Amid Apple Car Rumors, Volkswagen CEO Welcomes Competitors to Accelerate Transformation of the Auto Industry

[JosephAW]

Translation: Nooooooooooo!

 

[mozumder]

Toyota makes good electric cars?

They only make GREAT electric cars.

Tesla could learn from Toyota.

 

[erthquake]

I could see Apple entering a partnership (or just purchase it) with one of the new Electric startups. Lucid would be great. They already have the Lucid Air ... the SUV will then be the Lucid Max and the high-end edition of it the Lucid Pro Max ...

Agree. Lucid is a high-end car that aligns well with Apple's premium brand.

I just bought a VW Golf in Canada. This is my way of going green since buying a fuel driven car is MORE ECOLOGICAL in the first 30 000 to 50 000 miles than an electric car. Given that I drive 1 500 miles/year and change every 3 years I certainly put put less carbon in the atmosphere, short and medium term, than I would buying a Tesla or ID3.

That nonsense has long been debunked. Modern long-range EVs are cleaner fossil fuel cars.

Yes, Electric Cars Are Cleaner, Even When The Power Comes From Coal

One argument that has been made against electric vehicles is that we must decarbonise the power system first otherwise cars are no cleaner than if they use gasoline. But a new study suggests that EVs help to tackle climate change in all but the most coal-reliant countries - 95% of markets globally.

www.forbes.com

 

[iapplelove]

Says the company that cheated on emissions tests for years.

Volkswagen should have been completely dismantled for that stunt. Disgusting company.

Ive owned VW since 1998, and will continue to own them.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

I like how it’s worded such that there won’t be any embarrassing quotes to be referenced endlessly in the future

 

[erthquake]

They only make GREAT electric cars.

Tesla could learn from Toyota.

Um, Toyota doesn't currently produce any pure electric cars. They (and the Japanese government) bet on hydrogen, and lost.

 

[applicious84]

I just bought a VW Golf in Canada. This is my way of going green since buying a fuel driven car is MORE ECOLOGICAL in the first 30 000 to 50 000 miles than an electric car. Given that I drive 1 500 miles/year and change every 3 years I certainly put put less carbon in the atmosphere, short and medium term, than I would buying a Tesla or ID3.

Maybe I'm misreading this, but I'm pretty sure making a whole new car has an ecological impact as well though

 

[4jasontv]

They only make GREAT electric cars.

Tesla could learn from Toyota.

Last I heard they don’t have a single EV on the road.

 

[richman555]

If only electric cars could be shipped in a single box from China.

 

[mozumder]

Last I heard they don’t have a single EV on the road.

Maybe you should hear better.

 

[mozumder]

Um, Toyota doesn't currently produce any pure electric cars. They (and the Japanese government) bet on hydrogen, and lost.

This isn't a discussion about "pure" electric cars.

This is a discussion about electric cars, of which plug-in hybrids are a part of.

You can run them without using gas at all.

 

[applicious84]

If only electric cars could be shipped in a single box from China.

Tesla rival Xpeng sells smart electric cars directly to European buyers

Xpeng will deliver 100 G3 SUVs to buyers in Norway, the first time that Chinese-made smart EVs will be directly delivered to individual customers in Europe.

www.scmp.com

 

[4jasontv]

Maybe you should hear better.

Name it. I’m on their website right now and I don’t see it.

 

[citysnaps]

I am not sure an Apple car to compete with current auto companies will fly. There would be huge competition here.

Apple wants to be environmentally friendly. They could make something electric with all the tech but perhaps something with bicycle wheels. Something with a lighter footprint that could sell anywhere.

Flight? Not today. Sometime in the future, perhaps.

 

[mozumder]

Name it. I’m on their website right now and I don’t see it.

Were you under the impression that plug-in hybrids aren't electric vehicles that can run without using gasoline?

 

[richman555]

Tesla rival Xpeng sells smart electric cars directly to European buyers

Xpeng will deliver 100 G3 SUVs to buyers in Norway, the first time that Chinese-made smart EVs will be directly delivered to individual customers in Europe.

www.scmp.com

At least they are trying, only 100 cars though. Id like to see the container ship they were sent on.

 

[erthquake]

This isn't a discussion about "pure" electric cars.

This is a discussion about electric cars, of which plug-in hybrids are a part of.

You can run them without using gas at all.

PHEVs are a joke. They don't have enough range to be a viable EV on their own, worse performance and still have maintenance issues that EVs don't. As ICE car bans grow and pure EVs begin to dominate, there will be a cascade of gas stations going out of business. It will eventually become too inconvenient to fill up a gas tank.

Also, research shows that most people don't actually plug in their PHEVs to charge. They buy them for the carpool lane stickers and virtue signaling.

 

[rp2011]

Yep, the more companies and the more engineers are hired and working on solutions the better. Traditional car companies along with new voices.

 

[StyxMaker]

Flight? Not today. Sometime in the future, perhaps.

Not for a long time, if ever. What might be a minor accident on the ground would easily become lethal in the air.

 

[4jasontv]

Were you under the impression that plug-in hybrids aren't electric vehicles that can run without using gasoline?

Yes. Because they are not. Should we judge Toyota’s based on their electric only performance?

the Prius Prime gets 25 miles and the RAV4 gets 42, in optimal conditions on a flat road, at 70 degrees F,

 

[Plutonius]

Competition is great for the buyers but is it really that good for the sellers ?

 

[Soccertess]

I don't think Cook can pull off a car. Jobs yes but not Timmy O'tool.

Cook might make a 200,000 a dollar car just like his 10,000 dollar watch, but I don't think it will be a success. Cook is not a tenth of the CEO that Elon is. Sure he will make something because any monkey could with a Trillion dollars behind him, but it will never be the transformative force Elon was.

 

[triton100]

This isn’t surprising, auto manufacturers are at the forefront of the future of vehicles, everything will be electric eventually. The issue is they don’t know which direction to go with the technology and they want to get on with the process quickly so they know where to go.

They want everyone to jump in now because this is one of the rare times where all auto manufacturers want everyone’s input and technology side by side so they can decide as a whole where they will all go.

They don’t want to spend millions re tooling their plants if a better technology comes out one year later, or end up leaving early adopters of electric vehicles on their own if there are major changes.

Not everyone, they’re waiting for apples lead so they can follow just like Samsung does in the mobile industry

 

[triton100]

I don't think Cook can pull off a car. Jobs yes but not Timmy O'tool.

Cook might make a 200,000 a dollar car just like his 10,000 dollar watch, but I don't think it will be a success. Cook is not a tenth of the CEO that Elon is. Sure he will make something because any monkey could with a Trillion dollars behind him, but it will never be the transformative force Elon was.

lol the all seeing eye has spoken. Thank you oh wise one. I am humbled in your blinding presence of magical wisdom. (Sarcasm just in case your magical knowledge doesn’t stretch that far

 

[Premium1]

The more, the better. Although I still think Apple is going to be more on the high end and not really "competition" to the others who will have models across all price points (in time).