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They probably preferred the AMD Polaris architecture over the NVIDIA Pascal architecture because of its support for asynchronous compute.

And probably also because the Polaris architecture is faster in newer APIs like DX12/Vulkan, if any of that translates to Apple's APIs either currently or planned in the future. There are also rumors of a 2nd generation of Polaris-based chips based on tighter binning and more mature fabrication processes that yield impressive gains per watt. That refresh will hopefully drop right in.
 
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If a 4 GB 460 has the ability to drive a workflow with two 5K monitors and two RAID boxes...what's the problem?
It doesn't. It will choke, like their 4K and 5K iMacs choke.

It's not a gaming notebook. I don't recall Apple ever catering to the gameophiles with their pro laptops.
Please, for the love of God, let this stupid argument die already.
 
Seriously people. Quit whining about the built-in GPU. It has Thunderbolt 3 x 4. You do realize that is like having four full-speed PCI slots... right? Just get an external GPU. Gigabyte makes a sweet Thunderbolt 3 eGPU:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3079...ptop-external-graphics.amp.html?client=safari

Too, there's this little beast: http://www.roadtovr.com/the-wolfe-external-gpu-aims-to-make-macbooks-vr-ready/

Can't agree more. Do intensive graphics and/or video work with an external GPU at home, and still have the option to be productive on the go. Best of both worlds in one package. Not seeing the issue here other than the price, which inevitably declines over the coming months as resellers seek to move stock. Of course, anyone buying brand new anything from Apple on launch day is just begging to be gouged from both eye sockets.
 
Surface Studio costs $4200 for no native SSD, woof!

New MacBook Pro maxed costs over £4000, i see rhe surface studio as much better value for money and aloe more innovative than a 15 version of then MacBook. Then function bar is a total silly gimmick, so you can have stupid emoji in thier new "pro" machine
 
It may be because AMD is a better all round card, with asynch compute, better support for OpenCL, open standards, etc. while NVIDIA is very much focused on gaming and their own proprietary standards.
Oh, so THAT'S why they picked the crappiest performing AMD of all the choices they had. Makes sense.

P.S. None of that is accurate.
 
It may be because AMD is a better all round card, with asynch compute, better support for OpenCL, open standards, etc. while NVIDIA is very much focused on gaming and their own proprietary standards.

It's not, though, especially this time around. The 1050 or 1060 would have blown it out of the park for OpenCL (and CUDA!) support. There's just more raw performance per watt.
 
And probably also because the Polaris architecture is faster in newer APIs like DX12/Vulkan, if any of that translates to Apple's APIs either currently or planned in the future. There are also rumors of a 2nd generation of Polaris-based chips based on tighter binning and more mature fabrication processes that yield impressive gains per watt. That refresh will hopefully drop right in.

I did not bring that up because Microsoft will probably not licence DX12 outside of Windows, because Apple may shun Vulkan as a potential competitor to Metal and in general because Apple does not seem to care too much about gaming on the Macs.
 
I'm surprised! Its much better than expected. They actually use a 16CU version in Pro 460, which is more than what than the desktop 460 RX offers. This card is most likely slightly faster than the mobile GTX 1050, which is more then what we could have hoped for. Its absolute top performance GPU (we are talking about gaming grade performance here), in an incredibly thin laptop.
 
amazing, the price for the the highest end laptop is insane, with maximum of 16gb of DDR3 ram?? and 1.8 tflops of GPU power. Ill stick with my 9tflops desktop gpu and 128GB of DDR4 ram :D It still baffles me how apple always underpower their machines and save on the penny while still charging more than any other competitor...and people still buys them like crazy...Is that touch strip really magical enough to justify 4 years of development? -I dont think so
 
I did not bring that up because Microsoft will probably not licence DX12 outside of Windows, because Apple may shun Vulkan as a potential competitor to Metal and in general because Apple does not seem to care too much about gaming on the Macs.

What I mean is that forward-looking APIs will be more like DX12/Vulkan than DX11.
 
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I'm surprised! Its much better than expected. They actually use a 16CU version in Pro 460, which is more than what than the desktop 460 RX offers. This card is most likely slightly faster than the mobile GTX 1050, which is more then what we could have hoped for. Its absolute top performance GPU (we are talking about gaming grade performance here), in an incredibly thin laptop.
You're happy with the lowest performing card possible being put into a 2300 dollar machine?
 
I know you couldn't get that performance in a laptop so thin, but still... one wonders what Apple could have done with a mobile 1060 or 1050? variant...
Could have done? Here's probably would have done:
  • Charged an arm and a leg for the option
  • Underclocked it
  • Provided an insufficient PSU to use at the maximum underclocked speed with the CPU at maximum (see my previous posts)
  • Released bad drivers slowly for it
But I must admit, the screen is beautiful.

It doesn't. It will choke, like their 4K and 5K iMacs choke.


Please, for the love of God, let this stupid argument die already.

It's worse than that! 14" gaming notebooks are pushing the limits of what's possible in a small laptop. Apple is not. One doesn't need to be a gameophile to see it.

Not until now, really, no.

The 6770m was OK in it's day and the 8600m.
 
Oh, so THAT'S why they picked the crappiest performing AMD of all the choices they had. Makes sense.

I'm sure future iterations of the brand new MacBook Pro will be far better, even as soon as next year. For some reason (presumably marketing strategy?) they use underpowered internals in the first iteration. I'm having flashbacks to the original MacBook Air launch here.


Yet it's still not possible to get a dedicated GPU for the 13 inch model - damn it!!!

Say hello to your new friend--- an external GPU.


VR here we come...

Exactly! :p

http://www.roadtovr.com/the-wolfe-external-gpu-aims-to-make-macbooks-vr-ready/
 
I'm sure future iterations of the brand new MacBook Pro will be far better, even as soon as next year. For some reason (presumably marketing strategy?) they use underpowered internals in the first iteration. I'm having flashbacks to the original MacBook Air launch here.
Dude, where've you been the last 5 years? No, they're not going to be putting anything other than low to mid-tier GPUs in their Macs. They've made that abundantly clear.
 
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