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An unfortunate incident... YIKES!

Geez that's really horrible and sad. Now the parents are going to go through life thinking "why us" - why did they have to have a son die by, of all things, a car crashing through the roof.
 
Holy mother of pearl. Hit a curb over a fence between trees, did a cartwheel and then into the roof

yeah that kid was just going to die that night, Grim Reaper seems to have had it out for him.
 
iGary said:
Vehicular manslaughter and DUI.
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That's a given, but I was thinking along the lines of a wrongful death suit brought by the family. This would be one of the few times I'd agree with bringing such a suit.

Drunk driving is 100% preventable, and there is zero excuse for doing it.
 
Abstract said:
Ah damn, she's only in the hospital "in serious condition." Why couldn't she have died too? :rolleyes:
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Drunk drivers never seem to die, no matter how horrific the accidents they cause. Guess their extreme drunken state relaxes them so much that they take much less damage. Plus she had the car to protect her, whereas that poor kid had nothing.

That woman must be locked away for a very, very, very long time.
 
And I hope they accidentally put her in a garbage compactor instead of a "cell." Oops.

Sorry, but I've known 2 people who have died because of alcohol + driving: because of drink driving, the other because of a drink driver.

Just because someone wants to be stupid for a night, doesn't mean other people should pay the price.
 
In one psych class I took, we watched a brief snippet of a TV special about drunk drivers. The ironic part? Many juries give much more lenient punishments than what could be doled out because they attest to understanding what it's like to "have a drink or two and think you're okay to drive." :eek:

It's really quite sad.

And Silencio, I think you're right. They (drunk drivers) probably are a lot more relaxed and could receive lesser impact because of that. But keep in mind, cars are designed w/ the driver seat being the most protected. That's another factor.
 
Gosh..that was soo sad..poor family..i hate drunk drivers they are so lame..why do people even drink in the first place:confused: :( :confused:
 
First, this is a terrible tragedy and I hope the driver (if she was drunk) spends the rest of her life in prison.

With that being said, I'd like to share my opinion on drunk driving. Most people will find this offensive. I'll probably be personally attacked, banned from the forum, etc. People might stop me on the street and pelt me with rotten fruits and vegetables, but I've gotta say it....

I don't think drunk driving is morally wrong.

It is stupid and dangerous and I think the punishment should be severe if you damage someone's property or injure someone while drunk. If, on the other hand, the police pull you over for a traffic offense (speeding, swerving, etc.) and discover that you're legally drunk (but you haven't caused any sort of accident) then I think a sensible punishment is an impounded car and a night in the drunk tank to sober up (or possibly just a ride home instead).

Where I live, if you have two beers in an hour and get behind the wheel and are "caught" and convicted you are subject to a mandatory 10 day jail sentence and probably around $5000 in fines. That is absolutely insane.

To me it seems like you're being punished for a "pre-crime" like in "Minority Report". You haven't actually had an accident or hurt anyone, but you've increased the likelihood by some amount which is in itself somehow a crime. Maybe gun owners should be forced to pick up trash on the side of the highway since they've increased the likelihood of someone being shot.

I've seen statistics that say more accidents are caused by drowsiness than drunkenness yet I've never heard of anyone being charged with driving while sleepy. They're both equally preventable. Hmmm. Could there be an underlying social agenda? (Or maybe it's just harder to prove drowsiness so it's still legal... for now.)

In the large metro area where I live there were on the order of 100 DUIs per year in the early 80's. Now there are several thousand per year. (Sorry, I'm too lazy to look up the numbers again). Are there more irresponsible drunks per capita? Or have lawyers and politicians discovered it's very profitable to criminalize the populace? I wouldn't be surprised to find out that many of the members of MADD were defense attorneys.

I'll stop ranting now, but for the record:
-- I've never had a DUI (or owned a gun)
-- I generally get a good nights sleep
-- One of my friends was killed by a drunk driver in 1998

Thanks for listening
 
Silencio said:
Drunk drivers never seem to die, no matter how horrific the accidents they cause. Guess their extreme drunken state relaxes them so much that they take much less damage. Plus she had the car to protect her, whereas that poor kid had nothing.

That woman must be locked away for a very, very, very long time.
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The body doesn't enter shock when it is intoxicated enough. Shock is a major killer after accidents-- not shock as in 'oh, wow!' but the kind of shock where the body has suffered so much damage that it enters various methods of survival. [Sidenote: Ecstacy works by tricking your body into thinking that it is dying, and the body summons emergency energy to make a last-ditch effort to survive.] Driving while drunk means that the body doesn't enter shock, and is more receptive to the emergency personnel who arrive on-scene to take care of the injured.
 
nerd said:
I've seen statistics that say more accidents are caused by drowsiness than drunkenness yet I've never heard of anyone being charged with driving while sleepy. They're both equally preventable.
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Vehicular manslaughter is the charge for when someone dies when they are hit by a vehicle. Vehicular assault is when someone is hit by a car, but are not killed.

A DUI charge can be applied to any foreign substance that impairs the body's ability to think. It just so happens that most illegal substances impair the body's ability to think.

And I agree, both are equally preventable. They both should not be allowed to happen. But just because people drive when they are tired does not mean that they should be allowed to drive while drunk. (Two wrongs don't make a right.)
 
nerd said:
I've seen statistics that say more accidents are caused by drowsiness than drunkenness yet I've never heard of anyone being charged with driving while sleepy. They're both equally preventable.
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Yes, I've read statistics that say drowsy drivers are just as likely to get into an accident as an inebriated driver.

One teacher I had said something to the effect of; "I'd rather my driver be drunk than fall asleep at the wheel-- a slow reaction time is better than no reaction." :eek:
 
puckhead193 said:
that sucks...
(theirs a Milton in Florida. I only know of milton MA :confused: :rolleyes:)
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There's duplicates everywhere. I still thinks its funny when I run a search or something and see theres a Tampa, KS also. I also see that with Odessa too (Odessa ,FL, TX, and Ukraine) Lots of US towns and cities got named after cities immigrants came from way back when the country was young.

Back on topic, that lady deserves anything bad that comes her way. I wish the penalties in Florida were worse. A co-worker was busted twice in a month for DUI. He was whining about all the fines and not being able to have a license for years.. I told him tough s*** and that he was an idiot. Shouldn't have done it.
 
nerd said:
To me it seems like you're being punished for a "pre-crime" like in "Minority Report". You haven't actually had an accident or hurt anyone, but you've increased the likelihood by some amount which is in itself somehow a crime. Maybe gun owners should be forced to pick up trash on the side of the highway since they've increased the likelihood of someone being shot.
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Not sure how I feel about this. Not stopping a drunk driver is like letting your toddler play with a fork near an electrical socket. Maybe nothing will happen. Then again...

I've seen statistics that say more accidents are caused by drowsiness than drunkenness yet I've never heard of anyone being charged with driving while sleepy.
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I have personally been pulled over then escorted to a rest stop a few miles down the road when I was younger and stupider. He really couldn't make me, but he was right to do it.

-- One of my friends was killed by a drunk driver in 1998
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So sorry. I lost a good friend in 1993 when she got in the car with a drunk driver. He survived with a few scratches.
 
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