is why these are being announced together. The idea is the camera helps bring with it consumer trust.

If the option was between a TV being delivered inside your house with a camera watching the delivery person that has been verified or leaving it on your porch, I would personally pick the in-home delivery.

If it's a box with a $15 item I'd probably be fine with the item and person staying outside my house.
Porch?

What? I know that in the US things like that happen more frequently, but it is NOT the only logical consequence.

In Germany your parcel will be routed to a post office or the courier's stores and you'll pick it up there.

Or a neighour receives it for you, signed for if included in the shipping option.

Also, the problem really isn't mostly the driver who will lose his or her job for one slight attempt to be smarter than a strategically pointed camera.

The problem is that now a delivery equals an opportunity for a thief to manipulate the door or rob the driver and roam around the house without anyone at home with 100% of the time of engagement spent on looting and leaving.

This will generate headlines like crazy.

What good is it when a masked thief is on my security camera's virtual tap if the police need 5 mins to get there in a city with good policing? (don't even think about small remote villages)

Glassed Silver:ios
 
Why do none of the articles discussing this new service mention Netgear Arlo, which offers free 7-days of storing clips and zone detection? From what I can tell, it sells just about as well as the other Nest competitors, and feature for feature, offers a way better deal.

A huge difference though is that Arlo and similar cams have no wires at all, and run on batteries. For me this is a huge plus as I can place them just about anywhere. The Cloud Cam, while wifi, still needs to be plugged in for power. The Cloud Cam price is attractive compared to true wireless cams, but not so much against wifi cams that need to be plugged in for power.



Mike
 
You should check out the WyzeCam that was just released earlier this week. It has surprisingly comparable features (minus Alexa integration) and it only costs $20! Ordered one just yesterday. No affiliation by the way.
  • 1080p full HD
  • Live streaming
  • Night vision
  • Motion detection alerts
  • Smart sound recognition (for smoke alarms)
  • 14-day free cloud storage!
  • Continuous recording
  • 2-way audio
  • Time lapse recording
This is the story we should be talking about. These really could kill all other smart home cameras in the market right now.

https://www.wyzecam.com/
 
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Tempted to replace the old security DVR we currently have with this or something similar. That thing is a piece of crap, and nobody makes anything better. But what matters is always in the details you don't see in their ad. For one, I need to make sure Amazon's device will actually record the entire duration of a movement activity.
 
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Maybe that‘s just me, but these are exactly the services (Cloud camera) that I wouldn’t trust Amazon with, let alone Google.

I would even feel more comfortable having a Homepod listen in in my living room than Alexa or GA.

And basically giving a key to Amazon Logistics...what could go wrong? Despite the security features...

Or I am just getting old.
These services are a lot more trustworthy than the alternatives: random embedded DVR systems with software made in China® with known backdoors.

I wouldn't give them a key, but that's mostly cause people never take off their frikin shoes when they enter.
 
Does Amazon really want to put packages in your actual home.. I am sorry but that is super invasive. Amazon is going to far these days.
 
I bought Dropcam (now Nest) when it first came out. I bought the "pro" which was advertised at 1080p.

But they did a bait and switch. It was a 1080p camera but on their website the quality of footage being captured was not 1080p. I've actually been unhappy with them after all that and I think I'll be giving this Amazon system a go. It's less expensive and offers more.
 
Wish Amazon would focus on releasing their promised tvOS app instead.
Or you could just buy a FireTV, Roku, etc. it amazing how much better those work with a full featured remote. Way more features available on those versions of the same app (ie. SlingTv) than the AppleTV versions.
 
I love it. Come home to your safely delivered package and your computer and tv stolen. Or your pets got out...or they forgot to lock up.
 
A huge difference though is that Arlo and similar cams have no wires at all, and run on batteries. For me this is a huge plus as I can place them just about anywhere. The Cloud Cam, while wifi, still needs to be plugged in for power. The Cloud Cam price is attractive compared to true wireless cams, but not so much against wifi cams that need to be plugged in for power.



Mike
I wanted to love the Arlo Pro, I really did. I tried it for months. But on batteries, the cameras are trash. The resolution is grainy (I have gigabit FiOS, bandwidth isn't an issue), but the biggest problem when running on battery power is that the cameras aren't always on. They turn on when motion is detected or when you wake it up from the app. This is a no-go for me (but totally understandable, otherwise the batteries would be dead quickly). There's also a significant delay compared to Nest cameras. For all of our cameras inside the house those aren't complete deal breakers, but for outside, there's no comparison. The Nest outdoor cam is way, way better (for our purpose). I had outlets installed outside just to switch from the Arlo Pros to the Nest outdoor cameras.
 
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