I guess I won't be seeing the Amazon Prime app on the Apple TV like how Microsoft doesn't have the office products on the iOS devices...... bummer
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Amazon's Set-Top Box Competitor to Apple TV and Roku Launching Before Holidays
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Um, I'm confused. Where in this thread have I complained about whether this is newsworthy? Yes I've made those complaints before but what does that have to do with this thread?
I was responding to a specific post wondering why Amazon chooses to be in the hardware business. And honestly I don't think Amazon or Google (outside of Motorola) would be in the hardware business if Wall Street expected them to be profitable on it. So why would Amazon make an Apple TV like device? Because they can. And if it helps grow their top line that's all anyone cares about. Which is the opposite of Apple where Wall Street expects both top line and bottom line grown along with strong margins.
Hmmmmm, can't wait to hear more on this
I've wondered how this whole process of how new apps get developed for the current AppleTVs works (does Apple approach them, they approach Apple, etc).I don't know how people do it either. After 3 connections you're often "downgrading" the capability (like going to RCA for audio or the like) or it is so confusing the in-house IT person needs to change the inputs for the rest of the family!
)I think this is what the delay is for the "future" Apple TV. Their model must be one device that can either handle all content or be a hub that controls/manages all the others (but expect that to be limited to only 2-3 devices).
First Samsung has their watch. Now Amazon might have their set-top box. Oh where or where is the disruptive innovation from Apple?
I'm not invested in Amazon nor do I knowingly use their services (for personal reasons). I still think its absurd that a company that can barely turn a profit has a market cap of over $140 billion.
I personally think this is an area where Amazon is in a great place to make a unique box. I don't know how many of you have actually watched a movie or tv show on a kindle fire, but it is actually a pretty slick experience. Things like X-Ray for movies and TV for example, are things that seemed like useless gimmicks at first glance, but turn out to be very handy and used all the time.
I would assume they have a few other tricks up their sleeve, and if Amazon's history is any indication, they are certainly in the best position the allow people to easily create channels -- right down to the hosting of content on amazon's servers. You can do that on roku (minus the hosting), but being part of a local public broadcasting company I can tell you that it isn't as easy as one would hope. Amazon could change that.
Combine all this with the (still unknown) price-point, the fact that they calling on all channel developers to beat the mid-october deadline (tells me there are more than likely a good number of channels ready to roll) and the fact that everyone already has and uses an amazon account... I think they are not only in a great position to do this, but to take it to another level.
I would assume they have a few other tricks up their sleeve, and if Amazon's history is any indication, they are certainly in the best position the allow people to easily create channels -- right down to the hosting of content on amazon's servers. You can do that on roku (minus the hosting), but being part of a local public broadcasting company I can tell you that it isn't as easy as one would hope. Amazon could change that.
Combine all this with the (still unknown) price-point, the fact that they calling on all channel developers to beat the mid-october deadline (tells me there are more than likely a good number of channels ready to roll) and the fact that everyone already has and uses an amazon account... I think they are not only in a great position to do this, but to take it to another level.
Initial reports some months ago about Amazon coming out with a set top box mentioned a game controller of some kind for Android games. Sort of like the Ouya probably, but more limited
probably.
So this could be one aspect that could set their box apart. Except that Apple could be set to announce something very similar within the month.
But still it's something to keep in mind.
I've been looking forward to seeing what they put out and if it's worth having alongside an Apple TV.
So this could be one aspect that could set their box apart. Except that Apple could be set to announce something very similar within the month.
But still it's something to keep in mind.
I've been looking forward to seeing what they put out and if it's worth having alongside an Apple TV.
My $59 refurb Roku 2XS from Amazon has all those channels.
Maybe it's a "hobby" like ATV was to Jobs.
j/k
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Obviously that's a service that Apple doesn't offer right now. But for someone who wants that sort of plan, Netflix still offers a lot more streaming content.
If you think Apple TV is perfect you really need to look at roku.com
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No, Amazon Instant is not available on AppleTV. As of now, the only set-top box that can handle Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, and HBO Go is Roku
Yes many people buy from Amazon, but unless this streaming device has features other than the prime instant video, it is stuck competing in one market the US.
I could have sworn it was available. Used to have a TiVO.
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I totally agree with this. The only reason it hasn't been a problem is because I don't have anything but iTunes since I have a lot of credit on it, but for all the things it supports, it should have a unified search feature.
Umm, Amazon makes a profit from products that retailers and resellers sell through their accounts.
Yes they sell kindles, and have prime members, who rent... but I don't think their profit majorities come from that.
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Oh, and I am not saying I have a problem with Amazon coming out with their own box - thats great and all - wish them luck, I do...
But meanwhile, strike a deal with all the other "box makers" and maximize your profits. Sure come out with a box set of your own - your existing followers may trend toward your box... but I say go big or go home.
I could see two or three sweeteners for an Amazon box.
1. They could offer exclusive content or earlier distribution of content, similar to what they do with Kindle. I can buy and read Kindle books on my ipad, but without a kindle I can't participate in the amazon book borrowing program.
2. Have it double as a kindle. Let me read books, magazines and newspapers on my big screen TV.
3. Undercut Apple in price to let me mirror my phone, tablet, and PC.
1. They could offer exclusive content or earlier distribution of content, similar to what they do with Kindle. I can buy and read Kindle books on my ipad, but without a kindle I can't participate in the amazon book borrowing program.
2. Have it double as a kindle. Let me read books, magazines and newspapers on my big screen TV.
3. Undercut Apple in price to let me mirror my phone, tablet, and PC.
Um, I'm confused. Where in this thread have I complained about whether this is newsworthy? Yes I've made those complaints before but what does that have to do with this thread?
Your reasoning is sound.
Your confusion must lie in the fact that at no time did I say you complained about this thread not being newsworthy. I was commenting on you have a few "stock" replies to topics here on MR. That is all.
There's money to be made in 'them thar' ventures!…..An obvious and logical extension for them, to be sure!
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I used to be interested in these boxes. My smart tv has filled that need. Netflix, YouTube, movie rentals, streaming from computer. These devices will need some differentiation or their market will be eroded by the modern tv.
The ATV doesn't provide anything compelling to me that's not already built in to my tv in some way. Now if they allowed access to the App Store it's a whole new consideration.
The ATV doesn't provide anything compelling to me that's not already built in to my tv in some way. Now if they allowed access to the App Store it's a whole new consideration.
Wish I could have a box that would stream iTunes movies, Vudu & Amazon videos.
Oh......wishful thinking.
For now, Ill stick to my jailbroken Apple TV 2 and all the wonderful options it allows me
Oh......wishful thinking.
For now, Ill stick to my jailbroken Apple TV 2 and all the wonderful options it allows me
If they......
(Amazon) can do a device with better media offers, good price and better features, they can create a product highly competitive in these niche market (media/TV top boxes). Not sure is such product can move Apple to abandon the tag "hobbie" in the AppleTV, a move highly unlikely if Apple really is developing a new TV set......
(Amazon) can do a device with better media offers, good price and better features, they can create a product highly competitive in these niche market (media/TV top boxes). Not sure is such product can move Apple to abandon the tag "hobbie" in the AppleTV, a move highly unlikely if Apple really is developing a new TV set......
$79 for the continental breakfast plus free transportation to and from the hotel. The big pull for prime is the free 2 day shipping. The streaming is just an added bonus.
This is my feeling.
Amazon is closing their garden - Prime only streams on iOS and the Fires. But there are people that would do prime if streamed on everything....
So are they a content or hardware driven company with regards to their streaming media? Hardware seems to be winning in the Video area.
Roku + Plex works here. I'd have an AppleTV but alas, I'm to poor to buy a new TV with HDMI connectors... and the conversion box price stops me. Because the Roku works fine.
Advice for Amazon
I have told Apple for years that if they just added a simple "bookmark" option to an advertisement that would allow us watching tv ads that the customer would then be taken instantly or later if wanted to the intended web site of the advertisers-that's what they want isn't it? Every ad has digital info-every one would pay per click etc. to get us to look further. Amazon could take us to any of its offerings on the tv instead of the the computer as well. This is worth billions and the simplest thing to do really-skip all the other bells and whistles and make some money stupid. Send me some for the idea thanks. Nick
I have told Apple for years that if they just added a simple "bookmark" option to an advertisement that would allow us watching tv ads that the customer would then be taken instantly or later if wanted to the intended web site of the advertisers-that's what they want isn't it? Every ad has digital info-every one would pay per click etc. to get us to look further. Amazon could take us to any of its offerings on the tv instead of the the computer as well. This is worth billions and the simplest thing to do really-skip all the other bells and whistles and make some money stupid. Send me some for the idea thanks. Nick