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Until it becomes apparent otherwise, the discount for Kindle versions of academic texts to date is generally very nominal.

A text of mine is $111 in a hardback book and $89 in a Kindle version. Granted it's slightly larger than 10% discount, but if a student pays $89 for an electronic version that is non-transferrable to be read on a $500 device, versus paying $111 and being able to get at least $60 back reselling the book, I know what I would advise the student to do.

I just looked up a random textbook of mine. New, it sells for $102. On the Kindle, it sells for $43. Does that make your point moot?
 
Do you really think the displays are expensive? I think the Kindle display is equivalent to a 1980's Gameboy screen. Amazon is probably using those displays for profit and battery life. I would love to see a breakdown of raw cost for the new kindle.

Link.

The Kindle 2 costs $185, or more than an iPhone, to make. The screen panel alone costs $60.

Also just read that the Kindle DX supports PDFs; does this mean we'll see the PDF capability pushed out to Kindle 2 (and maybe Kindle 1) owners?

Probably not. But honestly, it's so easy to convert them, either for free through Amazon's e-mail service or using Mac/PC software like Calibre, that it hardly matters.
 
They're dreaming if they think students will buy this. What student is going to pay $500 for the "privilege" of being able to buy books that you can't sell back at the end of the class?

Colleges could easily fold the cost of a Kindle DX into tuition, as some colleges do for the gratis laptops they hand out to their students. Imagine if each student received a Kindle DX their freshman year, and every class had a registered 'stack' of books that they could easily purchase and download through an Amazon portal?

And if the books only cost 25-50% of what they did for physical copies, I don't think there'd be much complaining.
 
Textbook replacement is where it is all at.

they could revolutionize college campuses as well as make the lives of student's easier if all the books could come on this.

I don't deal with theories of education, but I see two preconditions for this to revolutionize college campuses:

1. It's led by publishers and universities in some sort of huge volume licensing that takes place, in a similar manner that some publishing houses have journal packages. Amazon can't do it with the device itself.

2. Start with first graders, and get an entire generation starting to learn with this type of reader. Getting students to change the entire way they interact with books so late in the process just seems to be too large of a structural challenge to overcome.

A decade from now there might be inroads.
 
Um... $500 for "just" a 'newspaper' is a wee bit too much!

And I see its still black! DOes e-ink even come in color??

Why yes, yes it does.

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I like the idea of having easily searchable textbooks that you can save clippings from and annotate.
 
I just looked up a random textbook of mine. New, it sells for $102. On the Kindle, it sells for $43. Does that make your point moot?


I will concede the point as moot if Pearson or Wiley are willing to sell their entire catalog of textbooks as Kindle versions at 50% of the cost of a print version.

Edit: We are also neglecting the entire issue of students buying used textbooks and then reselling used textbooks.
 
If Apple partners up with Pixel Qi...

If Apple partners up with Pixel Qi, it will blow this thing away. I applaud Amazon for pushing ebooks so hard but current readers remain so "1.0".

Now if that rumored iTabled/iPad/iCoffeetableBook could have a screen from Pixel Qi, there are millions to be made. All the benefits of color and e-ink, video, fast refresh rates,... WWDC should be here already!
 
Would love one, but that's ridiculous. Why aren't they going the cell phone route by subsidizing the unit and then charging a monthly fee? Seems to have worked for EVERY CELL PHONE CARRIER OUT THERE.

Oh god please no. I would never have bought one if they did that. The last thing I need is another damn monthly bill.
 
Do you really think the displays are expensive? I think the Kindle display is equivalent to a 1980's Gameboy screen. Amazon is probably using those displays for profit and battery life. I would love to see a breakdown of raw cost for the new kindle.

Read into e-ink displays before making a statement like that. The screens only draw power when changing - not while displaying. A typical e-ink display uses no backlight or frontlight and can be easily viewed from almost any angle and under virtually any lighting condition - A big difference then a "gameboy" screen from the 80's.
 
Not sure of your point. pudmed is free but the articles are not. A kindle that was in color and could store my 2,000 PDF articles on the go would be great. This one is a joke for any scientist. Like you said a laptop and a decent hardrive is still the best way. As far as pubmed, well your university and your grant money pay for the articles- but it is not free.

Full text articles are free and must be made available to the general public if NIH funds the work, but yes, you need paid access in order to get the pdf version. You get essentially the same information, just in a prettier format. Any serious scientist in a decent research lab has access one way or another and can load the pdfs onto a MBA.
 
One other aspect for Amazon is that their primary goal is to create the dominate e-format. The kindle is cool but expensive. It may not be intended for a large market share at all, at least short term. If they release/will release kindle for iPhone and iTablet, for PCs, Macs, textbooks, then they win the format war, and will be a dominant content provider into the future.
 
1) Color e-ink is still in experimental stage of development, there is no eink color screen in production anywhere
2) eINK display is not same thing as 1980's gameboy
3) 500$ for 9.7" screen is actually cheap, there are others that is around 9-10" and sells for 800-1000$
4) Over 70% of Kindle buyers are over the age of 60 (i might have this wrong, i can't remember the numbers but the majority was old people)
5) Some people are not going to always buy books. They may already have the ebook collection, just no device to read it on. Tablets are usually too heavy and don't last long on a charge to be used for reading.
6) Wait a couple of more years, they will continue to get better and cheaper. I'm hoping for 11x8 screen size Kindle for 250$ in a couple of years with color.
7) Somebody mentioned it is easy to convert PDF kindle forgot to mention it doesn't work well with tables and graphics. Having PDF built in Kindle means it should be able to show tables and graphics as it is intended to be shown.
 
I'm a student and would definitely buy one when they come out...

























As long as it comes preinstalled with all the textbooks I would ever need. Ever.
 
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I've been contemplating an irex for quite some time, for all of my PDF journals and articles. The DX clocks in about $200 less, which I'm ok with.
 
Good grief - the pricing is ridiculous. I could buy a poor-quality laptop for that price. I'm sure they're expensive to build, so I suppose it's possible this is just an idea who's time hasn't come yet (like the Newton was); but I suspect these one-function devices will have the tech lifespan of PDAs and have the added drawback of never escaping their niche status.
 
Call me crazy, but I still just prefer an old fashioned book made of paper.... :p
 
Colleges could easily fold the cost of a Kindle DX into tuition, as some colleges do for the gratis laptops they hand out to their students. Imagine if each student received a Kindle DX their freshman year, and every class had a registered 'stack' of books that they could easily purchase and download through an Amazon portal?

And if the books only cost 25-50% of what they did for physical copies, I don't think there'd be much complaining.

Agreed, as I mentioned earlier it has the potential to be great but no color and price of textbooks make this a no go on college campuses.
 
Repeating what I said in another forum, and paraphrasing what SJ said for BR, it's a damn bag of hurt. The Kindle, in any of its variants, is an unremarkable piece of expensive CRAP, despite Amazon's "good" intentions.

Almost 500 dollars for a monochromatic, bulky and extremely limited device? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

And no, comparisons with similar comments for the iPod when it was first launched are not appropriate. The versatility of Apple's media players has been, from day one, WAY higher than that of the Kindle. A nice effort by Amazon, but that's all...no relevant markets are gonna replace their paper matter en masse, and few students will adopt it as the de facto substitute for textbooks.

The Kindle is just a nice device, whose potential will surely be better explored in much better iterations by companies like Apple. The KINDLE IS DEAD.
 
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