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Right but the article here is regarding Amazon Prime not Amazon Videos.
Correct but, the Amazon Video App is both, Prime and Video. Thus, Amazon has a bit of a fit when they are required to dumb down their App for business decisions. Hopefully they will both get their act together for the benefit of us customers.
 
Hate to break the news to you, but this app has been rumored and promised for years. There have even been rumors that it was completed quite some time ago and held back for political reasons. I can’t believe this is the first time you heard about this unless of course you are intentionally niggling about the word promise...
lol..I figured as much.
 
This idea works until you realize the prime app built into most 4K TV sets can’t play the 4K content

It can on my Amazon Fire Branded 4K TV! But to be fair, I can't see much difference between 4K and 1080P on a 55in. TV from the distance I view the screen.
 
Kinda premature to call it a war at this point, but Apple and Disney are certainly moving their forces into position to join the larger battlefield.

Should be interesting to see how Netflix fares. They're taking on huge amounts of debt to stay in the battle.

Apple has deep pockets, and some smart generals, but little else.

Disney has the IP, which they've already used to wound Netflix. They'll become even more formidable if Iger can return to the table and work out a deal with the Murdochs to acquire the entertainment portion of Fox.
 
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You replied to my comment, I didn't mean to imply that Amazon didn't offer a paid tier ad free option. I have Amazon Prime (actually Amazon Fresh which in my primary area is a level above - and inclusive of - Amazon Prime) so I know the offering. I was commenting in general that I'd like to see other providers go that route (completely ad-free) as well. I really DISlike the Hulu model of paid with commercials and would rather see nominally commercial funded broadcast and cable networks provide all their content OTT ad-free with subscription.

Content providers don't want to give up their existing models but are being disrupted. I look at Amazon's move as encouraging a direction I don't want to see. It makes it easier for Hulu (the networks' trojan horse) and CBS All Access (which isn't a serious play anyway but just a negotiating tool with the cable providers - for now) to keep shoving ads into paid tiers (granted with CBS that's only on live but still). I'm willing to pay a considerable amount for content but I want total flexibility and how and where and when I watch and I don't want to be treated as a product myself in the process. I suspect I'll keep "wanting" for some time :)

Nice rant and all, but you can pay more for ad-free Hulu and have been able to for quite some time.
 
You replied to my comment, I didn't mean to imply that Amazon didn't offer a paid tier ad free option. I have Amazon Prime (actually Amazon Fresh which in my primary area is a level above - and inclusive of - Amazon Prime) so I know the offering. I was commenting in general that I'd like to see other providers go that route (completely ad-free) as well. I really DISlike the Hulu model of paid with commercials and would rather see nominally commercial funded broadcast and cable networks provide all their content OTT ad-free with subscription.

Content providers don't want to give up their existing models but are being disrupted. I look at Amazon's move as encouraging a direction I don't want to see. It makes it easier for Hulu (the networks' trojan horse) and CBS All Access (which isn't a serious play anyway but just a negotiating tool with the cable providers - for now) to keep shoving ads into paid tiers (granted with CBS that's only on live but still). I'm willing to pay a considerable amount for content but I want total flexibility and how and where and when I watch and I don't want to be treated as a product myself in the process. I suspect I'll keep "wanting" for some time :)
I was merely pointing out that, while we’ve been promised an Amazon Prime Video app for the Apple TV, and, currently they have apps for various other devices, since they haven’t released an app for the Apple TV yet, it could be that, rather than this rumor indicating a separate ad-supported APV tvOS app, perhaps they’ve only had one app in the works for tvOS which offers the 3 tiers I suggested. Otherwise, we’re talking about two separate apps...I just doubt, after all this time, they’ll put up a Prime Video app for Prime subscribers and then, the next month put out a new ad-driven app.

Personally I’m unwilling to pay for something that will still force me through ads, and, people don’t realize, the content providers are taking advantage of this opportunity to force ads...haven’t you noticed that, unlike cable, where you can skip or fast forward through ads, wherever you watch via the internet, you are forced to sit through ads, with no option to skip or fast forward? Even with paid subscriptions that still feed you ads (a friend has CBS All Access, it still has ads).
Nice rant and all, but you can pay more for ad-free Hulu and have been able to for quite some time.
Hulu isn’t “ad-free”, you have limited ads with some content at the “ad-free” tier. I’ve watched (friend’s Hulu) so I know. If we start paying for this kind of “ad-free” they will slowly add more ads, I guarantee it. I refuse. I’ll pay for Netflix, no ads.
 
Except Netflix sucks more every month. Unless you like there originals which I mostly don't. I don't and I am sick of hearing about "Stupid Things" (Stranger Things) really enough I barely watch Netflix. Only still have it because T-Mobile foots the bill.

Ad free Hulu is worth it period. I watch it way more as they have way more "licensed" content I love. With Netflix aka Notflix I am afraid to watch any "licensed" content. Just now I started a "licensed" series and it is already going to expire on Netflix. Really so they add the new season of the next filth original series.
 
The article isn’t about adding ads to the paid tier of Prime. It’s about introducing a free, ad-supported tier of Amazon prime.

This would bring it more in line with Hulu, which has separate tiers that allow you to skip advertising.

Except Hulu doesnt have a free ad supported tier anymore. Which is one thing that makes me want to blow my brains out with Hulu. I dont pay Amazon money for video with ads......then pay MORE for no ads. I dont pay Netflix for video with ads..........then have to pay MORE for no ads. But Hulu thinks this is ok somehow. Again, you dont pay Spotify for music with ads.....then pay MORE for no ads. WTF!!!!! I'm paying you (Hulu) a subscription already so it should already have no ads. Which is how it used to be BTW. It would be the equivalent of network tv or terrestrial radio starting to charge us for the same service we get now.....free. and then saying "We have a very special offer for those who dont want ads.....pay us more." Hulu sucks.
 
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Except Hulu doesnt have a free ad supported tier anymore. Which is one thing that makes me want to blow my brains out with Hulu. I dont pay Amazon money for video with ads......then pay MORE for no ads. I dont pay Netflix for video with ads..........then have to pay MORE for no ads. But Hulu thinks this is ok somehow. Again, you dont pay Spotify for music with ads.....then pay MORE for no ads. WTF!!!!! I'm paying you (Hulu) a subscription already so it should already have no ads. Which is how it used to be BTW. It would be the equivalent of network tv or terrestrial radio starting to charge us for the same service we get now.....free. and then saying "We have a very special offer for those who dont want ads.....pay us more." Hulu sucks.
For those of us that remember TV before cable, you had to put up with ads because TV was free, pick up local channels with your antenna. When cable came around, you paid for more channels, yes, but, those channels were without commercials, because you were paying for them.

So it used to be:

Pay for it, no ads. Period.
Not paying for it, put up with ads.

That is how it should be now.

Even then, you could use your VCR to record shows, then playback and fast forward through commercials. This isn’t possible the way content is delivered via the internet...well, let me rephrase that...it is possible, but, the content providers, (all of them, AFIK), lock out the commercials from being able to fast forward or skip.
 
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Except Netflix sucks more every month. Unless you like there originals which I mostly don't. I don't and I am sick of hearing about "Stupid Things" (Stranger Things) really enough I barely watch Netflix. Only still have it because T-Mobile foots the bill.

Ad free Hulu is worth it period. I watch it way more as they have way more "licensed" content I love. With Netflix aka Notflix I am afraid to watch any "licensed" content. Just now I started a "licensed" series and it is already going to expire on Netflix. Really so they add the new season of the next filth original series.

I just cancelled Hulu. Nothing on that channel justifying a subscription fee for me, much less a commercial free premium. A licensed series Hulu offered just disappeared without warning while I was mid-episode. I went to resume and it just said the series was no longer available. Hulu is crap. Couldn't cancel fast enough after that. They don't even offer 4K or HDR. Overpriced crap.


For those of us that remember TV before cable, you had to put up with ads because TV was free, pick up local channels with your antenna. When cable came around, you paid for more channels, yes, but, those channels were without commercials, because you were paying for them.

So it used to be:

Pay for it, no ads. Period.
Not paying for it, put up with ads.

That is how it should be now.

Even then, you could use your VCR to record shows, then playback and fast forward through commercials. This isn’t possible the way content is delivered via the internet...well, let me rephrase that...it is possible, but, the content providers, (all of them, AFIK), lock out the commercials from being able to fast forward or skip.

I lived through the cable revoution in the days when Superstation TBS was the only cable channel there was. What's this about cable channels not having commercials? They were loaded with them!! When I was a kid we had WTBS, MTV and paid for premium HBO. Only HBO had no commercials. And that was from the earliest days. So not really sure where you're getting that. It's just not true.
 
Think yourselves lucky, American friends, that you even have services like Hulu.

Here in Europe, such things are non-existent. However, I am happy with Netflix and Amazon Prime, both of which run from an Amazon Firestick, because it was €35 compared to €175 Apple wanted for an Apple TV 4, and I frankly saw nothing on the Apple TV platform that justified that premium (and it doesn't yet have Amazon Prime either, as previously noted).

(Disclaimer - I still have an Apple TV 2, but it has been retired, as the FireStick frankly wipes the floor with it).
 
For those of us that remember TV before cable, you had to put up with ads because TV was free, pick up local channels with your antenna. When cable came around, you paid for more channels, yes, but, those channels were without commercials, because you were paying for them.

So it used to be:

Pay for it, no ads. Period.
Not paying for it, put up with ads.

That is how it should be now.

Even then, you could use your VCR to record shows, then playback and fast forward through commercials. This isn’t possible the way content is delivered via the internet...well, let me rephrase that...it is possible, but, the content providers, (all of them, AFIK), lock out the commercials from being able to fast forward or skip.

Ah, I didn't realize they'd cut off the ad-supported free tier of Hulu. I use the tier that has zero ads and costs a few bucks more a month. I find it quite a worthwhile addition to a cord-cutting bundle, honestly.
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Kinda premature to call it a war at this point, but Apple and Disney are certainly moving their forces into position to join the larger battlefield.

Should be interesting to see how Netflix fares. They're taking on huge amounts of debt to stay in the battle.

Apple has deep pockets, and some smart generals, but little else.

Disney has the IP, which they've already used to wound Netflix. They'll become even more formidable if Iger can return to the table and work out a deal with the Murdochs to acquire the entertainment portion of Fox.
Off-topic, but that's a great avatar image. Too bad Mr. Robot isn't on Hulu (there, I brought it back on-topic).
 
MacRumors, change your headline, this is FAKE NEWS
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More Fake News spread around like weeds over the web. What happened to verifying your sources before posting something.
Yes, fake news, but, the site you provided link to has some ad thing gunking up my browser (on computer).

MacRumors is a rumor site...unfortunately, it has a mix of both click bait and very relevant apple information.

Amazon has been working on content, and the ad rumor is fabricated from something to do with advertising for Amazon's NFL broadcasts.

"...Amazon has been in talks with various television networks, movie studios and other media entities about providing content to the site..."
http://provancetek.com/blog/2017/11...d-plans-for-ad-supported-prime-video-service/
this short article has a link to a longer article on ecommercetimes site, neither of which bog down my browser.

So, I retract my ideas of how amazon would implement this rumored b.s.

I think, what they are trying to do is get more content so they compete more with other streaming services, and can sell more of the $8.99/mo Prime Video only subscriptions, for those that don't care about Amazon Prime and all of it's benefits. This is so ridiculous, though, you pay $99/year for Amazon Prime service, includes Prime Video as part of the service, or pay $108/year for just the video service :rolleyes:.
 
Amazon doesn't want to give Apple a 30% cut, that's why your Amazon Prime App is missing
Except that there’s an iOS app and I can cast Prime Video via AirPlay to my Apple TV. So that isn’t the reason. Getting tired of waiting for this app.
 
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