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Amazon May Launch Smartphone with 3D Capabilities in September

WilliamLondon said:
Yep, you still aren't paying attention to the conversation - ironic considering you've criticised people at least twice in this very thread for the same thing, and me now twice.

If you want to discuss what I said, fine, but you just keep being argumentative and I wonder if you're trying to be obtuse as well as a way to avoid civil discourse. Don't worry you're not alone, there are quite a few on these forums who do whatever they can to avoid actual discussion (on a discussion forum no less!).
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🙄 I think if you read back you will see that the poster I was speaking to before jumped into the middle of "mini discussion" and commented without taking into account all the details. So lets forget that now as its getting a bit old to keep dragging it up.

So no only do you believe Amazon with their un-released and un-annouced phone with potential 3D Capabilities which no Apple iDevice has is copying Apple- You now also accusing me of being a paid shill. 🙄

You couldnt make it up on here sometimes!
 
unibodydesign said:
3D... AGAIN? If Nintendo & every TV company in the business blew it, why do Amazon think they're gonna make it work?

L_O_L

It's like 2009 all over; come one guys, try to diversify; we no more need 3D than we need *ANOTHER* smart phone platform.
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Nintendo blew it? You mean the 3D enabled device that has become their best selling handheld ever?

I've worked on a few 3DS software titles. Our metrics say >75% of players play with 3D switch on. But what do facts know, eh.
 
Dave.UK said:
🙄 I think if you read back you will see that the poster I was speaking to before jumped into the middle of "mini discussion" and commented without taking into account all the details. So lets forget that now as its getting a bit old to keep dragging it up.

So no only do you believe Amazon with their un-released and un-annouced phone with potential 3D Capabilities which no Apple iDevice has is copying Apple- You now also accusing me of being a paid shill. 🙄

You couldnt make it up on here sometimes!
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You believe what you want, your conclusions are yours which you jumped to all on your own, the only other person in the conversation with you it seems. Fine, enjoy. ;-)
 
Dagless said:
Nintendo blew it? You mean the 3D enabled device that has become their best selling handheld ever?
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3DS not their best selling handheld.

It is fourth after:

Nintendo DS - 153M units (The second best selling console of all time behind the PS2 with ~ 155M units)

Gameboy - 120M units

Gameboy Advance - 80M units

Nintendo 3DS - 50M units.

Although the 3DS is still relatively early in the product lifecycle.....
 
SlCKB0Y said:
3DS not their best selling handheld.

It is fourth after:

Nintendo DS - 153M units (The second best selling console of all time behind the PS2 with ~ 155M units)

Gameboy - 120M units

Gameboy Advance - 80M units

Nintendo 3DS - 50M units.

Although the 3DS is still relatively early in the product lifecycle.....
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You seriously did not just compare a product that has been out for 3 years against end-of-life products that have been out for 10 years, because that would be stupid. http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/18/3ds-sales-1-million-ahead-of-ds-record-in-u-s-3639544/, the 3DS is outperforming the DS. In a market where there is competition from smartphones too. How much of a flop is 3D again?
 
Dagless said:
You seriously did not just compare a product that has been out for 3 years against end-of-life products that have been out for 10 years, because that would be stupid.
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That is why I clearly stated "Although the 3DS is still relatively early in the product lifecycle.....". YOU stated it was the best selling handheld of all time WITHOUT clarification. It clearly is NOT the best selling handheld console of all time. Not yet and most likely not ever, given the competition from smartphones and the fact that sales are not likely to see a massive boost from people buying the 3DS to use with flashcarts (i.e. much better anti piracy protection).

http://metro.co.uk/2013/04/18/3ds-sales-1-million-ahead-of-ds-record-in-u-s-3639544/, the 3DS is outperforming the DS. In a market where there is competition from smartphones too. How much of a flop is 3D again?
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Wow. Where did I state it was a flop? I was just correcting your factually incorrect statement. 🙄
 
DuckyDelite said:
Don't care so much about the 3D part, I'm assuming they are thinking more about 3D movies via streaming than just a phone gimmick. With or without 3D, this could be some serious competition for Apple.

I'm using Amazon Instant Prime more and more so buying things in the Amazon ecosystem is appealing. I also tend to only buy Android Apps from the Kindle Store instead of the Play Store. This could mark the first all-inclusive stack to take on Apple: phone, tablet, streaming device, streaming service, and store.

I love my Apple toys, but I don't love the $5.99 rental fees.
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I believe the studios set the fees for movie rentals and not Apple. Part of my reason for thinking this is because whenever I have compared Amazon Prime to Apple for HD rentals, the price is always the same. Granted I have only done this maybe 10 times or so but the last time was back in January so I don't think things have really changed much. I don't like paying that price from EITHER one, and do wish there was a cheaper source for on-demand and instant HD steaming of movies. But Amazon is not cheaper than Apple. Now if you are talking about watching a FREE Amazon Prime movie with your subscription, that is hardly fair since you pay the yearly fee for the Prime membership and you pay Apple nothing. But I am assuming you are doing an apples to apples comparison 😉
 
SlCKB0Y said:
That is why I clearly stated "Although the 3DS is still relatively early in the product lifecycle.....". YOU stated it was the best selling handheld of all time WITHOUT clarification. It clearly is NOT the best selling handheld console of all time. Not yet and most likely not ever, given the competition from smartphones and the fact that sales are not likely to see a massive boost from people buying the 3DS to use with flashcarts (i.e. much better anti piracy protection).
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"Best selling" is how well it sells, not how much it has sold. That would be "lifetime sales".

Wow. Where did I state it was a flop? I was just correcting your factually incorrect statement. 🙄
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Here
3D... AGAIN? If Nintendo & every TV company in the business blew it
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Why did you say Nintendo had blown it?
 
NoHTML5 said:
This is stupid.

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Maybe he was referring to the VirtualBoy? 😀

But do you play your 3DS with 3D mode enabled? I know lots of people with 3DSs, and they all love the games but play them in 2D mode. I tried 3D mode, and it was cool for a little but got boring and made my eyes hurt. It's pointless.
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Yea that's true. I really don't. The only time I'll flip the 3D on is when I know something really cool is coming (an intense battle, Rainbow Road in Mario Kart, etc.)
 
iBlazed said:
Lol oh ok. Because you feel it's a useless gimmick then it must be one. I'll disable it immediately. Thank god for smart people like you.

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If only that made sense to a sober person...
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thats why it was directed at you...
 
TechZeke said:
A smartphone that needs a quad core processor and 4GB of ram to run properly is evidence of bad software design and resource management.
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Based on what level of evidence? Your opinion?
I am not a fan of non-ios peripherals: e.g. phones, tabloids etc, however
do you have 'real proof' that bad software design and resource management is the need for these android to be beefed up and turbo charged! I hear this a lot, but would be interested to see actual high quality, rigorous, and objective evidence.
 
johnnyturbouk said:
Based on what level of evidence? Your opinion?
I am not a fan of non-ios peripherals: e.g. phones, tabloids etc, however
do you have 'real proof' that bad software design and resource management is the need for these android to be beefed up and turbo charged! I hear this a lot, but would be interested to see actual high quality, rigorous, and objective evidence.
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It's all in the experience. If an iPhone with 1GB of RAM feels just as fast in apps as an android behemoth with 4GB of RAM, then clearly either that much RAM is just a Gimmick, it's bad software design, or a combination of both.

I might be switching to a Samsung phone, but I have to say they don't feel any faster than my 5, and my friends with iphone 5S and iPad Air are blazing fast.

I'll be the first to admit it's subjective, but I think most would agree. People often come on here whining about lack of RAM when their phone isn't even slow yet. I suppose I should start complaining lack of support of 32GB of RAM in macbooks, when I don't even pass 12 GB of RAM usage most of time with my current 16GB.
 
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TechZeke said:
People often come on here whining about lack of RAM when their phone isn't even slow yet. I suppose I should start complaining lack of support of 32GB of RAM in macbooks, when I don't even pass 12 GB of RAM usage most of time with my current 16GB.
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you hit the nail on the head!

The reason i made my previous point was that i genuinely would like to see an impartial, comparative test: boot-up, app launch, common tasks being compared. Mos comparisons i have seen have been blatantly flawed or blatantly bias!

For e.g., my iphone feels so much snappier and responsive than my sisters mammoth samsung brick, but i wonder if the samsung bloatware is compounding the issue here.

Secondly, i have a nexus 7, as a travel, everyday tab, (scarred to loose my ipad air, again) and despite its simplicity, c.f. samsung tab, kindle - its actually very good doc reader, and actually works well for movies and games. I wonder if all the added 'crap' some of these manufacturers add, 'weigh' the system down?
 
TechZeke said:
It's all in the experience. If an iPhone with 1GB of RAM feels just as fast in apps as an android behemoth with 4GB of RAM, then clearly either that much RAM is just a Gimmick, it's bad software design, or a combination of both.

I might be switching to a Samsung phone, but I have to say they don't feel any faster than my 5, and my friends with iphone 5S and iPad Air are blazing fast.

I'll be the first to admit it's subjective, but I think most would agree. People often come on here whining about lack of RAM when their phone isn't even slow yet. I suppose I should start complaining lack of support of 32GB of RAM in macbooks, when I don't even pass 12 GB of RAM usage most of time with my current 16GB.
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I think you're missing the fact that every OS is doing different things. Windows and MacOS are doing quite a bit with multitasking and other functions. Android does a quite bit more than iOS too.
 
TechZeke said:
I dont see why this $hiit matters. If Apple can make it run the next ios when less ram, why does it matter?

A smartphone that needs a quad core processor and 4GB of ram to run properly is evidence of bad software design and resource management.
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It matters because I'm tired of apps crashing on my iPad Mini Retina and looking at the logs and seeing low memory messages! But sure, iOS 9 and 10 will run much better on 1GB of ram. Sure! Because iOS 7 on 512MB ram devices is so smooth. It matters when my mom keeps asking me "Why is my iPad still crashing to the Apple logo? I thought that new update was supposed to fix that?" Normal users are effected. I'm not making a guess here, it's a fact. It's in the error logs. End of discussion.
 
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