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Allowing the Kindle app will make it more likely that I'll buy an iPad. My wife already has a Kindle, so there's no way I'd be buying books through the iPad bookstore. There aren't that many applications where the large screen of an iPad makes it preferential to, say, an iPod Touch; but reading electronic books is certainly the most obvious benefit of the larger screen.

I expect Apple will approve it; however I can see why some people here don't believe that to be the case.
 
Allowing the Kindle app will make it more likely that I'll buy an iPad. My wife already has a Kindle, so there's no way I'd be buying books through the iPad bookstore. There aren't that many applications where the large screen of an iPad makes it preferential to, say, an iPod Touch; but reading electronic books is certainly the most obvious benefit of the larger screen.

I expect Apple will approve it; however I can see why some people here don't believe that to be the case.

You and other people like you are precisely the reason Apple will allow this application and others on iPad. The "allowing kindle books on iPad will make it more likely for me to buy an iPad" reason.

Amazon's not in it to sell Kindles, they are in it to sell books. Apple is not in it to sell ebooks, they are in it to sell devices. Both companies should've worked together on this but I can see how Apple doesn't want to rely on Amazon just as they don't want to rely on Adobe for flash.
 
Sounds pretty cool but also just sounds like ibooks. Hopefully someone gets the content presentation right as well as a universal file type.
 
Sounds pretty cool but also just sounds like ibooks. Hopefully someone gets the content presentation right as well as a universal file type.

ePub is the universal file type, the content presentation is not going to be fixed until all ebook readers move toward the color e-ink.

The biggest problem is DRM as usual.
 
Why should Apple allow the Kindle App on the iPhone? They are a competitor. Will the new Kindle store with Apps Allow the Apple ebook reader? Can you purchase music via iTunes on Amazon? The answers are all self evident.

No, they're not. Amazon leads the market and Apple is not even yet a player in the field.

If Apple wants people who read eBooks to accept the iPad, they have to make sure that they can at least read their already purchased library on the device. Or offer them some crossgrades (which certainly is not going to happen).

So the only smart thing for Apple to do is to allow the Kindle app on the iPad.

It will be very hard for Apple to build a book store that can compete with Amazon. This is a different game than selling music files, and it is a game where Apple has zero experience. Amazon is the giant in the book market, and it is a giant customers are extraordinarily happy with, because Amazon is doing so many things right.

Oh. And Amazon is not arrogant. Apple is.
 
Wow I never predicted this from the moment Apple announced the iPad and that iBook's would be USA only.

By the time they get their fingers out and sort out licensing in Europe, Canada, Australia etc... (assuming it takes as long as itunes, or missing movie content) then most of the world who want 'ebook's will be using Kindle or some other application and there will be no need for the iBook store at all.
 
Wow I never predicted this from the moment Apple announced the iPad and that iBook's would be USA only.

By the time they get their fingers out and sort out licensing in Europe, Canada, Australia etc... (assuming it takes as long as itunes, or missing movie content) then most of the world who want 'ebook's will be using Kindle or some other application and there will be no need for the iBook store at all.

Last I checked Kindle was USA only as well. Does the rest of the world have any book reader?
 
I read Kindle books on my iPhone and Macs in Ireland. Not US only (some geo-restrictions on distribution though). I still can't get movies or TV on iTunes here.

Apple will approve this, first because it helps sell iPads (which is what really matters to them), second because they don't want to get caught in the anti-trust legal battle that will follow if they don't. I'm guessing that's part of the reason that iBookstore isn't a built-in on the iPad.
 
I don't think that Amazon would be promting this without having a good Idea it will be accepted. I've bought a Few Kindle books for reading on my Touch so it's nice that UI'll be able to use them on the Pad.
 
No, they're not. Amazon leads the market and Apple is not even yet a player in the field.

If Apple wants people who read eBooks to accept the iPad, they have to make sure that they can at least read their already purchased library on the device. Or offer them some crossgrades (which certainly is not going to happen).

So the only smart thing for Apple to do is to allow the Kindle app on the iPad.

It will be very hard for Apple to build a book store that can compete with Amazon. This is a different game than selling music files, and it is a game where Apple has zero experience. Amazon is the giant in the book market, and it is a giant customers are extraordinarily happy with, because Amazon is doing so many things right.

Oh. And Amazon is not arrogant. Apple is.

Aww. I was so agreeing with you until that last statement. I don't dispute Apple has a arrogant tinge but to suggest Amazon is reader friendly is to ignore the obvious. Arrogance is using your own DRM standard rather than a universal one like Adobe ePub. Arrogance is saying the Kindle is the #1 reader but refusing is issue sales numbers. Even Apple issues sales numbers -- of course they do it to crow about how popular its products really are. No one really knows how many Kindles are in the wild which tells me its less than we think -- probably much less.
 
from an advertising standpoint, its just a free plug for people in the market for a tablet (by comparison, no one wants to see a product excluded). Good move if apple lets it in: let the best store win. If iBook is better, more people will use it, simple as that. I'm sure apple's not making THAT much money off eBooks.
 
Kindle platforms

This is all good and hopefully Apple will allow the functionality as many of us have kindle books on our iPhones and will love to port them over to our iPads.

Got to try the Mac OS reader on my laptop and it was a welcome improvement. Nice to not have to only rely on the iPhone. Really nice.

So on to the iPad. Let us rock. :cool:
 
Because Apple want to sell hardware. I'm not remotely interested in buying the hardware as an eBook reader if they start playing games with other people's content.

you imply some sort of focus on hardware vs. content. if that's what you meant, you are incorrect. the hardware is simply the means of selling more content. so, NO, Apple NOT want to sell hardware, Apple want to sell CONTENT.

How is Apple "playing games with other people's content" by choosing NOT to sell it on their system?!? Is Microsoft "playing games" with Apple's content by not selling iTunes media through Media Player?? :rolleyes:
 
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dzoolander said:
Why should Apple allow the Kindle App on the iPhone? They are a competitor. Will the new Kindle store with Apps Allow the Apple ebook reader? Can you purchase music via iTunes on Amazon? The answers are all self evident.

Because it will sell more iPads.

scoobydoo99 said:
Because Apple want to sell hardware. I'm not remotely interested in buying the hardware as an eBook reader if they start playing games with other people's content.

you imply some sort of focus on hardware vs. content. if that's what you meant, you are incorrect. the hardware is simply the means of selling more content. so, NO, Apple NOT want to sell hardware, Apple want to sell CONTENT.

How is Apple "playing games with other people's content" by choosing NOT to sell it on their system?!? Is Microsoft "playing games" with Apple's content by not selling iTunes media through Media Player?? :rolleyes:

You are wrong. Apple's margins on hardware are far higher than their margins on content.
 
iBooks is not a built-in app. To be sure it's Apple's preferred way for people to read books on it, but there are at least 2 reasons I see for Apple not to block the Kindle and B&N apps.

1. It's one more reason for Kindle and Nook owners to buy an iPad. You can read all your kindle books on it!

2. If it's between selling additional ebooks or selling additional iPads, Apple would most likely prefer to see the latter occur.

I'm one of those who owns a Kindle and am seriously considering an IPad. I find the Kindle's screen too dim in anything but bright light. All the clip on lights I've tried have been unsatisfactory. To those who say the IPad's backlighting is a bug I say it's a feature. It'll mean that I can read in the dark while my wife sleeps. I like a bright screen. With this app I'll be able to work my way down my Kindle e-book backlog on the IPad.
 
you imply some sort of focus on hardware vs. content. if that's what you meant, you are incorrect. the hardware is simply the means of selling more content. so, NO, Apple NOT want to sell hardware, Apple want to sell CONTENT.

How is Apple "playing games with other people's content" by choosing NOT to sell it on their system?!? Is Microsoft "playing games" with Apple's content by not selling iTunes media through Media Player?? :rolleyes:

If Apple was selling content, why would they sell their OS for $29? Apple makes their money on hardware, and creates an environment on that hardware that people like. The environment is the means to the hardware end(if you don't believe it, check Apples balance sheet and see how much money they get from Macs, iPhones & iPods vs iTunes). The whole Kindle/iPad thing seems like a slam dunk. The Kindle is mediocre hardware that Amazon put out to get a foot in the door early on digital distribution so they didn't go down the drain like the record companies(smart move). The iPad looks like it will be very good hardware, but unlike with iTunes & music, Apple is late to the game with books(just like they were with Apple TV & video). Sounds to me like a wonderful partnership, where both parties benefit. I know I would never buy a Kindle with the limited utility & poor design (only 1/3 of the total area for text? This is a READING device, right?), but the iPad both gives a lot more function and a lot better reading interface, and the ability to use the Amazon/Kindle infrastructure makes me more likely to buy it AND buy ebooks from Amazon. In fact in a few years I wouldn't be surprised to see Amazon stop making the Kindle and for Apple to be out of the ebook business. I think we'll see Amazon, B&N and Borders all with apps on the iPad.
 
All those people saying that Apple will never allow this... think about it!

Apple must be desperate for this! All those Kindle owners going "Well, I really like the iPad but I've spent so much money on books for my Kindle that I just can't justify getting an iPad" just had their main obstacle to iPad ownership blown away!

And all those people put off getting an iPad because Amazon's Kindle store has a much better range of books? now that's another reason not to buy an iPad that just went out of the window.

This is a GOOD thing for Apple!
 
Although some of you think Apple should reject this, I think it's in Apple's best interest to allow this app. What are apps about? It's about choosing things you like. If you like one thing over another, say Amazon's app over iBooks, then the user should be able to choose it. Lets not forget that Apple also gets a cut when someone download's any app from the App Store.
 
Apple has rejected apps for duplicating the functionality of the built-in apps. Kindle on iPhone/Touch doesn't overlap anything, but it would overlap iBooks on the iPad.

Right, that was what I thought as well--but, do you think having the Kindle app available will help sell more iPads? I think it might.

If it does, then Apple should allow it. It's all (well, 90%) about the hardware sales.

EDIT: NightFox really said it better than I did two posts above.
 
You and other people like you are precisely the reason Apple will allow this application and others on iPad. The "allowing kindle books on iPad will make it more likely for me to buy an iPad" reason.

Amazon's not in it to sell Kindles, they are in it to sell books. Apple is not in it to sell ebooks, they are in it to sell devices.

+1. I was going to make a similar comment, but I couldn't have said it any better.
 
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