amoled in the future?

[rjohnstone]

Do current AMOLED screens still have that green tint when viewed off-angle? I find that pretty ugly.

No.
Displaymate rates Samsung's newer panels as the best on the market. With perfect color reproduction.
You can adjust them now to be saturated as hell (adaptive mode) or picture prefect (Basic mode).
The display on my Note 4 is phenomenal compared to the one on my 6+.

 

[klover]

In that long-a$$ New Yorker profile of Jony Ive from back in Feb., there's a (somewhat amusing) reference to the "new display technology" (i.e., good old AMOLED) used in the watch:

He went on to explain that an Apple Watch uses a new display technology whose blacks are blacker than those in an iPhone’s L.E.D. display. This makes it easier to mask the point where, beneath a glass surface, a display ends and its frame begins. An Apple Watch jellyfish swims in deep space, and becomes, Ive said, as much an attribute of the watch as an image. On a current iPhone screen, a jellyfish would be pinned against dark gray, and framed in black, and, Ive said, have “much less magic.”​

Sounds like Ive is enamored enough with AMOLED that it may indeed make its way to the iPhone (plus, isn't it required for "Force Touch")?

Great find, thanks for sharing. I love the black levels on AMOLED panels but I really like how they don't require nearly as much "lottery" returning to get good screen. In fact I can't think on one OLED panel in 6 past devices that weren't good enough to right out of the box.

 

[sunking101]

Great find, thanks for sharing. I love the black levels on AMOLED panels but I really like how they don't require nearly as much "lottery" returning to get good screen. In fact I can't think on one OLED panel in 6 past devices that weren't good enough to right out of the box.

I'm sure that Apple will manage to source some cheaper units which will allow the screen lottery to live long and prosper.☺️

 

[BullittMustang]

Maybe they will use Samsung displays #

 

[XTheLancerX]

I'm more neutral to it, but at the same time don't like it. I will have to consider my wallpaper for battery for example, as blacks actually turn off the pixel for AMOLED where the current display always uses the same amount of power. However, once the battery got low you could turn on grayscale and presumably "dark mode" which may come with iOS 9. Anyway, I want the screen to be visible outdoors as well if they decide to make the switch. My Galaxy S4 was almost impossible to see outside even at max brightness. Also, it didn't get very dark when inside. Very low brightness range, it felt like. When posting pictures I've edited on Instagram, I felt if the image looked too saturated, it would look perfectly fine on most of my followers displays (primarily iPhone), but would continue to be over saturated on mine. Kinda made things feel tricky. It did make for a very awesome look to the UI, however. I could see the weird "pentile" pixel arrangement I think it's called, things looked shadowy and weird at times, and black gaps could be seen along edges of icons at times. Hard to notice, but it was something I noticed and didn't particularly like. Are all AMOLED displays like that?

By the way, this seems like more of an iPhone 7 feature, the "S" models have always used the same display as the previous phone. They may break this pattern though if they really want force touch in the 6S.

 

[Traverse]

What benefit (aside from power draw) will AMOLED bring?

Professional reviews seem to state that iPhone's tend to have more realistic colors compared to oversaturated Samsung phones so I don't really see the point.

 

[bhayes444]

What benefit (aside from power draw) will AMOLED bring?

Professional reviews seem to state that iPhone's tend to have more realistic colors compared to oversaturated Samsung phones so I don't really see the point.

Pretty much what you just said: power draw is lessened on darker screens, higher saturation of colors, and superb black levels. However, if I recall correctly, Samsung doesn't like to share its newest display tech and only puts it in its newest phones. All other devices either source AMOLED panels from elsewhere or get older screen tech from Sammy.

Professional reviewers tend to steer towards the iPhone for that accurate color reproduction because it is necessary in fields that require accurate color rendering (photography, fashion, etc.). I haven't seen an S6 in person, so I'm not qualified to say whether it has the ability to produce accurate colors or not; but people are enamored with that display.

 

[bhayes444]

I have my apps and tabs reload all the time and I only ever use one tab now. I've had to completely change how I use my 6+ coming from the i5. I used to be able to have three or four tabs open and still not have apps reload but sadly the 6+ can't handle anything without reloading. My Android tablet with only 1.5 gigs of RAM is a champ for not reloading so I can't see how these beasts with 3 or 4 GB reload so easily.

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Mine is absolutely underpowered for my needs mate.
Reloads for fun, multiple times per day. It's beyond a joke.
I would MUCH rather have 'poor RAM management' with bags of RAM than supposedly good RAM management with next to no RAM.

I really wish the whole RAM situation wasn't an issue. Apple has a fantastic OS that is hampered by lack of RAM, while Android OEMs throw in plenty of RAM and have the experience hampered by their own terrible skins and the mess that Google made out of 5.0. I had an iPhone 6 and the number of reloading that was going on caused me to send it back and wait for this year's model; hoping it will have enough memory for the system. In the meantime I picked up a 2014 Moto X, which has 2GB of RAM and runs nearly stock Lollipop. The memory management on Lollipop is a joke! The reloads aren't as bad as when I had the iPhone 6, but I wouldn't say they're that much better. I came from using a Nexus 4 and a friend's 2013 Moto X (both had 2GB of RAM and ran Kit Kat), and they multitasked like a champ. The only way to luck out with Android might be to run a close to stock build of Lollipop with 3GB+ of RAM. Right now, I'd say both platforms are on par with their multitasking efforts; at least until 5.1.1 comes to Android phones and iOS 9 or an iPhone with 2GB of RAM comes from Apple.

 

[nj-morris]

What benefit (aside from power draw) will AMOLED bring?

Professional reviews seem to state that iPhone's tend to have more realistic colors compared to oversaturated Samsung phones so I don't really see the point.

Are you kidding? Imagine an app logo appearing on the screen when you get a notification, and nothing else. Imagine cropped video and photos on black bezels. Imagine downscaling a 5.5-inch screen so it can be easier to use with one hand. And imagine a night mode, as so many people have requested on the iOS 9 wish list. It would just be a great experience.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

amoled in the future?

Are you kidding? Imagine an app logo appearing on the screen when you get a notification, and nothing else. Imagine cropped video and photos on black bezels. Imagine downscaling a 5.5-inch screen so it can be easier to use with one hand. And imagine a night mode, as so many people have requested on the iOS 9 wish list. It would just be a great experience.

I'm confused? How are all those exclusive to an AMOLED display? They sound more like software features.

 

[DCIFRTHS]

I'm confused? How are all those exclusive to an AMOLED display? They sound more like software features.

I think that he might be referring to the pop that OLED screens have with regard to colors. Also, they have real blacks as opposed to "almost black" that LCD's have.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I think that he might be referring to the pop that OLED screens have with regard to colors. Also, they have real blacks as opposed to "almost black" that LCD's have.

It was the app logo and downsizing for one handed use that threw me.

I think there are pro's and con's for both LCD and OLED to be honest. Better blacks or whites are a selling point to some people for sure, but for me it's not a worry as the screen is too small for me to tell them much apart, especially when the brightness is turned down to a quarter.

 

[nj-morris]

It was the app logo and downsizing for one handed use that threw me.

I think there are pro's and con's for both LCD and OLED to be honest. Better blacks or whites are a selling point to some people for sure, but for me it's not a worry as the screen is too small for me to tell them much apart, especially when the brightness is turned down to a quarter.

All Sammy and other companies do to advertise their AMOLEDs are just saying, 'deeper blacks' and leave it at that. Either they don't know what to do with then, or they aren't advertising it enough, because AMOLEDs have plenty of potential.

 

[miscend]

Professional reviews seem to state that iPhone's tend to have more realistic colors compared to oversaturated Samsung phones so I don't really see the point.

Not anymore. Displaymate have done scientific tests and have given the S6 an excellent score for colour accuracy. Better than the iPhone 6 for Adobe RGB.

http://mobile.extremetech.com/latest/222816-displaymate-galaxy-s6-has-the-best-smartphone-display-ever?origref=

 

[jabingla2810]

isn't it required for "Force Touch")?

No. Force Touch is not related to screen technology. Two seperate things.

The trackpad on the new Macbook uses Force Touch for example.

 

[keatth]

Force touch is the tactic engine and software working together to give the illusion of a click.

I personally wouldn't mind a different screen, deep blacks would be cool with lock screens and animations like apple watch.

 

[AS90]

Force touch is the tactic engine and software working together to give the illusion of a click.

I personally wouldn't mind a different screen, deep blacks would be cool with lock screens and animations like apple watch.

Taptic

It also needs a pressure sensitive panel.

 

[rjohnstone]

Not anymore. Displaymate have done scientific tests and have given the S6 an excellent score for colour accuracy. Better than the iPhone 6 for Adobe RGB.

http://mobile.extremetech.com/lates...has-the-best-smartphone-display-ever?origref=

This...
Displaymate rates Samsung's new panels used in the Note 4 and S6/S6 Edge as perfect color reproduction.
You can change them to be punchy and over saturated if you want, but their basic mode is spot on perfect color.
Their brightness levels are significantly increased as well.
They now get "Very Good" to Excellent" ratings in all testing conditions.

 

[nickchallis92]

What benefit (aside from power draw) will AMOLED bring?

Professional reviews seem to state that iPhone's tend to have more realistic colors compared to oversaturated Samsung phones so I don't really see the point.

This is just a myth that needs to be expelled.

 

[biscuitsxluv]

I had the Note 3 and loved the screen. The colors on iDevices aren't as saturated as the Samsung.

 

[5105973]

Don't the Samsung screens get burn in? When I was looking at them last year I noticed lots of burned in images on Note 3 screens (I think that's what the model was, it definitely had the AMOLED screen though) at Best Buy.

 

[daddyd302]

Have to say that the displays in the S6 and Note 5 are fantastic.

How in the world did you get your hands on a Note 5 this early? Did you come back from the future?


I have both the S6 and Iphone 6 and I'm no expert but they look pretty much the same to me when I use basic instead of AMOLED photo. If I use AMOLED photo then the S6 pictures look better.

 

[geoff5093]

I'm confused? How are all those exclusive to an AMOLED display? They sound more like software features.

I think that he might be referring to the pop that OLED screens have with regard to colors. Also, they have real blacks as opposed to "almost black" that LCD's have.

They are exclusive to AMOLED, because AMOLED displays only have to light up the pixels that are being used. So if you have the time or notifications light up on an AMOLED display, the power draw is basically nothing. Compared to an LCD display which has to turn on the entire display, and will cause major battery issues.

Don't the Samsung screens get burn in? When I was looking at them last year I noticed lots of burned in images on Note 3 screens (I think that's what the model was, it definitely had the AMOLED screen though) at Best Buy.

I've seen that before too, but usually it's because the phones stay on 24/7 for weeks or months on end without changing much.

 

[C DM]

They are exclusive to AMOLED, because AMOLED displays only have to light up the pixels that are being used. So if you have the time or notifications light up on an AMOLED display, the power draw is basically nothing. Compared to an LCD display which has to turn on the entire display, and will cause major battery issues.


I've seen that before too, but usually it's because the phones stay on 24/7 for weeks or months on end without changing much.

Well, they will use up more of the battery in comparison, but that doesn't really mean they would cause battery issues, let alone major ones.

 

[geoff5093]

Well, they will use up more of the battery in comparison, but that doesn't really mean they would cause battery issues, let alone major ones.

That's what I refer to by battery issues. If the entire LCD display is turning on when you get a notification, and like most of us, that's a lot, you will have issues with the battery not lasting nearly as long as before. Compared to AMOLED where you don't have that problem.