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but according to amazon commercials they already are competing with the kindle..
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but according to amazon commercials they already are competing with the kindle..
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Amazon Set to Step Up as Next iPad Competitor
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ksgant
macrumors 6502a
I don't hold it to read. I lay it down on the bed...like a book...and read it like that. I lay on my stomach also and read it...like i would a book laying on the bed. I can turn on my back and hold it, like a book, and read it like that. No keyboard getting in my way. Positioned any way I want without having to crook my head in any direction or....
...you know what, you know all this. You're just being a troll. Nothing better to do? Seriously? You ask and people answer and you STILL don't "get it" after a year and a half? You're ether being stubborn or you're playing dumb on purpose to elicit responses.
If you go to Apple.com you can see all the things it lets people do. Those are the things people use it for.
I wonder if I could get a $500 laptop with access to the App store, which is ridiculously stable, which I can take on a plane or leave lying around the house for days without having to worry about charging it, which is easy and enjoyable to use, which isn't the size and weight of two bricks, which can be held lying on the couch or in bed, and which does all kinds of things that you would have to be willfully obtuse to ignore.
beep boop I am a rational thinker unable to comprehend that other people's preferences are different than my own, does not compute
People don't get it, it's about the UI not the hardware. Even worse, android is the problem not the solution. If it was the solution wouldn't android tablets be flying off the shelves? There are a couple of wanna be tablets that have great hardware but they still aren't selling in any large quantity. The Amazon stores are great but if the experience is difficult or the battery life sucks then it won't matter.
I totally agree. Let me just say from my non-fanboy experience that Amazon has given me, bar none, the BEST customer experience of any company. They offer free deals to me without my asking; they resolve problems fast; and they have fast and trustworthy delivery.
They have all the elements needed to make a successful tablet, and I would not be surprised if it turns out to be a huge hit. Apple has serious cred all over the world, and I think the iPad will continue to amaze people, but for people looking for a genuine competitor, I would not count Amazon out at all.
ten-oak-druid
macrumors 68000
Well I'm sure it does for some.
But for me the reason the kindle and iphone compliment each other is that I can read in the light with E-ink and in the dark with the iphone. I get both screens. Obviously I prefer the bigger E-ink screen. But when I need to switch to the iphone it isn't bad really. And the Kindle App syncs your last location so you can switch devices and pick up where you left off.
The ipad is great. I would love to own one. But after buying an iphone, the Kindle made more sense. The reason I got it was specifically for reading books. And the Kindle is better in my opinion. I like E-ink. And the price of a Kindle was much better. I just didn't want to dish out money for both an iphone and ipad so close together just for screen size difference.
I use price as an argument because my sole purpose for a tablet was for reading. I do not need to duplicate other features of my iphone. But I think it is silly when people bring up savings in support of Android tablets because the very cheap tablets have been failures. People rejected them. And for the amount of savings on a true ipad competitor you might as well get the ipad. It is the better product in my opinion.
I think people wanting a tablet primarily for viewing movies and pictures will prefer the ipad to Kindle.
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I personally have a kindle 3 and love it! So easy to read for long time on it due to is exceptional eink technology.
I think amazon has a chance, IF THEY PRICE IT CORRECTLY. If they are hovering around the $500 mark like HP, Samsung, RIM, and Motorola they will loose, since the iPad itself is $500.
The kindle 3 took off when it was priced at $139, before that, it had ok success.
I think amazon has a chance, IF THEY PRICE IT CORRECTLY. If they are hovering around the $500 mark like HP, Samsung, RIM, and Motorola they will loose, since the iPad itself is $500.
The kindle 3 took off when it was priced at $139, before that, it had ok success.
jackc
macrumors 65816
The idea of "most" competition turning unhealthy is pretty ridiculous. Competition is the reason all these gadgets are getting better and cheaper as fast as they are.
nwcs
macrumors 68030
If you look only at the gadgets, maybe. If you look at the whole not so much. The ecological problems caused by the manufacture of these gadgets is a real issue. The social problems at the factories with the workers who put these things together is a real issue. Quality control is a real issue. etc.
Westside guy
macrumors 604
The Kindle 3 is the single best-selling item on Amazon.com ever. Yeah, lots of people use it, and love it (including me).
I'm not sure what, exactly, you think your point is. Can an iPhone/iPad/Mac run for a month without being plugged in? I don't think so.
Snowy_River
macrumors 68030
Oh, yes, because no other manufacturer wanted to have a product in the portable music player space, and they all decided to just "let Apple own" that market.
Seriously, if you're going to draw from the iPod example, you must conclude that Apple has already been down this path and has experience with how to handle a fight like this one. Suggesting that this is somehow fundamentally different because other manufacturers will care more about the tablet space is just silly.
Uh, no. I have a plugin on my MBP to prevent Flash from loading unless I specifically want it to. The vast majority of the times that I do want it to is for YouTube videos (which can work without Flash on iOS). It's probably 1% of the time, or less that I end up on a website that is so entrenched in Flash that I have to use it. I'm not a big fan of Flash, and haven't been since long before Steve Jobs open letter regarding it, for all the traditional reasons.
Huh? I'm really not clear on what your complaint is here. These elements behave almost exactly the same way as they do on a desktop system. So, what's the problem with them?
While there have been some very well written critical reviews of the iPad's mobile Safari, it looks like most of the biggest critiques are being addressed in iOS 5. And even then, in side by side comparison with other mobile browsers on other platforms, Safari has typically faired reasonably well. So, if you're going to say that Apple needs a "much better browser", then you're really saying every tablet needs a much better browser. And, ultimately, you may be saying that the web needs to become more mobile centric and less desktop centric.
While a better price for storage ratio might be nice, that's not Apple's model, and their model is one that they've been very successful with. It would take a major turn in the market space to convince them that this model wasn't going to work with the iPad.
To be clear, while I don't necessarily agree with all of Apple's decisions (indeed, some of them truly tick me off), I understand most, if not all of them, from a business standpoint. They are good at what they do, and much of the time that results is great products for us.
Hmm. You start off by asking what people could possibly be doing with their iPads, and you wonder why people react the way they do?
I originally bought an iPad about a year ago for use during meetings of a commission that I serve on. I knew that it would do a good job in that setting, where having a laptop screen between me and applicants was a very undesirable thing, but I honestly didn't know that I would get much other use out of it.
Boy was I wrong. It is more convenient and easier to use for email, web browsing, video watching, etc., than my MBP ever was. The battery life means that I can go for a full day (and sometimes two) without worrying about where power is. Plus, I've found that it has an amazing diversity of capabilities. I keep my books on it and find that it is, again, easier and more convenient than when I kept my books on my MBP. I can take credit card payments with it. I have made beautiful presentations using Keynote. I have written reports that have been almost 100 pages long. Video calling so my parents can see their grandchild on a regular basis is far more convenient.
Simply put, I didn't think that I'd love this thing as much as I ended up loving it. Now my wife jokes that she never sees me without my iPad...
Surely
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Because when you ask a question like that it deserves a sarcastic answer.
If you were to have stated that you don't see how an iPad would be useful for you, that would have been a different story.
Clearly, millions of people have found a way to make an iPad useful in their lives.
Perhaps you should try reading through the thousands of posts in the iPad forum......I'm sure you could pick up an idea here and there about how people are using it. Or watch Apple's iPad commercials....they show dozens of ways that people are using it.
MrSmith
macrumors 68040
Two bricks? Obviously the iPad is your first electronic device and you therefore have no authority to compare anything. Still the nastiness, though...
Because I'm sure Amazon didn't include their legal counsel when implementing their cloud service.
*LTD*
macrumors G4
I'm interested in seeing what Amazon comes up with. If they're lucky they can nail production costs and match the iPad price point.
MrSmith
macrumors 68040
A pleasant reply at last. Thanks.
I still don't see how on a sofa, bed or on a desk a horizontal screen is better than a vertical laptop screen. In what way is it more convenient than a MBP? I have access to as much power as I need - or I'm outside in the fresh air and need a computer as much as I need a blender. Your work place scenario I can understand because I would like to have my teacher textbooks on an iPad instead of paper form. Since I'm not in the US and my texts aren't US publishers that isn't going to happen for a long time. I don't understand what you mean by 'take credit card payments with it'. How does the MBP not do this? The remaining things you mention can be done on a MBP, without having to hold it or support it somehow. You seem to be saying you are surprised you like using it, but not why it is better than the (admittedly more expensive) alternative.
1)$500 for a 16GB "device" that's supposed to play/store music, videos, pictures, and movies stinks. Hate to break that to you.
2)We don't only use it for web and email...a few apps here and there but really, the iPad is a web-surfers machine. Games may exist but rarely are people using it for games. Remember all the buzz years ago about the iPod Touch being the next thing since sliced bread for games?...how'd that turn out?
The iPad 1.0 and 2.0 (price out of the picture) are nice devices...but in reality they are mainly used for surfing the web, email, and maybe some tunes on the mono speaker. When 3.0+ comes out with more software features, more hardware features, and more integration with Apple apps (I can't sync my bleeping pictures on iPad with iPhoto?!?!?!) then I and others will purchase it.
Regardless of how you look at it...the iPad is a SECONDARY device...and starting at $500 is pricey even if it was some killer game system.
Awesome! Other people have different needs. Like traveling. Which I already posted.
Nobody's trying to convince you that an iPad is good for you, especially since you never asked anyone to do that. You expressed skepticism that an iPad would be useful for anyone.
No, you still have to hold or support an MBP. Like with a table or stand. Or on a stump in the wilderness.
Because the alternative is admittedly more expensive. And all the other reasons posted.
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I don't see how a laptop screen is vertical?😕 Are you talking about portrait or landscape? If that's what you mean, a laptop screen is landscape, and an iPad screen is......both. The screen rotates so you can use it either way. I tend to use it in portrait so more information is able to be on the screen at once.
Until you actually sit down on a couch or lie in bed and use an iPad, you'll never really understand how different it feels compared to using a laptop on a couch or in bed.
You don't need to hold it or support it any differently than a laptop actually. If you have a SmartCover or something similar, it props it up at a nice viewing angle on your lap so that you have both hands free. The fact that it doesn't get warm/hot the way a laptop can while it's on your lap is another bonus.
A laptop is better in some ways. An iPad is better in some ways. They are different devices that serve some similar purposes and some different purposes.
Your OP is borderline trollish. The sarcastic responses you received were deserved and expected.
bpaluzzi
macrumors 6502a
So don't buy one. Nobody's holding a gun to your head. Don't worry about why other people are using it. If you haven't figured it out, nothing anyone else says is going to convince you.
Stinks *FOR YOU*. For a lot of people, it's fine. Hate to break THAT to you.
Wow, you really have no idea about the state of the gaming industry, do you?
You mean the same things that 90% of computers are used for? Oh, okay, cool.
You can already sync photos from iPad.
Again, *FOR YOU*. You seem to have a real hard time with understanding that your needs / wants don't match up with everyone's.