I would venture a guess to say that the majority of tablet users are only surfing the web, checking e-mail, watching online videos, and playing angry birds. For the typical tablet user, this is a way to keep $300 in their savings account and still do everything they planned on doing on their tablets.
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Amazon Set to Unveil $199 'Kindle Fire' Tablet
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I would venture a guess to say that the majority of tablet users are only surfing the web, checking e-mail, watching online videos, and playing angry birds. For the typical tablet user, this is a way to keep $300 in their savings account and still do everything they planned on doing on their tablets.
Fine line how ? It's very clear. Secondary meaning. That's the answer to the Amazon 1 click vs Apple Multi-touch trademarks. When Amazon introduced 1-Click, they had a patent for it, they enforced it, they marketed it heavily. They got licenses out of everyone and everything that implemented it and made sure to remind everyone at every turn that "1 Click" Buying was Amazon technology.
This was very clear from the Apple decision. Apple failed to establish secondary meaning and frankly, if you've been paying attention to their advertising, it's quite true they never really pushed "multi-touch" per se as an Apple technology, only a technology the iPhone/iPad implemented.
You really can't compare both trademark cases. Both are for descriptive terms yes, but both went through a much different history.
The Fire is clearly derivative of the iPad--like almost all tablets--but it is not a rip off. It's going for a whole different angle--stripping away little used features, relying heavily on cloud storage, and going for much cheaper.
The iPad will continue to sell very well I have no doubt--but it will now appear overpriced to many who just want to read books, watch video, surf the web on occasion and check email. It's also more portable and light--its hard to see how the Fire won't fly off the shelf unless the revised Nook Color trumps it on features and price somehow.
One interesting thought is how the Fire will effect the prices of the plethora of vastly over-priced full featured Android tablets. Who is going to buy a 7 inch Galaxy tab for $569 when they can get this? I'm going to use my Crystal Ball to predict that there will be a price *crash* for all Android tablets for the holiday shopping season.
Both are hand held tablets capable of running apps and show reading and movie content. what else would I compare it to? My iPhone? My PC? Nope - the closest thing on the market with a successful user- and programmer share is the iPad. That is why a lot of us compare it to that.
The web browser is the only thing that really needs to be good to replace a computer for most people. Tragic I know. Most people are at the library looking for employment, Facebook, and/or YouTube
Actually, it's not wrong in the sense they are putting it. Browsers have been built on the same architectures since Tim Berners-Lee introduced WorldWideWeb.
IE, we have a piece of software on a local computer that basically uses a URL to fetch a hypertext document and all its associated ressources and then uses the local computer's power to render them on-screen graphically. This is what the video means. Webkit (Safari, Chrome, Konqueror), Gecko (Firefox), Trident (Internet Explorer), Presto (Opera) are all the same as WorldWideWeb and Mosaic were in this sense.
It got a promotion.
These forums are entertaining !
So many self proclaimed experts here with vast knowledge of what isn't even here yet.
Only the cheap £89 Kindle will be available in the UK in October.
The Fire has no UK release date yet
Oh i see. Oh well i'll get the reader now and the tab when it launches here.
Obviously, a lot of folks here are under the belief that if Apple did not make it, it will have a sub-par experience. Don't let it get under your skin. Just skip over those posts.
It's very hard NOT to make a tablet that looks somewhat like the iPad. I mean what's a tablet supposed to look like ? Round ? 3D ? A box ?. A tablet form factor is rectangular by definition.
That was one of the few things he did in his career to shoot Apple in the foot. I guess they will have to forgive him since he basically saved their butts otherwise. But that was a really bad "oops moment" as you put it.
Thanks! I wound up finding some technical specifications, resolution, etc. To my surprise, most were at Amazon.com
Yeah, I suspect there are people _willing_ to spend the $499+ on an iPad, but would +prefer+ to spend less if the device fulfills their expectations for a tablet, plus that gives them money-for-content (and their chicks for free...)
Jeff Bezos said:
Quoted from Jeff Bezos himself off of Amazons home page. Damn he's going after Apple hard. However if it's true that you have to use Amazons services, and can't side load your already owned content(Not stating this as fact but I think someone here said this) then this will be a major fail.
- Color screen is not E Ink, so goodbye popular Kindle feature of easily reading in sunlight;
- Flash included in web browser means heavy web surfers should expect battery life = suck;
- Based on RIM PlayBook.
Yep. It's the trifecta of FAIL. Perhaps the Fire is aptly named.
The price point is more complimentary to owning a computer because the Kindle fire seems to be geared towards content consumption ONLY. So, it's not meant to create content that computers can make. Once again, let me say that the iPad is designed to be a device that replaces a computer. It does everything that an average computer user would want to do. For those of us who actually need a little power, we have our macbook pros/iMacs/Mac Pros. The iPad is literally apple's entry into the sub $1000 computer market. The Kindle Fire is Amazon's entry into the Sub-Tablet, or content consumption device market - the Fire is literally an electronic age device to replace all magazines, newspapers, and few other things, and it can browse the web. For $199, that's a fantastic price. All I'm saying is that the iPad is a device that does all those things, and more. Thus, it's in no danger of being eaten by the Fire. The iPad will actually make its way into more homes when People buy a Fire, get used to tablets, and then go to replace their computers. They will be like... why not another tablet? Consider that the iPad is priced at $499. that's about what the average windows user pays for a computer.
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I have. It works.
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I have. It works.
On another subject - I liked Bezos' presentation. It was very straight forward and I (for one) appreciate the lack of hyperbole like "magical" etc. Jobs is a great pitch man - but it IS a pitch. Bezos' style in that presentation was less pitchy and more like "this is what we had, this is what we have now"
As an owner of the iPad 2, the availability of apps for the Kindle will depend on the user base.
At this low a price, it will surely hit critical mass to sway developers. Amazon already has the cloud storage, books, movies, and music. It has enough on offer to make the tablet interesting. Plus, Amazon is running an ecosystem here - the app store is using the same paywall that allows us to buy books. These apps are merely additional purchase from a trusted store that it will be seamless.
The lack of app will be taken care off by time. Critical Mass is what is needed.
At this low a price, it will surely hit critical mass to sway developers. Amazon already has the cloud storage, books, movies, and music. It has enough on offer to make the tablet interesting. Plus, Amazon is running an ecosystem here - the app store is using the same paywall that allows us to buy books. These apps are merely additional purchase from a trusted store that it will be seamless.
The lack of app will be taken care off by time. Critical Mass is what is needed.