You'll notice that no one else stooped to personal attacks. You'll notice that it doesn't help your argument.
And I hope that you notice that MobileMe is exactly what you're looking for.
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An Open Letter to Steve Jobs
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You'll notice that no one else stooped to personal attacks. You'll notice that it doesn't help your argument.
And I hope that you notice that MobileMe is exactly what you're looking for.
I swear, these newbies drive me insane. They're like the people who obsess about making product mockups in photoshop. They're the people that give a damn about profit-rich corporations. Admire the products, the philosophies - not the companies or the people themselves. They certainly don't admire you.
It's a sad day when the ability to think is in such short supply. Even 30 seconds worth of good quality thought could have stopped this thread before it even began.
It's a sad day when the ability to think is in such short supply. Even 30 seconds worth of good quality thought could have stopped this thread before it even began.
My apologies, he did buy it off Lucasfilm.
No it isn't biodegradable, but my current Samsung phone was made by a company who is connected with Pixar that made a movie depicting grim scenes of the Earth covered with garbage. Don't get me wrong here, I really like the iPhone, I just thought this was an interesting point.
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Another open letter
Steve-
I dont know you personally. If I did, Id probably have your email addy, which would allow me to address these issues privately. But I dont. So apologies in advance for the "public display of affection" Im about to deliver.
Dude, everyone admires your passion, vision, out-of-the-box thinking, and up until now, youre uncompromising drive and commitment to not unleash steaming piles of cr@p on an unsuspecting public. You seem to really get that people want stuff that works.
Steve, buddy, pal I need exactly three things from a mobile telephone in order for my life to work:
1. I need a mobile handset that will reliably make and complete telephone calls.
2. I need my calendar.
3. I need my contacts.
Oh I also want email and webrowsing.
I use a Mac at home and a PC at work. I know that isnt your fault, but its reality for most of us that dont work at Apple. My wife needs to be able to add appointments and contacts on my home Mac; I need those updated appointments and contacts in my phone. I just freakin do. You do OK in this regard when I only use Apple products.
I need to be able to add appointments and contacts on my work PC; I need those updated appointments and contacts in my phone. I just freakin do.
Firmware 2.0 allows me to do this, even though my employer "doesn't support active sync". My guess is that maybe as many as 10 million or so people in the same predicament I am, would have their life unmaginably improved by using Firmware 2.0 on their iPhone. I love my Mac, and now the headaches involved in keeping my work life and personal life in sync are gone, I love it, and my iPhone even more than I did.
Steve, I love ya like a brother, 'cos you are obviously paying attention. Have you hired a bunch of geniuses to engineer this stuff, and licensed only me most useful stuff from Microsoft? It sure seems you like you must have. IT JUST WORKS.
What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right.
Now, all we need is cut and paste.
Warmest Regards,
memesmith
Steve-
I dont know you personally. If I did, Id probably have your email addy, which would allow me to address these issues privately. But I dont. So apologies in advance for the "public display of affection" Im about to deliver.
Dude, everyone admires your passion, vision, out-of-the-box thinking, and up until now, youre uncompromising drive and commitment to not unleash steaming piles of cr@p on an unsuspecting public. You seem to really get that people want stuff that works.
Steve, buddy, pal I need exactly three things from a mobile telephone in order for my life to work:
1. I need a mobile handset that will reliably make and complete telephone calls.
2. I need my calendar.
3. I need my contacts.
Oh I also want email and webrowsing.
I use a Mac at home and a PC at work. I know that isnt your fault, but its reality for most of us that dont work at Apple. My wife needs to be able to add appointments and contacts on my home Mac; I need those updated appointments and contacts in my phone. I just freakin do. You do OK in this regard when I only use Apple products.
I need to be able to add appointments and contacts on my work PC; I need those updated appointments and contacts in my phone. I just freakin do.
Firmware 2.0 allows me to do this, even though my employer "doesn't support active sync". My guess is that maybe as many as 10 million or so people in the same predicament I am, would have their life unmaginably improved by using Firmware 2.0 on their iPhone. I love my Mac, and now the headaches involved in keeping my work life and personal life in sync are gone, I love it, and my iPhone even more than I did.
Steve, I love ya like a brother, 'cos you are obviously paying attention. Have you hired a bunch of geniuses to engineer this stuff, and licensed only me most useful stuff from Microsoft? It sure seems you like you must have. IT JUST WORKS.
What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right.
Now, all we need is cut and paste.
Warmest Regards,
memesmith
Steve-
I dont know you personally. If I did, Id probably have your email addy, which would allow me to address these issues privately. But I dont. So apologies in advance for the "public display of affection" Im about to deliver.
Dude, everyone admires your passion, vision, out-of-the-box thinking, and up until now, youre uncompromising drive and commitment to not unleash steaming piles of cr@p on an unsuspecting public. You seem to really get that people want stuff that works.
Steve, buddy, pal I need exactly three things from a mobile telephone in order for my life to work:
1. I need a mobile handset that will reliably make and complete telephone calls.
2. I need my calendar.
3. I need my contacts.
Oh I also want email and webrowsing.
I use a Mac at home and a PC at work. I know that isnt your fault, but its reality for most of us that dont work at Apple. My wife needs to be able to add appointments and contacts on my home Mac; I need those updated appointments and contacts in my phone. I just freakin do. You do OK in this regard when I only use Apple products.
I need to be able to add appointments and contacts on my work PC; I need those updated appointments and contacts in my phone. I just freakin do.
Firmware 2.0 allows me to do this, even though my employer "doesn't support active sync". My guess is that maybe as many as 10 million or so people in the same predicament I am, would have their life unmaginably improved by using Firmware 2.0 on their iPhone. I love my Mac, and now the headaches involved in keeping my work life and personal life in sync are gone, I love it, and my iPhone even more than I did.
Steve, I love ya like a brother, 'cos you are obviously paying attention. Have you hired a bunch of geniuses to engineer this stuff, and licensed only me most useful stuff from Microsoft? It sure seems you like you must have. IT JUST WORKS.
What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right. What happened? You got it right.
Now, all we need is cut and paste.
Warmest Regards,
memesmith
What was that (^^^) supposed to achieve?
Thread starter makes a hell of a point, the iPhone should be able to be plugged into multiple iTunes PCs and able to do the same stuff at home as you can do at work. this device has grown beyond an iPod, it needs the leashes taken off. I started my mobile me account today at work, it erased my contacts and calendar on my phone, and until I get home I cannot restore them. I read it would do this, but I want to try it out. I should be able to back up my phone on multiple PCs not just the one at home. DRM is on the music for a reason, we don't need the DRM on the whole device.
FWIW, the OP may be in the same situation I am in. My work uses IE, I cannot install Firefox because the computers are locked down, and the only sync option I have is to outlook exchange, but only with a blackberry.
Now MobileMe would never get past our web filters even if it was compatible (no personal email access at work) so for me it's irrelevant, but if you can't change your computers (and if you work for a very large corporation chances are you can't) you're stuck out of MobileMe.
Whether or not you like how the OP presented his complaint, he does have a valid one. MobileMe is NOT perfect for many PC users, sadly.
If you work in a place like that then it seems pretty clear that the iPhone isn't for you anyway. I'd like to install a hammock in my office, my work won't let me so does that mean I should get annoyed with hammock makers?
it was supposed to show that though my situation is pretty similar to the OP's, for me the iPhone does "just work"
Um. For starters, I didn't intend my post to be a complaint about my workplace, just a comment to back up the OP. Not everyone can use MobileMe on their work PCs, so his frustration cannot be totally fixed by using it. That was all I was trying to say.
For the record, the iPhone is my personal device precisely because my work is so locked down. I wouldn't bitch to IT about not supporting it, because I know they only support blackberries. So I don't bother to worry about the iPhone being a "business" device and solely use it to manage my personal email and communication when I am at work and don't want to share my personal business with my corporate email.
I didn't mean to imply my situation was just like the OP's, just that he might not be in a position to easily use MobileMe. I don't think my defending his central thesis required that kind of response from you.
Hmmm, now if you had synched MobileMe with your Mac like they tell you to do, then all of your calendar, contacts, etc. would have been on your MM account and all of your stuff wouldn't have been deleted from your phone. So it really does work the way it's supposed to, you just have to follow their directions when you set it up.
Just tell them to unblock me.com
Don't say to support an iPhone just so you can use calendar.
FWIW, I think your situations are quite a bit different.
The OP seems to be stating that there's no way to reliably sync an iPhone's calendars/contacts with a Windows machine. (He says "You completely fail at this, regardless of which products I use.")
He also seems to want to be able to sync multiple machines' worth of calendars/contacts on his iPhone. I guess combined? IIRC, the iPhone will not allow you to do this.
But even if Apple came out with some Windows software that fixed the OPs Windows syncing issues (which is weird, because I haven't heard of many issues syncing with Outlook on Windows), and an iTunes/iPhone update that allowed the iPhone to handle multiple computers worth of calendar/contacts, the OP's problems would be solved, but you'd still be in the same spot you were (because of your employers decision to not allow you to install any software on your work machine).
I don't see any solution for your situation, without your employers changing their position.
I don't have a Mac. I have a PC without Outlook 2007 or a calendar program. last I read iCal does not run on Vista.
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