I just noticed Sapphire says the 6-pin connector on the Nitro+ RX 580 LE is indeed optional. "1 x 8-pin + 1 x 6-pin (optional) AUX Power Connector". Good find.
http://sapphirenitro.sapphiretech.com/en/580-LE.html#specifications
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I just noticed Sapphire says the 6-pin connector on the Nitro+ RX 580 LE is indeed optional. "1 x 8-pin + 1 x 6-pin (optional) AUX Power Connector". Good find.
http://sapphirenitro.sapphiretech.com/en/580-LE.html#specifications
Hi, just to say: just tested the vega 64 nitro+
it works like a charm, and the fans are inaudible while idling, it's like having my 5770 back inside the mac pro.
downside is card is HUUUUUUUGE, i can't even install it leaving the PCIE fan, because this one is blocking the card, she is too damn long. I'm thinking about modding my fan case so i can let it installed with the card. right now i had to remove the fan...
if anyone has an idea about this
it works like a charm, and the fans are inaudible while idling, it's like having my 5770 back inside the mac pro.
downside is card is HUUUUUUUGE, i can't even install it leaving the PCIE fan, because this one is blocking the card, she is too damn long. I'm thinking about modding my fan case so i can let it installed with the card. right now i had to remove the fan...
if anyone has an idea about this
Hi, just to say: just tested the vega 64 nitro+
it works like a charm, and the fans are inaudible while idling, it's like having my 5770 back inside the mac pro.
downside is card is HUUUUUUUGE, i can't even install it leaving the PCIE fan, because this one is blocking the card, she is too damn long. I'm thinking about modding my fan case so i can let it installed with the card. right now i had to remove the fan...
if anyone has an idea about this
Sapphire says the card is 310mm Long. It shouldn't be a problem. My 1080Ti is 313mm long, and I can still install it properly.
Could you mind upload a photo, therefore, let us know how the situation looks like?
yep. here it is:
issue is: your card is less high, and only the top plastic case is a little longer so it can fit in the "hole" in front of the fan.
mine is 2,5 in size and it is as square as the maker could possibly do it: there is no room for it:
issue is: your card is less high, and only the top plastic case is a little longer so it can fit in the "hole" in front of the fan.
mine is 2,5 in size and it is as square as the maker could possibly do it: there is no room for it:
It looks to me that can just fit, in worst case, leave the fan at the "open" position (slide to the left) should be good enough.
But I am not there, and if you can't fit that in, may be the card really few mm too large.
When i put the fan, the screw hole is 3-4 mm away, so i,m sure it does not fit.
That sounds strange to me. Because it seems your card just touch the red line (exactly the same length as the grey plastic plate)
And as long as the card is not longer than the plastic plate, it should able to fit in. As I said, at least should be OK when the fan is at the "open" position.
So, if the PCIe fan is there, even at the "open" position, you still can't slide the card in?
Thanks lilins for testing the Nitro+ Vega! It's unfortunate that the card is too long. Will the vendor allow you to return/exchange it? The Pulse 64 should be released sometime soon, but the Pulse 56 isn't a bad card. If you got the 56 you could flash it with the 64 bios when it becomes available with probably only 1-2% performance hit (below the 64).
Thanks for the tip @MisterAndrew
honestly i’m thinking about keeping the card, buying a spare pcie fan, and modding my actual Fan, hoping i can make something a little clean.
the card itself is amazing, even under load (about an hour of x-plane in 4k) the beast wasn’t making much more noise than when idling. it’s almost as quiet than the original 5770 idling
if i can putback the expansion slot fan and with some macfanscontrol i may be able to make the whole mac pro quieter than it is now
I double check your photos. I really suspect the card can just fit in with the PCIe fan installed.
I can still see the screw hole. That means the card hasn't pass the blue line (PCIe fan case) yet. Just cover the plastic plate which for mounting the fan.
It really looks like the PCIe fan can be there, even though may be the buffer is no more than 1-2mm.
I 100% trust you that there is some difficulties to install the graphic card with the PCIe fan still there. But I just wonder if that's "very hard to install, no room for error, must slide in at the exact correct position / direction" or "unable to install if the fan still there".
I can still see the screw hole. That means the card hasn't pass the blue line (PCIe fan case) yet. Just cover the plastic plate which for mounting the fan.
It really looks like the PCIe fan can be there, even though may be the buffer is no more than 1-2mm.
I 100% trust you that there is some difficulties to install the graphic card with the PCIe fan still there. But I just wonder if that's "very hard to install, no room for error, must slide in at the exact correct position / direction" or "unable to install if the fan still there".
here you have better photos
1) top of card is longer than bottom
2) just in front the grey protection is shorter
Just for information if that has some use to someone, here is the system information details on GPU (in French, but well you'll get it ^^):
Radeon RX Vega 64 :
Jeu de composants : Radeon RX Vega 64
Type : Processeur graphique (GPU)
Bus : PCIe
Longueur de la voie PCIe : x16
VRAM (dynamique, max.) : 8176 Mo
Fournisseur : AMD (0x1002)
Identifiant du périphérique : 0x687f
Identifiant de révision : 0x00c1
Metal : Pris en charge, modèle de réglages macOS GPUFamily1 version 3
Moniteurs :
Acer CB281HK - forced RGB mode (EDID override) :
Résolution : 3840 x 2160 (2160p 4K UHD - Ultra High Definition)
L’interface graphique ressemble à ceci : 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Profondeur de mémoire d’image : Couleurs 24 bits (ARGB8888)
Moniteur principal : Oui
Miroir : Désactivé
Connecté : Oui
Rotation : Géré
Régler la luminosité automatiquement : Non
Type de connexion : DisplayPort
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Finally just a quick question, on these dual bios GPU which one is which?
when i installed it the button was switched to the front of cMP, i tested it and switched it yesterday to the back side of cMP and i can't really see a difference
which position is the OC? which one is the normal?
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here you have better photos
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1) top of card is longer than bottom
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2) just in front the grey protection is shorter
Just for information if that has some use to someone, here is the system information details on GPU (in French, but well you'll get it ^^):
Radeon RX Vega 64 :
Jeu de composants : Radeon RX Vega 64
Type : Processeur graphique (GPU)
Bus : PCIe
Longueur de la voie PCIe : x16
VRAM (dynamique, max.) : 8176 Mo
Fournisseur : AMD (0x1002)
Identifiant du périphérique : 0x687f
Identifiant de révision : 0x00c1
Metal : Pris en charge, modèle de réglages macOS GPUFamily1 version 3
Moniteurs :
Acer CB281HK - forced RGB mode (EDID override) :
Résolution : 3840 x 2160 (2160p 4K UHD - Ultra High Definition)
L’interface graphique ressemble à ceci : 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Profondeur de mémoire d’image : Couleurs 24 bits (ARGB8888)
Moniteur principal : Oui
Miroir : Désactivé
Connecté : Oui
Rotation : Géré
Régler la luminosité automatiquement : Non
Type de connexion : DisplayPort
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Finally just a quick question, on these dual bios GPU which one is which?
when i installed it the button was switched to the front of cMP, i tested it and switched it yesterday to the back side of cMP and i can't really see a difference
which position is the OC? which one is the normal?
I see. That explain why the card can't fit. Thanks for the photos. The pictures explain everything now.
Anyway, if you have Windows, that should be easy to tell the ROM's difference.
And if no Windows installed. You may simply run few benchmarks, record their performance and power draw, then pick the one that perform better, or has better power / performance ratio. My Sapphire HD7950 Mac Edition card's manual clearly explained which ROM contain which BIOS. May be because that's too important for Mac user, that's why they did it. But you may double check the manual if there is any small print to explain which ROM is the OC one.
I managed to install winwin but as my "safe boot" card is also an amd (5770) the driver s won't install and it won't boot on winwin with only the vega...
I am waiting for a GT120 i'll try again
Leave the fan at open position is actually OK.
The metal plate on the other side is strong enough to hold the card into position. Especially the only large card you have is just the Vega 64, and it's basically sits on the CPU cage.
The fan itself can work at either open or close position. That's just a switch of that vertical metal bar.
I tested the PowerColor Red Dragon RX Vega 56 BIOS on my Pulse. It does not have the fan issue! It's very quiet. Depending on fitment (305 mm length) it could be an excellent choice for the cMP.
Thanks for the test.
Have you had the chance to verify the good functioning of the GPU with some programs in particular?
One question: how did you connect your Pulse to MacPro?
Thank you.
hi,
i think i‘d like to try flashing my reference sapphire rx vega 56 with a different bios to fix the fan issue. is the pulse 56 bios mentioned here still the „best“ option for that or would you recommend something else?
thanks and best regards,
haye
Yes, I would use the Pulse bios on the reference. You could also try the Nitro+ since the reference has the full size pcb. However, the Nitro+ bios may cause the card to run hotter since the Nitro+ is overclocked and has a better cooler to keep temps down. On the other hand, the Pulse has a lower fan speed limit (1,650 rpm) than the reference so it may run on the warm side under load as well. The Red Dragon has a 2,000 rpm limit so it may keep it cooler. You could test all of them and see which works better. If you can, let us know the case and card temps at idle and under load before and after the bios flash.
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[doublepost=1525720660][/doublepost]Sorry MisterAndrew,
but have you had the chance to verify the good functioning of the GPU (with the PowerColor Red Dragon RX Vega 56 Bios) with some programs in particular?
One question: how did you connect your Pulse to MacPro?
Thank you.
but have you had the chance to verify the good functioning of the GPU (with the PowerColor Red Dragon RX Vega 56 Bios) with some programs in particular?
One question: how did you connect your Pulse to MacPro?
Thank you.
Anyone tried the latest 10.13.5 beta that just came out today ? (I mean for non-Saphire cards with no fans issues)
I didn't test very many programs with the Red Dragon bios. From my limited testing it seemed to behave identical to the Pulse bios. I did the Pixlas mod, but I know someone who is using the logic board connections with the bios in position 2 without issues.