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thiagos

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Dec 20, 2007
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NYC (Manhattan)
I wanted to give my thoughts on the new iPhone. Being one of those people who have switched back and fourth between iPhones and Androids, I can honestly say this has been the smartest move on Apple's side in a long time.
Those of you who complain about the fact that Steve Jobs would have never approved of the screen size since he was set on the small screen phones, you need to also realize that, Apple was losing market share because Android phones came with the bigger screen that most people wanted.
I had a friend come up to me and say that the iPhone doesn't feel like an Apple product. Are you kidding me?*
It is built really well, sturdy, non plastic and beautiful.
If you drop your phone, it will break after all it is made of glass and metal. If it wasn't, people would be throwing a fit because of the quality. Get a case!
I have never ever broken a screen on an iPhone and I've had the iPhone since the first day it debuted in 2007 so that goes to show you something.

iOS8 on another hand, feels like a beta product. It's buggy and I have many apps closing on me very frequently but also we have to realize that, most of these apps were not updated to iOS 8.

I have owned many of the top of the line Android phones on the market (Samsung S5, HTC One, LG G3). Although they are great phones, after using it for a while, they become sluggish and buggy due to fragmentation.

There is no better phone out there. People will always complain. Instead of complaining, embrace new technologies and realize that Apple has never made a bad move.

The battery life on the Plus, is insane. I've been using this thing on the brightest setting, browsing the internet, using candy crush and the battery lasts me a day. I use my phone all the time, I'm on it all day.

The battery charges super fast. All my Android phones took forever to charge and the battery was mediocre.

Apple pushes in updates all the time, android phones usually get an update every 6 months or so (if). So if they release a bad firmware, you are stuck with it for a long time.

I'm in love with this thing. It's huge but it feels good on the hand. I had a harder time holding the LG G3 and the super plasticky Samsung S5.

Picture quality is amazing and fast. They could have released a better flash for the camera (the LG G3 had an awesome flash) but the pictures are sharp and the camera is super fast.

If you have used Android phones, you'll know what I'm talking about.

All in all I give this phone an A. Just wish they had worked on iOS 8 a little more prior to release but I'm sure that will be fixed within the month.
 

The Phazer

macrumors 68030
Oct 31, 2007
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London, UK
Those of you who complain about the fact that Steve Jobs would have never approved of the screen size since he was set on the small screen phones, you need to also realize that, Apple was losing market share because Android phones came with the bigger screen that most people wanted.

We don't object to Apple releasing a bigger iPhone. There was clearly a demand.

We object to Apple telling those of us who wanted it to stay smaller to go and **** ourselves with no new modern hardware in a smaller form factor.
 

phositadc

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Dec 9, 2012
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Funny. I'm also an Android user and I think iOS8--not the iPhone itself--is the more innovative of Apple's new releases.

Imo the addition of third party keyboards and notification pulldown widgets is going to be the best thing about the new iPhone for many Android users... Not necessarily the size.
 

chupachup

macrumors 6502
Sep 1, 2013
487
2
I wanted to give my thoughts on the new iPhone. Being one of those people who have switched back and fourth between iPhones and Androids, I can honestly say this has been the smartest move on Apple's side in a long time.
Those of you who complain about the fact that Steve Jobs would have never approved of the screen size since he was set on the small screen phones, you need to also realize that, Apple was losing market share because Android phones came with the bigger screen that most people wanted.
I had a friend come up to me and say that the iPhone doesn't feel like an Apple product. Are you kidding me?*
It is built really well, sturdy, non plastic and beautiful.
If you drop your phone, it will break after all it is made of glass and metal. If it wasn't, people would be throwing a fit because of the quality. Get a case!
I have never ever broken a screen on an iPhone and I've had the iPhone since the first day it debuted in 2007 so that goes to show you something.

iOS8 on another hand, feels like a beta product. It's buggy and I have many apps closing on me very frequently but also we have to realize that, most of these apps were not updated to iOS 8.

I have owned many of the top of the line Android phones on the market (Samsung S5, HTC One, LG G3). Although they are great phones, after using it for a while, they become sluggish and buggy due to fragmentation.

There is no better phone out there. People will always complain. Instead of complaining, embrace new technologies and realize that Apple has never made a bad move.

The battery life on the Plus, is insane. I've been using this thing on the brightest setting, browsing the internet, using candy crush and the battery lasts me a day. I use my phone all the time, I'm on it all day.

The battery charges super fast. All my Android phones took forever to charge and the battery was mediocre.

Apple pushes in updates all the time, android phones usually get an update every 6 months or so (if). So if they release a bad firmware, you are stuck with it for a long time.

I'm in love with this thing. It's huge but it feels good on the hand. I had a harder time holding the LG G3 and the super plasticky Samsung S5.

Picture quality is amazing and fast. They could have released a better flash for the camera (the LG G3 had an awesome flash) but the pictures are sharp and the camera is super fast.

If you have used Android phones, you'll know what I'm talking about.

All in all I give this phone an A. Just wish they had worked on iOS 8 a little more prior to release but I'm sure that will be fixed within the month.

Nonsense. There is no fragmentation after 4.3.

I've had an LG G2 for a year and it's running as smooth as when it came out of the box.

Can't say the same for my iPhone 4s. Runs like crap on iOS 7.
 

whirldy

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Dec 20, 2011
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Funny. I'm also an Android user and I think iOS8--not the iPhone itself--is the more innovative of Apple's new releases.

Imo the addition of third party keyboards and notification pulldown widgets is going to be the best thing about the new iPhone for many Android users... Not necessarily the size.


Just wait until you see the iOS 8 jailbreak!!!

 

matrix07

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Jun 24, 2010
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All in all I give this phone an A. Just wish they had worked on iOS 8 a little more prior to release but I'm sure that will be fixed within the month.

Yeah I think Apple is too ambitious for iOS 8. Hopefully they'll fix it soon. I just want the OS like iOS 6 that everything just ran fast.
 

ahfu25

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Dec 28, 2009
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I have always been a Apple fan on the Mac side but never a die hard fan on their phone side. I go back and forth with apple and android. To me both OS's offer plenty of options and you can accomplish the same with both systems IMO. Apple is much more user friendly. I went to android with the Galaxy S5 and Note 3 because of the size only. Now I'm jumping back to apple. This was a very smart move for apple. :cool:
 

panzer06

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Sep 23, 2006
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Kilrath
Nonsense. There is no fragmentation after 4.3.

I've had an LG G2 for a year and it's running as smooth as when it came out of the box.

Can't say the same for my iPhone 4s. Runs like crap on iOS 7.

Agree, my Android phones runs great on 4.4 but then again I rarely keep a phone for more than 12 months.

As to that 4s... at least they let you upgrade. Android market fragmentation and carrier interference means that many Android devices only get one upgrade before they are abandoned.

So you have the privilege and honor of running the latest OS on your old iPhones but rather slowly.
 

thiagos

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Dec 20, 2007
371
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NYC (Manhattan)
Nonsense. There is no fragmentation after 4.3.

I've had an LG G2 for a year and it's running as smooth as when it came out of the box.

Can't say the same for my iPhone 4s. Runs like crap on iOS 7.

Both my Samsung S5 and LG G3 became very sluggish to the point that it would take 10 seconds to open up the phone app. I never really downloaded a lot of stuff and used it mostly for browsing and music. Of all of those 3, the HTC One was the least problematic phone. Don't get me wrong, I like Androids but the fact that it is an open OS, you have to rely on the manufacturers to make it work right.

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Agree, my Android phones runs great on 4.4 but then again I rarely keep a phone for more than 12 months.

As to that 4s... at least they let you upgrade. Android market fragmentation and carrier interference means that many Android devices only get one upgrade before they are abandoned.

So you have the privilege and honor of running the latest OS on your old iPhones but rather slowly.

That's another thing, Apple lets you stay up to date on the new os (as much as they can of course, due to the hardware not being able to handle the new softwares).

Why I found to be a **** move on Apple's part was to release and 16GB phone and then jumping to 64GB. Forcing most users to spend an extra $100 when nowadays, most users require at least 32GB due to movies, photos, videos and music. That ticked me off a bit...
 

panzer06

Contributor
Sep 23, 2006
3,266
210
Kilrath
Both my Samsung S5 and LG G3 became very sluggish to the point that it would take 10 seconds to open up the phone app. I never really downloaded a lot of stuff and used it mostly for browsing and music. Of all of those 3, the HTC One was the least problematic phone. Don't get me wrong, I like Androids but the fact that it is an open OS, you have to rely on the manufacturers to make it work right.

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ah, yes my Android devices of late have been HTC One M7 & now M8, Moto X Gen 1 and Sony Xperia Ultra Z LTE and all have performed flawlessly.

Note, no Samsung. I hate Samsung phones, not a fan of Touch Wiz at all.

That's another thing, Apple lets you stay up to date on the new os (as much as they can of course, due to the hardware not being able to handle the new softwares).

Why I found to be a **** move on Apple's part was to release and 16GB phone and then jumping to 64GB. Forcing most users to spend an extra $100 when nowadays, most users require at least 32GB due to movies, photos, videos and music. That ticked me off a bit...

Yes, the 16GB to 64GB was indeed a move to force many buyers to move to the middle phone. 32GB is the sweet spot and they've known for years that a certain percentage always move up to 32GB because 16GB is too small. Eliminating 16GB would've cost them money. They look at as a positive since you would've gone to 32GB now you get 64GB at the same price. :)

Besides there's no motivation to move higher. Most Android and Windows phones come with 16GB or less (except most US HTC One M8's which have 32GB) and offer MicroSD slots for storage.

All about the $$$ my friend!
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
We don't object to Apple releasing a bigger iPhone. There was clearly a demand.

We object to Apple telling those of us who wanted it to stay smaller to go and **** ourselves with no new modern hardware in a smaller form factor.

As if the 5S isn't "modern hardware"? For goodness sake, it's only a year old!

And there isn't an app out there that puts even the A7 to the test.....

The 5S is still a great smartphone. Even better now that you can get a 32GB for half (on contract) what it cost a year ago.
 

fishmd

macrumors 68000
Jun 18, 2008
1,609
44
Sunny South Florida
Both my Samsung S5 and LG G3 became very sluggish to the point that it would take 10 seconds to open up the phone app. I never really downloaded a lot of stuff and used it mostly for browsing and music. Of all of those 3, the HTC One was the least problematic phone. Don't get me wrong, I like Androids but the fact that it is an open OS, you have to rely on the manufacturers to make it work right.

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That's another thing, Apple lets you stay up to date on the new os (as much as they can of course, due to the hardware not being able to handle the new softwares).



Why I found to be a **** move on Apple's part was to release and 16GB phone and then jumping to 64GB. Forcing most users to spend an extra $100 when nowadays, most users require at least 32GB due to movies, photos, videos and music. That ticked me off a bit...


Why did the storage tick you off though? You now get 64 GB for the price of the old 32 GB? That is pretty good I think. But I know what you mean about keeping the 16GB at the low end.

As to the OP point, yes, running android that is put on HTC or Samsung does get clunky, mainly due to the overlays that these companies put on top. If you have ever tried pure android however, I think you would be thinking much differently. Nexus 5 for example runs as smooth as iphone iOS. With Android L it will only be better. I am really looking forward to the Nexus X.

That said, I too switched over to Android mainly due to Apple continuing with the dinky screens when they came out with the 5S. I said forget it and went with the Note 3. I also got a OnePlus One and have been using that as well. Both amazing devices. Now that Apple joined the big boy game however, I am seriously considering a try back with Apple with the 6 plus. I still use iOS with my iPad and iPad mini, so I have not totally gotten out of the loop with Apple. And likely when Nexus X comes out, pricing will allow me to get that off contract too to keep my Android fix going. I just love all the customization Android allows to give it up entirely. Even with jailbreak (if it comes to the iPhone 6) is nothing compared to what all you can do with android.

Then you got the Note 4 right around the corner too, which promises to be something amazing once again. So many choices. That is why I am glad that I like both ios and android and will continue to use both in one form or another.
 

FriednTested

macrumors 6502
Jan 13, 2014
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Nonsense. There is no fragmentation after 4.3.

I've had an LG G2 for a year and it's running as smooth as when it came out of the box.

Can't say the same for my iPhone 4s. Runs like crap on iOS 7.

I almost believed you till you mentioned that iOS 7runs like crap on your 4S... If you would've said 4 you would have gotten away with it... That last sentence has proved you're simply lying...
 

fishmd

macrumors 68000
Jun 18, 2008
1,609
44
Sunny South Florida
I almost believed you till you mentioned that iOS 7runs like crap on your 4S... If you would've said 4 you would have gotten away with it... That last sentence has proved you're simply lying...

Uh, no. Both my parent have iPhone 4S and iOS 7 does run like crap on their devices. They want to get rid of them horribly. So I doubt he is lying. Maybe not all 4s have problems with it, but some for sure do.
 

paulking

macrumors member
Aug 7, 2010
60
5
We don't object to Apple releasing a bigger iPhone. There was clearly a demand.

We object to Apple telling those of us who wanted it to stay smaller to go and **** ourselves with no new modern hardware in a smaller form factor.

Apple may drop the smaller form at some point only to read release it later so it's a novelty in their lineup.
Hopefully they'll just keep it in the mix like the Samsung Galaxy mini which is like the ip5 series.
 

Bobo03

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Sep 21, 2014
148
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I'm currently using an android (Note 3), but I give love to all of the mobile phones.

I usually switch back and forth between android, windows, and BB every 3-4 months. Haven't owned an iPhone since the 4. I was excited about the iPhone this year, and I think they out out a good product, but I feel that it was really just a push to get out a bigger phone. Feels like this release is missing that apple magic.

I'm still on the fence. I wanted a plus, but the software doesn't really make use of the larger screen. Apple wants to keep mentioning that the flips in landscape and the mail/message app over a new viewing experience. Not that exciting. I don't use the pen on the note much, but the ability to run 2 apps side by side on my big screen is great. I would like to see apple actually make use of the bigger screen.

I thought that I would get a regular 6, figured I would like to go back to a smaller sized phone for a bit, but I can't deal with bad battery life. My note has a great battery, and it seems that the 6 plus does as well. I guess technology currently dictates that you need a large phone to experience exceptional battery life.

I'm just on the fence. And if I switch, then the wife will want to switch, so it is just a lot to think about. I've gone twice to play with the phones and still can't decide. I like the new quick reply in ios 8, and thought that the small screen would be beneficial for that feature.

I dunno, thanks for letting me ramble.
 

The Phazer

macrumors 68030
Oct 31, 2007
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London, UK
As if the 5S isn't "modern hardware"? For goodness sake, it's only a year old!

And there isn't an app out there that puts even the A7 to the test.....

The 5S is still a great smartphone. Even better now that you can get a 32GB for half (on contract) what it cost a year ago.

The 5S's UK price has barely dropped at all, for losing a third of it's effective lifespan.

No, that's a ****** deal.
 

FriednTested

macrumors 6502
Jan 13, 2014
402
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Uh, no. Both my parent have iPhone 4S and iOS 7 does run like crap on their devices. They want to get rid of them horribly. So I doubt he is lying. Maybe not all 4s have problems with it, but some for sure do.

There are 5 4S's in my friends circle... And all ran iOS 7 with 0 problems...

Also you can't generalise because YOUR phone is an exception... Also all android devices around me (and there's a full range across price bands and companies) have to be compulsorily Need a fresh re-install every 6-8 months as they start lagging like ****...
 

fishmd

macrumors 68000
Jun 18, 2008
1,609
44
Sunny South Florida
There are 5 4S's in my friends circle... And all ran iOS 7 with 0 problems...

Also you can't generalise because YOUR phone is an exception... Also all android devices around me (and there's a full range across price bands and companies) have to be compulsorily Need a fresh re-install every 6-8 months as they start lagging like ****...

Right. But don't you see the generalization you are making here. Or are you too blinded? You called the guy a liar, which is completely not warranted.

I simply pointed out that his device, just like my parents, may not run ios 7 well. I am not saying that all will run crappy, but some may. I also have 3 devices running Android. One is laggy sometimes and I do flash new ROMs on it often and tweak it a ton, 2 are not and run perfectly. Again, can't generalize. Each device is different slightly and those slight differences can make a world of difference in how well or not something runs a standardized OS.

Good grief man.
 

stix666

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Nov 13, 2005
228
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The 5S's UK price has barely dropped at all, for losing a third of it's effective lifespan.

No, that's a ****** deal.

True, but it meant I could sell my 5s for £370 within minutes of going up on eBay. I'm very happy as is the buyer. And I love my new shiney shiney ;)
 

thiagos

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Dec 20, 2007
371
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NYC (Manhattan)
Why did the storage tick you off though? You now get 64 GB for the price of the old 32 GB? That is pretty good I think. But I know what you mean about keeping the 16GB at the low end.

As to the OP point, yes, running android that is put on HTC or Samsung does get clunky, mainly due to the overlays that these companies put on top. If you have ever tried pure android however, I think you would be thinking much differently. Nexus 5 for example runs as smooth as iphone iOS. With Android L it will only be better. I am really looking forward to the Nexus X.

That said, I too switched over to Android mainly due to Apple continuing with the dinky screens when they came out with the 5S. I said forget it and went with the Note 3. I also got a OnePlus One and have been using that as well. Both amazing devices. Now that Apple joined the big boy game however, I am seriously considering a try back with Apple with the 6 plus. I still use iOS with my iPad and iPad mini, so I have not totally gotten out of the loop with Apple. And likely when Nexus X comes out, pricing will allow me to get that off contract too to keep my Android fix going. I just love all the customization Android allows to give it up entirely. Even with jailbreak (if it comes to the iPhone 6) is nothing compared to what all you can do with android.

Then you got the Note 4 right around the corner too, which promises to be something amazing once again. So many choices. That is why I am glad that I like both ios and android and will continue to use both in one form or another.

I didn't really want to spend $399 on a phone, I was kind of hoping since the complete redesign, they would eliminated the 16GB. I don't really need 64GB especially since the Plus costs $100 more. I get it, they need to make money, I just wish we would be able to somewhat expand the storage without having to pay $100 more but that is a wishful thinking. I think 32GB should have been standard last year.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
13,088
3,654
Boston, MA
We don't object to Apple releasing a bigger iPhone. There was clearly a demand.

We object to Apple telling those of us who wanted it to stay smaller to go and **** ourselves with no new modern hardware in a smaller form factor.

A company discontinuing development on a product is telling you to go **** yourself? News to me.
 

Paradoxally

macrumors 68000
Feb 4, 2011
1,866
2,509
We don't object to Apple releasing a bigger iPhone. There was clearly a demand.

We object to Apple telling those of us who wanted it to stay smaller to go and **** ourselves with no new modern hardware in a smaller form factor.

Have you seen iOS 8? It's practically BEGGING for more screen real estate. And it will only get worse in iOS 9 dropping support for small screens (4S).

A 4" iPhone 6 would be a bad move imo. I know that when or before iOS 9 drops, I will upgrade from my iPhone 5. The screen is good, but it's already getting a bit small.
 

JoeG4

macrumors 68030
Jan 11, 2002
2,732
329
Agree, my Android phones runs great on 4.4 but then again I rarely keep a phone for more than 12 months.

As to that 4s... at least they let you upgrade. Android market fragmentation and carrier interference means that many Android devices only get one upgrade before they are abandoned.

So you have the privilege and honor of running the latest OS on your old iPhones but rather slowly.

This is very true! On android phones you can almost always run the latest version, but it's always a 3rd party distribution put together by... Who knows? And even the larger ones that are legit, like cyanogen mod, don't always work as well as you'd expect because of things like using a baseband driver that came with the oem 4.2 rom in android 4.4, and then using the camera driver from 4.1 because samsungs goofy code doesn't work in 4.4 unless you have the Verizon note 2 and if you have that one, you can't use cyanogen mod but there's a miui hack job made by this dude named toiApplesuxxor927482 that works awesome! Unless you use 64gb micro sd, in which case your phone will crash every time you open gmail after going to google on chrome.

Ok none of that is exactly true, but I think it fairly reflects my experience with a note 2 lol
 
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