Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
How pathetic can people get? What should they have called it then? Amazon Circle?

Game = Games - you know the thing its intended for
Circle = Group - as in a group of people

GameCircle = an app to share your game scores with your group of friends.

Grow the heck up, we could just as easily say that GameCenter was a rip off of GameSpy, or is a rip off of the GameStation shops...it's a really pointless argument to make.

If they had called it something like 'GamingCenter' or 'GameCentral' then yes, I could see your point, but its nothing like it.

Big LOL. Pathetic? Look who's getting worked up over a simple naming convention. ;)

Just wanted to point out the comparisons. Take it as you will, but no need for hostilties.
 
The tone here is humorous.

Where do you think GameCenter comes from? Have a look at Steam, Xbox Live, PSN.
Apple fans thinking that Apple/Steve Jobs pioneered/invented something?

impossibru.png


GameCenter is basically Apple's version of OpenFeint/Gameloft Live. Seriously, nobody remembers OpenFeint? Apple basically saw that it's a good idea and [patented it] did it themselves.

----------

Remember when Amazon just sold stuff online, Google just handled search, Apple and Microsoft handled hardware and OS, and nobody really got into anyone's business (except, of course, MS and Apple)?

Why does everyone and their grandmother feel the need to make a tablet and smartphone? I mean, just making the damn thing doesn't mean it will sell - take a look at those poor Android tablets and how sales of Kindle Fire dropped off a cliff after the initial buzz wore off. It seems like Google, Amazon and Samsung are throwing darts all over the place, hoping something sticks. I'm glad these corporations have so much money to throw around on experiments that will eventually fail.

Isn't it funny how there would be no Kindle Fire or Android if there was no iOS, iPhone and iPad to precede those products? Google and Amazon would never have had the creativity and balls to do what Apple did, yet now they think they can compete simply by making a product that looks and acts similar, but without anything compelling about the rest of their ecosystems?

There's so many things wrong about this post I don't know where to start...
 
Why does Amazon what to be in the phone business?
It's rather simple really, there's money to be made, lots of it.

Amazon has a stellar reputation as a company, with a huge installed base of very loyal customers. It may not be the same cult like experience, but they are very satisfied.

Besides as hard as it may be for the Apple Faithful to believe, the world does not revolve around Apple. :)
 
Yes, but at least Apple didn't name it iOS Live or iOS Network.

If you're making a Games service available for iOS & Kindle devices; you kind of have to include the word "Game" in the title. Unlike the 360 & PS3, iOS & Kindle devices aren't primarily games devices, so the name has to let people know what the service is. So it's just common sense they went with "Game xxxxxxxx".
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspe...le-smartphone-will-disrupt-the-carrier-model/
Amazon's Kindle Smartphone Will Disrupt the Carrier Model


Imagine something like the Galaxy Nexus unlocked and sold "at cost" and can be used with something like T-Mobile Prepaid

$45 a month for 5GB of data, unlimited text and 600 minutes.

right now, T-Mobile Prepaid has

$30 a month for 5GB of data, unlimited text and 100 minutes (so an extra $15 a month for 500 more minutes)


They can also negate the carriers other advantage – distribution. If there’s one thing that Amazon is good at, it’s selling boxes of ‘things’ and getting them to their customers as soon as possible. Their front page is one of the biggest store-fronts in the world.
 
....<.< >.> ...like what?

I don't want to answer another cliche statement which goes something like "there would be no Android if there wasn't iOS" since there is so much proof that Android was being developed independently from iOS.

I also don't want to go into another dispute on how other phones "try to imitate Apple products" because again, that's a load of bullocks.

To sum up, I just don't want to go there. Again. Conversations like this happend a million times. Nothing has changed.
 
If you're making a Games service available for iOS & Kindle devices; you kind of have to include the word "Game" in the title. Unlike the 360 & PS3, iOS & Kindle devices aren't primarily games devices, so the name has to let people know what the service is. So it's just common sense they went with "Game xxxxxxxx".

That's true. Makes sense when you realize the particular eco systems we're dealing with.
 
I don't want to answer another cliche statement which goes something like "there would be no Android if there wasn't iOS" since there is so much proof that Android was being developed independently from iOS.

I also don't want to go into another dispute on how other phones "try to imitate Apple products" because again, that's a load of bullocks.

To sum up, I just don't want to go there. Again. Conversations like this happend a million times. Nothing has changed.

First of all, I dont know about “proof,” but whether or not it was is completely irrelevant. When Apple was able to work and deal with Cingular, they were the first people in the world that were able to make the phone that they wanted to have on the network. So why would an operating system for a phone be in development, if the biggest limiting factor to innovation in the cell phone market at the time was the ability to get the appropriate hardware out on the market? If there isn’t any hardware that doesn’t suck, why bother making the “cutting-edge” software for “cutting-edge” hardware that didn’t exist? But even assuming that android was under development while iOS was under development, it doesn’t excuse their blatant copying the features that iOS has. I’m sure Apple has “been inspired” buy a few things that android has done, but there is no excuse for android copying all kinds of major features of an entire operating system, such as look the and feel of the operating system as a whole, to things as simple as the springboard with the grid/dock view, to the blatant copying of Apple’s Siri with their “Iris” (they just spelled it backwards and made it work like crap, how shameless can they possibly get???) just a few days after Apple comes out with Siri.

I find it a little peculiar that Eric Schmidt was sitting on Apple’s board when Steve unveiled the iPhone in January of 2007, released it a few months later, and then all of a sudden android is released over a year and a half after the unveiling of the iPhone in September 2008... I find it kind of hard to believe that they were putting the “finishing touches” on an operating system that was already in development for over a year and a half. Not to mention that it still works like crap even now. My friend couldn’t even call someone on his android phone the other day, because it wouldn’t let him press the call button it has so many viruses. He had to reboot his phone. Pretty lame, and people are already getting tired of it, which is why iOS is taking share away from android so rapidly.

And then they come out with iPad in 2010, and before you know what they are 100 different tablet devices all over the place scrambling to make up for lost ground. Again. But don’t worry, people aren’t fooled by this nonsense. They recognize the fact that when they walk into there Apple store and buy a new Apple product, it is seamlessly integrated with all of their other Apple devices, and it’s nice.

And wheres their droidcloud... or acloud... im trying to figure a name that they would feel comfortable with copying... how about scloud?? Oh yeah there we go. Over a year after iCloud samsung has the vision of sCloud. Cutting edge.

You see, we don’t have to or want to think about how our products work, we just want them to work. And they do. It’s Apple’s job to figure out how it works, not ours. Android has a different philosophy. Android wants you to figure out which phone out of 100 different phones is the best one for you, which tablet out of 100 different tablets is the best one for you, which Windows platform is the best computer for you, whether you want flash on your device (and half the battery life to go with it) or not, understand what all these things mean, and figure out which group of products works best for you. Less than 5% of the population wants to deal with that nonsense, and therefore android will eventually have less than 5% of the market share. What developer is going to write software for android then?

It’s one thing if you feel like supporting an open operating system over closed operating system, but don’t try to tell us that android is the innovator of everything that is good and useful, when they can’t even copy what Apple does well enough to keep their customers happy, and prevent themselves from losing a bunch of market share when their customers switch to iOS.

By the way, I “wrote” all of this on my Mac and less than five minutes using Siri dictation. How would your fingers feel? Can’t wait until Microsoft comes out with Windows dictation eh?

Welcome to MacRumors.
 
(...) Derp derp uneducated opinion based on false information derp derp (...)
tl;dr

but this
By the way, I “wrote” all of this on my Mac and less than five minutes using Siri dictation. How would your fingers feel? Can’t wait until Microsoft comes out with Windows dictation eh?

Welcome to MacRumors.

Made me lol.

Siri's voice recognition is terrible outside the US. Absolutely awful. It has been criticized a multiple times.

Ever heard about Dragon NaturallySpeaking?

You know, software that allowed you voice dictation a decade before the first iPhone was released?

Or how about Google Voice Input that allowed you to dictate what you want to write years before the iPhone4S?

Welcome to the real world.
 
tl;dr

but this


Made me lol.

Siri's voice recognition is terrible outside the US. Absolutely awful. It has been criticized a multiple times.

Ever heard about Dragon NaturallySpeaking?

You know, software that allowed you voice dictation a decade before the first iPhone was released?

Or how about Google Voice Input that allowed you to dictate what you want to write years before the iPhone4S?

Welcome to the real world.

Ever hear of Nuance? I'm sure you have, it's the company that you intended to refer to who owns Dragon Dictation? I believe Apple actually partnered with them because of the fact that they have the most developed voice recognition technology in the world? So is it wrong to partner with companies or something now? Better off ripping them off and going to court over it right?

And I've actually used dragon dictation on my old Windows computer. It was that particular type of awful you were alluding to earlier. Turns out an 85% accuracy rate (at best) is kind of a pain when you can speak 500 words in a couple minutes.

And if "(...) Derp derp uneducated opinion based on false information derp derp (...)" is the most substantive argument you can bring to the table, then I think we all have a pretty good idea who's the uneducated one here. Go learn something. Or is this too long for you to read too?

Welcome to the real world.
 
E
And if "(...) Derp derp uneducated opinion based on false information derp derp (...)" is the most substantive argument you can bring to the table, then I think we all have a pretty good idea who's the uneducated one here. Go learn something. Or is this too long for you to read too?
Listen lad.

I have literally laughed all the way through your previous comment.

I have encountered a lot of clueless people before, hence I said that I don't want to deal with such nonsense again.

However. If you really want an argument, let me choose a few of your untrue statements, because I don't have time for all of them. Apologies if it's messey, but it's just hard to syphon through a lot of nonsense.

there is no excuse for android copying all kinds of major features of an entire operating system, such as look the and feel of the operating system as a whole, to things as simple as the springboard with the grid/dock view,
This has been proved to be complete nonsense. The grid/dock view has been used before. The beta version of Android already had that structure. There has been a lot of proof that what you and your lot claim is simply untrue. Try again.

to the blatant copying of Apple’s Siri with their “Iris” (they just spelled it backwards and made it work like crap, how shameless can they possibly get???)
This had nothing to do with Google, Android or Samsung. It was simply an app made by some random developer. So again, false information. You do realise that Android had voice input, voice commands, voice search years before iPhone4S? It just wasn't bundled up to form some gimmicky voice assistant.

Not to mention that it [Android] still works like crap even now. My friend couldn’t even call someone on his android phone the other day, because it wouldn’t let him press the call button it has so many viruses. He had to reboot his phone.
It's not Android's fault that he unlocked his phone and installed unauthorised software and got viruses. Besides, it's circumstantial. My sister's iPhone 3G is pretty useless, she can't launch 75% of the apps even after restoring the phone and reinstalling everything.

and people are already getting tired of it, which is why iOS is taking share away from android so rapidly.
This is another lie. Android is dominating and the trend shows that it is getting more popular than iOS. Get your facts straight.

And wheres their droidcloud... or acloud... im trying to figure a name that they would feel comfortable with copying... how about scloud?? Oh yeah there we go. Over a year after iCloud samsung has the vision of sCloud. Cutting edge.
Since you have huge gaps in your knowledge, let me tell you that Android had cloud services years before iCloud. And SCloud is simply Samsung's service that offers storage. So, you're wrong again.
You see, we don’t have to or want to think about how our products work, we just want them to work. And they do. It’s Apple’s job to figure out how it works, not ours. Android has a different philosophy. Android wants you to figure out which phone out of 100 different phones is the best one for you, which tablet out of 100 different tablets is the best one for you, which Windows platform is the best computer for you, whether you want flash on your device (and half the battery life to go with it) or not, understand what all these things mean, and figure out which group of products works best for you.
And that's why they call you iSheep. You don't like choice, just what Apple chooses for you.

Less than 5% of the population wants to deal with that nonsense, and therefore android will eventually have less than 5% of the market share. What developer is going to write software for android then?
Another statistic that you pulled out of your ass. Have a look at real stats.
Be amazed. How wrong you are.

And I've already made fun of your voice dictation remark. Hilarious.

Now, I will not argue with you about the above, because I'm simply stating facts, not made up stories ("Less than 5% of the population wants to deal with that nonsense..."). I've dealt so many times with your kind before, that I don't have energy for this. So don't even bother replying. Just look at the facts and escape from your dream world.

Enjoy the rest of your day.
 
First of all, I dont know about “proof,” but whether or not it was is completely irrelevant. When Apple was able to work and deal with Cingular, they were the first people in the world that were able to make the phone that they wanted to have on the network.

Perhaps Apple was the first phone provider for Cingular to make a phone the way they wanted, but worldwide, GSM makers and users had been free styling it for years.

Cingular also stated that Apple bent over for them. Certainly, later on Apple deferred constantly to AT&T's wishes about using WiFi instead of 3G, so they were hardly working without carrier oversight.

So why would an operating system for a phone be in development, if the biggest limiting factor to innovation in the cell phone market at the time was the ability to get the appropriate hardware out on the market?

There was nothing stopping better hardware except cost. In fact, Apple made a phone that most carriers would've considered limited. It was unusual at the time for a top smartphone to have no GPS, no 3G, no video, no MMS.

... there is no excuse for android copying all kinds of major features of an entire operating system, such as look the and feel of the operating system as a whole, to things as simple as the springboard with the grid/dock view,

App grids and dock predate the iPhone. Heck, they predate GUIs; grids were used on green screen terminals. People have been putting things in boxes since man could think.

to the blatant copying of Apple’s Siri with their “Iris” (they just spelled it backwards and made it work like crap, how shameless can they possibly get???) just a few days after Apple comes out with Siri.

That was an app developer who did that. I think a lot of people instantly had the same idea, since it was so easy to do. For that matter, there've been voice assistant apps on Android since the beginning. My favorite was called "Edwin".

I find it a little peculiar that Eric Schmidt was sitting on Apple’s board when Steve unveiled the iPhone in January of 2007, released it a few months later, and then all of a sudden android is released over a year and a half after the unveiling of the iPhone in September 2008...

Many find it peculiar that Jobs invited Schmidt onto the Apple board during the middle of iPhone development. Was he keeping an eye on Android? Did he figure it would keep Google out of the phone business?
 
wow... really? gamecirlce? they just can't come up with their own ideas

Online score sharing and game socializing has been going on for decades. Setting up such a center is not unusual, and certainly not unique to latecomers like Apple.

So here's the question: you're the CEO of Company X and you need a name for a place / app where gamers will come together. What do you call it?

Obviously, "Game (something)" makes sense. "Game Center" is actually pretty non-innovative. There've been physical Game Centers for a long time.

What other "Game" name would you recommend? "Game Core"? "Game Box"? "Game Place"? "Game Club"? "Game Circle" reminds one of the Round Table.
 
They're launching a service that competes with Apple's second-biggest recent failure? Game Center is the most annoying thing I have ever experienced on iOS!

----------



I've played with Game Center before. It didn't take long for me to decide to kill it with parental controls.

----------



People spam the down-vote too much I guess. It's also annoying when I see a perfectly sensible comment that gets downvoted to the max because people misread it or because fanboys just get mad about Apple criticism.

Talking about their phone project; not their game center. Couldn't care less about that.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.