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I agree. When the FB app first started doing this my first thought was because they could track how long we look at the page and what we do with it.
It’s exactly why they do it.

On iPad now as well it opens the browser in a tiny window in the centre of the screen.
 
This is in part why Apple only allows its own browser… a browser can be greatly abused from a privacy and security perspective.

Errr, incorrect. Apple allows many browser apps and does not restrict the user. There are in fact, thousands of browsers.

What you meant to say is, they force all browsers to use the same rendering engine, WebKit. That might seem like splitting hairs, but the difference in terminology explains exactly how this privacy exploit works - which is to say it’s NOT using the iOS browser, it is using Instagram as the web browser. Yes, the instagram browser is running the same engine underneath, but effectively they can run code on top of the engine as they please, and- as they in fact, do.
 
It's kinda funny that this article (like every other article on MacRumors) has a "Share on Facebook" button:

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Anyone who regularly follows tech news is not surprised by this. The rest of the world probably would be, if they weren’t already driven to distraction, defeat, and complacency by the rule of corporations and plutocratic oligarchies.
 
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Obvious. I'll get a random ad that happens to coincide with something I was looking at earlier.
 
I assumed they do do this already. the way links

I don't think they do though. Not in the way fb does. Apple makes their money on iPhones and 30% app store cut, not selling our info.
They don't "sell your info". They sell aggregated user profile data ("50 year old + male Miami dolphins fan") to advertisers, same as apple.
 
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Apple could, sure, but we’d know about it if they were. Project Zero would have already publicized bug reports, and you wouldn’t hear the end of it from Android users. Plus, privacy seems to be where Apple thinks it has a definite advantage over Google, so I doubt they’d sell out for some ad revenue. (Where even does Apple serve ads? The App Store? In terms of Apple and advertising [the real money, at least supposedly*, in tech surveillance], Apple is more of a buyer of advertising than a seller of advertising.)

* I suspect that all of Facebook’s and Google’s data isn’t actually all that useful, and that we, as a society, and especially venture capitalists overvalue the predictive value of personal data. Certainly, network television advertising rates still go for far more than the race to the bottom that is online ad impressions. And Google has a hard time keeping mainstream advertisers happy with YouTube, hence all of Google’s concerns about monetization on YouTube. Clearly, the YouTube offering just isn’t as appealing to advertisers as the network TV offering, and who even watches network TV anymore?
I think people assume that Apple is doing all this stuff just like FB and Google, but doing it secretly. But that's nonsense. AAPL is a public company who discloses the source of their revenue. They can't just have a secret advertising or data brokerage business, because it would be a massive SEC violation and (as you say) would be a massive own-goal in the face of their whole privacy positioning in contrast to FB and Google.
 
Even in safari or another main browser on the iphone and even in pictures on other apps like telegram. It’s horrible how tracked are we…
 
Sad that many general consumers won't even realize the difference between the in-app browsers and their default browser. I think this should be included in the tracking opt-out... forcing the default browser.
That would be great. Almost every app wants to keep you in there app (because ‘engagement’ seems to be the only thing that matters anymore). No thanks.
 
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Why's it always a surprise to find out when somethings free, you're the product
 
I always figured that was the case when using any in-app browser, that's why I opt to open any of those links in the actual browser, not inside the app's browser.
Well, if you use the app to “Open in Safari/browser” guess what? They have you and you will continue to see the same ads or similar. I think they would even know if you went to Safari and manually typed in the site, because all those sites sell their data to Meta, which then cross-references when the add was delivered to your social media app and then they can tell you were interested. This is why when I go to a new site, I’m willing to spend two minutes clicking all but the necessary/required cookies off. It may not make much difference, but if I make Meta’s algorithm just 0.001% less effective, I consider it a good day.
 
Why's it always a surprise to find out when somethings free, you're the product

(Sigh.)

So, this thread has a lot of people echoing this particular sentiment in one way or another. It's almost as if people are complaining that the study was conducted at all, let alone that this article was written about it. But just to offer a counter-argument on that point: Not every reader who browses articles on tech journals (like this one) is as tech savvy as us geeks who wade into the choppy waters of the comment section.

That is to say, this work wasn't really done for the benefit of the smaller percentage of us who can intuitively figure this crap out for ourselves; it was done for the larger percentage of readers who almost never comment, and who are largely coming here to increase their knowledge about a given topic. Hopefully, reading this article helps them to accomplish that goal, and causes a few more people to be just a little bit more careful when using Meta (and Google) properties.

So give Sami (and Felix) a break, guys... they're just trying to make the world a better place. M'kay?
 
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Well, if you use the app to “Open in Safari/browser” guess what? They have you and you will continue to see the same ads or similar. I think they would even know if you went to Safari and manually typed in the site, because all those sites sell their data to Meta, which then cross-references when the add was delivered to your social media app and then they can tell you were interested. This is why when I go to a new site, I’m willing to spend two minutes clicking all but the necessary/required cookies off. It may not make much difference, but if I make Meta’s algorithm just 0.001% less effective, I consider it a good day.
Of course they will know whether you opened the link in a separate browser, from their app. Of course they will still follow you around the internet. That’s not the point.

The point is that if you click on a link to a shop, open and continue to browse/login/purchase in their in-app browser, the app can potentially read your password/credit card details. Screw text selections, etc - that’s weak sauce.
 
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Of course they will know whether you opened the link in a separate browser, from their app. Of course they will still follow you around the internet. That’s not the point.

The point is that if you click on a link to a shop, open and continue to browse/login/purchase in their in-app browser, the app can potentially read your password/credit card details. Screw text selections, etc - that’s weak sauce.
Of course, Facebook is not likely to actually use such information (sure, they’re definitely disreputable in how they use user data, but they’re not out and out scammers, they’re not gonna steal your account or password or money, can you imagine the criminal and civil trial if they did?), but it may well inadvertently be transferred in their telemetry or stored in some sort of insecure system, and there’s always the possibility of cross site scripting flaws that could possibly exploit Facebook’s tracking beacon and expose usernames, passwords, and credit cards. And passwords/credit card info could easily be accidentally vacuumed up depending on how this tracker works. I suppose there’s also always the possibility of an inside job, of a developer going rogue.
 
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I thought we all knew this already? That's the reason most of those apps do that in browser pop up sheet thing.
 
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Well, if you use the app to “Open in Safari/browser” guess what? They have you and you will continue to see the same ads or similar. I think they would even know if you went to Safari and manually typed in the site, because all those sites sell their data to Meta, which then cross-references when the add was delivered to your social media app and then they can tell you were interested. This is why when I go to a new site, I’m willing to spend two minutes clicking all but the necessary/required cookies off. It may not make much difference, but if I make Meta’s algorithm just 0.001% less effective, I consider it a good day.
Apart from all the impotent consternation from it would engender from the anti-walled-garden, side-load-all-the-things crowd, why should there even be third-party in-app browsers? Why shouldn't Apple just require that any in-app web links be opened in a Safari sandbox instance within the app? Hell, why not sandbox that Safari instance from the app itself? ....allowing only approved hooks like authentication and such. What is the point of all this "Do not track" stuff if in-app browsers are wide open and the user is not giving informed consent?
 
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Apart from all the impotent consternation from it would engender from the anti-walled-garden, side-load-all-the-things crowd, why should there even be third-party in-app browsers? Why shouldn't Apple just require that any in-app web links be opened in a Safari sandbox instance within the app? Hell, why not sandbox that Safari instance from the app itself? ....allowing only approved hooks like authentication and such. What is the point of all this "Do not track" stuff if in-app browsers are wide open and the user is not giving informed consent?
For one, if you’re a different browser than Safari, you have to use the WebView view instead of the SafariWebView view, the latter uses Safari UI chrome and the former doesn’t. Even if there were alternative browsers, consider a browser like iCabMobile. iCab already uses WebKit on the desktop (and the system framework version of WebKit, not some version of WebKit included in the app bundle). Using the older WebView class is the iOS equivalent of using the system framework version of WebKit. If you’re writing an email app that displays HTML email, you’ll need the WebView class. If you’re writing a text editor with HTML preview support, you’ll need the WebView class. There are legitimate reasons to do so, it’s just that Facebook and Instagram technically have illegitimate reasons (though they’re also grandfathered in because they had in-app browsers using the WebView class before SafariWebView was introduced).
 
The number of people that don't realize social media apps on their phones are a huge invasion of privacy truly boggles the mind. I suppose that's why their whole economic model works...
"If the service is free, you're the product."
 
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Ist must be nice to own a platform that allows you instantly blackmail anyone that comes in your way. Politicians aren't stupid so there is no REAL pushback whatsoever ....
 
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I’m glad I never got on the social media train… no Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Meta, etc, etc.
As others already mentioned - then you just get tracked by all your friends who have this crap installed ... great stuff.
 
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