There's a bill in the senate right now that would rescind the free access provisions. The scientific press wants us to fund the research and then have to pay to see the results.
The driving force behind this is Senator John Conyers, D-Michigan.
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Amazon Launches Kindle DX eBook Reader with 9.7" Screen
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There's a bill in the senate right now that would rescind the free access provisions. The scientific press wants us to fund the research and then have to pay to see the results.
The driving force behind this is Senator John Conyers, D-Michigan.
LOL you must not be a scientist. I have used pubmed everyday for the last 10 years. In order to have electronic access to all journals on pubmed your school would go broke. Your statement about NIH funds is only partially correct believe me.
I'd say Apple better get something to market damn quickly because I want something like this.
5 years from now, future generations of devices like this will be the only way people read anymore.
5 years from now, future generations of devices like this will be the only way people read anymore.
All of that would be extra services.
From Amazon:
Wireless: 3G wireless lets you download books right from your Kindle DX, anytime, anywhere; no monthly fees, no annual contracts, and no hunting for Wi-Fi hotspots
Connectivity: EVDO modem with fallback to 1xRTT; utilizes Amazon Whispernet to provide U.S wireless coverage via Sprint's 3G high-speed data network (check wireless coverage). See Wireless Terms and Conditions.
What a joke. I'm sorry but this "expensive" wireless book reader is not the wave of the future.
Bring out an iTablet and you have your OS X and all it's bells and whistles, plus your PDFs, DOCs, Safari, etc....
Folks it takes money to publish those articles!!! I edit papers for ASM all the time. You think it is free to run a journal?
$489! , is that a misprint?
If not, this product will have a struggled priced at $489. I feel people will consider cheaper full-featured net-books over this.
If not, this product will have a struggled priced at $489. I feel people will consider cheaper full-featured net-books over this.
Yes that person has no clue. The costs for the Engineering fields, Chemistry, Physics, Applied Mathematics, etc., all charge differently and for each subfield differently. Amazon wants to get this out before it loses all luster when Apple releases a more expensive Tablet but is actually a full blown OS X System.
I'd buy/pre order one in a heartbeat if it was available in Canada, but because it ain't, I'm out. ButI do have a Sony Prs-505 reader with a 6 inch screen and it's quite nice for books and I can download newspapers/magazine (but with a reduced pleasure experience because of the screen size). Reads encrypted lrf (of which I have none), pdf, doc, txt and epub. It works great in direct sunlight, has a long battery life (bout a couple months per charge), and pretty much does what I want.
But if I could buy the Kindle DX, I would. As long as I could subscribe to newspapers and buy books wirelessly (not just wifi, but 3g or whispernet).
If Apple is first to market in Canada with an e-ink reader, I'll buy that. And no, I don't consider reading on the touch/iphone good enough.
Tom
But if I could buy the Kindle DX, I would. As long as I could subscribe to newspapers and buy books wirelessly (not just wifi, but 3g or whispernet).
If Apple is first to market in Canada with an e-ink reader, I'll buy that. And no, I don't consider reading on the touch/iphone good enough.
Tom
e-ink is pretty great, but I honestly don't mind reading on my iPhone.
The kindle is a pretty honest trade-off of a better reading device for a mini-computer phone that's not as pretty a reading device.
If what you want is both in one, you will be disappointed. Or you will have two things taped to each other.
The kindle is a pretty honest trade-off of a better reading device for a mini-computer phone that's not as pretty a reading device.
If what you want is both in one, you will be disappointed. Or you will have two things taped to each other.
It costs me money to purchase journals from ieee.org acm.org, ams.org, asme.org, etc.
I do not want my tax dollars paying their salaries. Those journals for IEEE, American Computing & Machinery, Mathematical Society and American Society of Mechanical Engineers are for those chosen fields whose value to someone outside of those fields is zero.
So you can't buy one if nots made by Apple. If Apple were to release one and it sold 500 000 like the Kindle it would get panned.
It's clear that Amazon, just like Apple doesn't care about market share. It's all about the high profit margins. However it's still funny reading the "it's overpriced" comments from Apple users.
Oh, yes, I'm a scientist in a large university and there's not a journal I don't have access to (at least in my research area).
If NIH funds your work, it must be deposited in pubmed central (or the journal takes care of the process for you). www.pubmed.org home page says it all.
I seriously doubt it'll pass as NIH is funded by taxpayers' money.
Very close, but not that far..
I don't understand all the hostility toward this thing that people have. It's not exactly what I'd want, but it's so close to everything that I'd want out of a dream Apple tablet. I'd be really surprised if Apple didn't come out with something a similar size with iPod touch-like functionality within the year. The buzz that Amazon is getting over this is difficult to ignore, although it's not clear to me how much they're actually making off of it, but just the fact that so many people here are so vocal about how "apple could do it better" is a sign to me that Amazon is on to something.
It's not just that this thing lets you read e-books or textbooks or newspapers. It also does blogs and wikipedia. It's not hard to imagine the Kindle 3 or 4 coming out in the near future with a color multi-touch screen and full web access. What Apple has going for it is the iTunes ecology, their UI genius, and the precedents set by the iPhone and iPod touch. They've almost certainly got something just like this already in the works, but if not, then they need to take this huge hint from Amazon.
I don't understand all the hostility toward this thing that people have. It's not exactly what I'd want, but it's so close to everything that I'd want out of a dream Apple tablet. I'd be really surprised if Apple didn't come out with something a similar size with iPod touch-like functionality within the year. The buzz that Amazon is getting over this is difficult to ignore, although it's not clear to me how much they're actually making off of it, but just the fact that so many people here are so vocal about how "apple could do it better" is a sign to me that Amazon is on to something.
It's not just that this thing lets you read e-books or textbooks or newspapers. It also does blogs and wikipedia. It's not hard to imagine the Kindle 3 or 4 coming out in the near future with a color multi-touch screen and full web access. What Apple has going for it is the iTunes ecology, their UI genius, and the precedents set by the iPhone and iPod touch. They've almost certainly got something just like this already in the works, but if not, then they need to take this huge hint from Amazon.
Apple is not about copying other companies. Imagine if Apple copied Amazon and being relagated to being a me-too company just like Microsoft!
Are they serious?!?! $489 for a 9.7" screen! do you know how many newspapers i can buy for $489?!?! About 2 years worth
Thats longer than this screen would last me anyway!
Thats longer than this screen would last me anyway!
I don't imagine you teach economics. Let's assume the current List price of a hardcopy text is L, and the life-cycle of a text is thus: book gets sold to a student new for 100% L; then when s/he is done it is resold directly to another for 50% L; then when s/he is done the book is burned. That means each student pays net 50% L for each of two uses, while the publisher gets 100% L total for two uses, or 50% L per use. Now suppose with Kindle the publisher only charges 50% L per student. This works out exactly the same for the students as in the hardcopy case, and obtains exactly the same revenue per use for the publisher. However, the publisher has better net profits by not paying expenses for printing and shipping. Now, in reality, text books get more than 2 uses on average, which means the publisher will do even better than in my simplified model. So obviously it is in the publisher's best interest in charging 50%, or even less, of hard text prices for Kindle copies. QED.
Yes because Apple doesn't overprice its hardware. Where are all the people saying that it's the INTEGRATION that Apple charges the premium for. There are plenty of people happy to pay the premium to use integrated experience on overpriced hardware from Apple. There are plenty of people who want that from Amazon as well. Aren't the mac fanboys always saying specs don't matter?
Apple never copies, it just redefines a whole segment of the market with quality even when crappy "predecessors" already exist...
Hows this integrated? Its less integrated than a newspaper, you cant just leave it on the train or chuck it in the bin when you dont want it anymore, you have to carry it around everywhere! Plus it makes you a mugging magnet with its high price. If you put it in your bag, you'll damage the screen, so it has to be carried in your hands, what a neucense.
Plus the newspaper articles you read on it will be in black and white, and they will still have advertising, despite paying for them and paying for the device
I don't find it expensive at all. That's what new technology costs. It's way cheaper than text books. I wouldn't buy one yet, as I think the Apple device will be superior--color, better/faster, better UI, more capable--but it will be every penny of this big Kindle and probably more. And it will sell out in a hurry, economy or no.
While the Kindle has opened the market segment, Apple will own it. Apple will create an iTunes-like store for every participating publication to centrally hawk their wares--books, papers, magazines, applications, etc., either for rent/subscribe or purchase, with some sort of copy protection (yes, it WILL, so don't even start whining about it later).
I just finished my postdoc at harvard (which has the largest electronic scientific library) and I still couldn't gain access to some of the journals I needed). You are right that you must deposit it in pubmed but that does not mean everyone gains access to that journal article. If you are a scientist that has access to all journals please tell me where you work. I wanna sign up.