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My dad watches one movie everyday on Netflix, and probably six in the whole weekend. My brother uses it everyday too, and my mother is starting to watch TV shows on there too, but not as often.

I am really not worried about the data costs. What worries me is that if I were to build a collection, it would be stuff I only watched once, and then never again.

I'm talking about cellular data. Your family is watching Netflix over your standard internet connection. Either cable modem or DSL or maybe even on wifi, but not over a smart phone data connection. ;)
 
3D TV will never truly penetrate our market due to one thing - not one company has mastered 3D for exceptional(& comfortably) usage.

And, 3D for a freaking phone... it makes absolutely no logistical sense. Just like the Nintendo 3Ds.

There is not a standard for acceptable 3D... then, companies want to peg 3D on a small screen(phone) is preposterous.

(Who has the advil?)
 
Good luck negotiating those data plans for streaming audio device.

If the device has to be cheap enough it won't have huge storage.

Either people will have to pay huge money for 3G to fully take advantage of it - which they wont, since why pay data for only having music hand.

Or Amazon will come up with some sweet deal with the providers. This could change the landscape if they succeed. I bet they will try to do that, so I wish them good luck!
 
iPhone, Google, soon Facebook phone, Amazon phone, Whatever phone !

What does this tell us ?

Technology has evolved so rapidly that soon any manufacturer will be able to make smartphones, just like they do with toasters.
Of course some toasters are better looking than others.
But the cheapest of them all with get your bread toasted !
This is the toaster paradigm applied to smartphones. In only a few years.
 
I think their business is viable because its essentially a monopoly. Wall Street clearly doesn't seem to care if Amazon makes money because who can threaten them? Even the Internet sales tax won't hurt Amazon because they're big enough to absorb it, and in the process it will shut out smaller online retailers that can't afford the regulatory nightmare.

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No, for the longest time iTunes was basically a break even business. It might be somewhat profitable for Apple now with the App Store but even there most of the 30% they collect probably goes to infrastructure/operating costs.

I don't know why this myth is perpetuated, apple makes money from the various "stores" it operates, and there's no indication whatsoever that most of their profits go towards infrastructure.

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I don't care about net profits or losses of amazon.

What I do care about is that they 've brought to market a great front lit eink reader that's saving my eyes from the constant lcd usage. They 've also brought a few tablets on the market that have been in some respects better than apple's, in terms of screen lamination and reduced glare, better wifi reception, and excellent speakers. And they have the best content on the globe, and an excellent cloud service, easily much better than what apple currently has.

At this age of apple's evolution what I see is ever thinning devices with worse thermals and speakers as is the case for the imac, two stale os's, buggy apps (podcasts, maps, etc.) or abandonware apps that never get updated (iwork for os x), lawsuits against competitors, and collusion deals with publishers that hurt me as a consumer, and John Sculley, sorry, Tim Cook patting himself on the back giving speeches at goldman conferences (because of course goldman didn't almost bankrupt the whole world)....oh....and they have an insane amount of money in the bank too.

It's pretty clear to me about which company I am more excited about as a consumer.
 
Apple biased forum has a problem with amazon or anyone else besides apple trying to come out with innovative products. Imagine if some years ago you guys were sony fan boys rocking with their CDs and laughed at apple building an iPod to play digital music. haha
Competition is good and without it you guys would still be playing CDs.
 
3D on a tiny screen. I'm getting cross eyed just thinking about it.

Didn't someone try this before? Oh yes it was Nintendo and I don't think that sold too well so forgive me for being a little sceptical.

Just make a bang tidy looking smartphone with a reasonable price tag and loads of reasonably priced content and it will sell. Not everyone wants to pay big bucks every month on a 2 year contract just get the latest must have phone.

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I did the same and was surprised how light and comfortable in the hand it was. I thought it would be too big but they have a clever design. I'm holding out to see what Apple comes up with later this year but I was very tempted. I think the S4 is going to take away a lot of iPhone sales between now and Sept/Oct.

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Errrrrr hello iTunes??? Doesn't that make money for Apple?

It's simple - it's a race. Get people hooked on your ecosystem and they are likely to remain. People are lazy. It's why most don't change their bank or their home energy supplier. Buy into Amazon's ecosystem and you'll probably keep coming back for the next Kindle, music downloads, video streaming subscription, etc.

Apple did a fantastic job hooking people into their ecosystem (including me) ... But the competition is now Soooo good, it's now loosing customers just as quick (yes ... Including me!)
 
Apple did a fantastic job hooking people into their ecosystem (including me) ... But the competition is now Soooo good, it's now loosing customers just as quick (yes ... Including me!)

Yeah me to. I've joined Rdio and Lovefilm for music and video streaming. It's saving me a fortune.

I've even started buying CDs again coz I'm fed up waiting for Apple to upgrade iTunes to lossless tracks and started buying BluRays again coz they are often cheaper than iTunes and HD files take forever to download.
 
In my opinion, what Apple needs to do is get into the content business. I'm serious! I've seen wholesale prices of cable TV (direct from the satellite network feeds, used to operate a small cable distribution) They are pennies a month.

What apple should do with their $100Bn is BUY a cellular company, outright. Like T-Mobile(or Metro), invest in expanding their cellular infrastructure. Make their Apple TV product that can connect to the Apple Cellular and stream IPTV directly to the TV's. Apple could probably bundle Cellular for your Iphone, ITV, Ipad, and Cellular-enable airport(I know doesn't exist yet) plus TV direct streamed to any I-device for like $100/month, maybe less.

They don't need to "MAKE" money with this.
Apple is its strongest at making profits on hardware manufacturing, I don't think ANYONE else can come close.

Google, Amazon, Etc. are selling their devices at a Loss just to make up the profits on Content. They are subsidizing their cut into apples stronghold.

if apple could get into the content business, they could sell the content at a slight loss, or break even. And undercut Amazon and Google... and use their superior hardware manufacturing profits to subsidize their cut into the content business, which already has razor-thin margins, and strangle their competition.

The real cost of standard TV cable is approximately $7/month per subscriber, add ~$2.00 per "premium" channel package, like HBO

and these were my "small potatoes" prices, I wasn't a bulk customer, apple could probably get ~15% off.

T-Mobile currently charges $70/month for unlimited cellular, But a good part of that is profit. Metro PCS is even less at ~$40 month.

Add this together for ~$75-$100 month for Premium IP "Cable TV" with "on-Demand"(I-Tunes Streaming), I-Tunes Radio Streaming, on any device, I.e. TV & radio on Ipad, Ipod touch, etc... Family Cell-Phone service, and Home internet, there would be enough profit in it for apple to "break" even on the service, and would be a "Steal" for the consumers.

And of course this all "should" work together.

Ipad, Iphone, Ipod touch as remote for the ITV. Play video games on the ITV from your Ipad, Ipod, etc. as a controller... "Take" the video game, or Movie, or tv show with you away from the ITV, on the bus (if you have cellular device)

I message on ITV, Phone Call/Voicemail notification on ITV (and Ipad etc..)
Movie rentals, on all these devices, "move" the rental to any other device, I.e. Watching a movie on my 4g Ipad, while on the train, walk into my house and pick it up on my ITV. etc..

Even expand this to the Mac. Think of the possibilities....

This would of course be contingent on 4g Coverage, and maybe I’m too optimistic on bandwidth on cellular...
 
No one currently at the high echelons at apple has the balls to think this big Steve-less.

When your CEO can't get it together to make a new tower computer available for loyal customers to buy after four years or oversee a solid major app release (imaps), and it's all about making things smaller and/or thinner and adding a better screen to them, it's hardly expected of him to go for a completely new business plan.
 
Hmm .. I thought 3D is dead? Anybody actually uses 3D? Both in cinema, TV, or smartphone?

Anybody ever decide to cancel watching a movie show just because 3D ticket has been sold out and you can only go with 2D?
Kill the 3D buzz already, please? ;)
 
who ever said or wrote that the FB phone was an iPhone killer. Was it just you - just here and now? I don't think I've seen that in print anywhere...

I have, which is why I referenced it. Personally, the idea of a "killer" is silly. Many love the iPhone, many love Android. For me, it's the iPhone. ATT is dropping the HTC FB phone already, after a month.
 
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