Have you ever used an Android tablet? The Apps stink or non existent. Same situation for the fire. I also heard that its possible that tablet Apps built for Ice Cream Sandwich wont work on the fire, so it will be up to Amazon to make compatible Apps. The Fire is a limited media device. Sure it will sell well for Amazon but not in the same class as the ipad.
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Amazon Set to Unveil $199 'Kindle Fire' Tablet
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Have you ever used an Android tablet? The Apps stink or non existent. Same situation for the fire. I also heard that its possible that tablet Apps built for Ice Cream Sandwich wont work on the fire, so it will be up to Amazon to make compatible Apps. The Fire is a limited media device. Sure it will sell well for Amazon but not in the same class as the ipad.
hence my "require" in quotes. I wasn't pushing the issue that it was required. I was responding to the posters in this thread who were insisting that to get content - you HAD to pay $79 a year...
I responded to because someone misunderstood what I meant. Even if Netflix is offered - and I agree that it would potentially compete with Amazon's service and therefore might not make it on there - I can't watch it "on the go." I live in a rural area with fairly good 3G coverage, will not get 4G for quite a while here though. There almost no hot spots. WiFi would be limited to my home and fast food places I scarcely visit.
Fire can use a mobile hotspot with the carrier of my choice. I can also upgrade my 3G hotspot to 4G without having to toss out the Fire. I can also share the data plan of my mobile hotspot with my iPad.
True, but that was not the point I made. I have a plethora of devices and I could purchase tethering off my iPhone but that is running on LTE and my iPad is AT&T. This way, I have better coverage for internet - as I mentioned, I live in a rural area. 4G is not even thought of here at all. And after you hooked it up to you tethering device or you sit at Starbucks using a hotspot, you are back to be either limited in content or you jailbreak it and lose warranty.
In the end, it depends what you want and you get what you pay for. I make no secret of loving my iPad and if you want to know the reasons why I would still make that choice even ot cost me around $1k with warranty extension, you can look up my older posts on this threat.
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Amazon Prime stinks. Its worse than Netflix and Netflix streaming is very limited.
How many apps have you tried on your Fire? Please give us some detailed feedback on them and also all of the Android apps you used for more than 10 seconds. Thanks.
It also does not say how to acquire Movies and TV for the Fire without Amazon Prime too.
No I didn't. Especially since most of your post was edited/updated after I posted. But I still understand you and your point.
And my point is - millions of people own iPads without 3G and love them all the same. Does this limit the Fire's appeal to people like you and those that want to stream elsewhere. Sure.
The Kindle Fire is $200 and backed up by Amazon and its content. The apps will be coming by the truckload. Once the apps are there, the Fire's price will be a significant advantage over the iPad.
Well, you can always tether using your phone... just saying. Must say though, i know quite a few of my colleagues has an ipad. I really only see one guy using it to any extent really, and those who use it for something other than browsing and reading seem to rely on external keyboards and such... so, yeah. If it werent for that Apple logo and the coolness, im quite sure sales would be different*.
* not saying that its a bad device, i'm sure its snappy and wonderful. in fact, i know it is.
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Its an analogy, and a prime example of skewed pricing schemes. Why the need to nitpick? And, i know for a fact that they do give these things away. For example, where i live every (male) 18yo gets one in the mail. Other companies are doing similar things to suck people into buying expensive blades for the rest of their life. Smart business.
More on point, not only books. Various types of content, and - perhaps more importantly - services.
(and yeah, e-book prices are ****-silly. sometimes e-books even cost MORE than the physical copy. if that isnt laughable i dont know what is...)
I'll have to disagree on your disagreement...lol Apple is making record breaking sales all during the bad economy. Have to agree will the original poster that the fire is is not a direct competitor to the iPad, but to Android tablet devices.
Apple can't compete with Amazons books, but can compete with its music store, which is the largest seller of music right now.
Key word being AMAZON android app store. Meaning you can't access Googles android store. So you have to use Amazons version of apps. So the Google android apps you paid for cannot be used on the kindle fire. Meaning you might have to repurchase some of them.
Just gonna comment on point 1. What you fail to recognize here is that the key differentiating factor for the OEMs are speccs. To sell, they need to stand out from the crowd. This is key reason for the spec-race, and the spec-promotion. Services is coming in now, as well as software, but they're still very reliant on hardware. After all, that is usually where their core business lies.
Also, regarding your last point 4. This happens server-side and doesnt harm the client side at all, thus having no negative impact on the end-user as use of Amazon cloud is free of charge anyway.
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Pre-ordered the Fire with leather case and 2-year warranty. I'm going to enjoy Mad Men and Japanese soft-porn!
After reading this article I'm having second thoughts about purchasing the Kindle Fire. The Samsung 7.7 might be a better option for a smaller tablet.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/240801/amazon_kindle_fire_first_impressions_solid_but_limited.html
It won't run all android apps out of the box. Once its gets a cyanogen mod it will be ok. Also it's relatively thick and heavy.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/240801/amazon_kindle_fire_first_impressions_solid_but_limited.html
It won't run all android apps out of the box. Once its gets a cyanogen mod it will be ok. Also it's relatively thick and heavy.
No, it means it will not scratch and be much lighter then other tablets. Aluminum is an interesting "design language" choice, but it's overkill when you put it in everything.
Why in the hell would they put netflix or hulu or any other service on there? The whole point of the fire is a direct, handheld portal to amazon for their content.
It is a US-centric toy. Nobody outside of the US will buy the Kindle Fire because the media service just are not there outside of the US for Amazon whereas Apple has been smart to role out as much of their ecosystem as possible when entering new markets around the world.
Why does Apple allow apps from Amazon, Hulu and Netflix.
You (nor I) have any idea what will and won't be allowed. So why make it a bullet point?
Sony actually is one of the more viable competitors in this game as they have both content and software in their genes. What we're really seeing here though is that the device itself is not as important as the services that surrounds it. This is what enables added revenue streams. This is what allows for differentiation and thus higher margins.