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As Jobs himself has told his Biographe, Cook is not a product person. You can see that as his entire time as CEO, he had no tent pole.
 
The wearables were just as disruptive as the iPhone. Although it seems tgst is not your opinion.
It's against my opinion, yes. But it's also factually untrue. Last year alone, the iPhone sold something like 172 million more units than their watch.
 
Definitionally we are not aligned over what "disruptive" means and hence we don't agree.
When I think of things that are successfully disruptive, I think of products or things that fundamentally change the way human beings live their lives. iTunes and iPod did that (when they came out, CD's were the dominant way people consumed and listened to music). iPhone did that (when it launched, BlackBerry and phones like BlackBerry were king).

But Apple Watch? By the time that came to market, the wrist watch had already been replaced years prior by--yup, you guessed it--smart phones, thanks in large part to the iPhone itself.

So what did Apple Watch disrupt? What products did it render extinct (or near extinct)?
 
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When I think of things that are successfully disruptive, I think of products or things that fundamentally change the way human beings live their lives. iTunes and iPod did that (when they came out, CD's were the dominant way people consumed and listened to music). iPhone did that (when it launched, BlackBerry and phones like BlackBerry were king).
iphone was popular, but it didn't change the way people lived their lives, imo. And vendors did rush to copy some of the paradigms, but essentially it was still a cell phone in 2007.
But Apple Watch? By the time that came to market, the wrist watch had already been replaced years prior by--yup, you guessed it--smart phones, thanks in large part to the iPhone itself.
EKG, fall detection and maybe some other innovations. Didn't change the way people lived their lives? Maybe not all people, but to deny that the EKG wasn't an event changer for a certain segment of the population....
So what did Apple Watch disrupt? What products did it render extinct (or near extinct)?
(See above for comments) Apple watch supposedly killed the Swiss Watch industry. Blackberry died because of mismangement, not because of the iphone. (That is not to stay, that Apple didn't show the world how a keyboardless phone could operate)
 
iphone was popular, but it didn't change the way people lived their lives, imo. And vendors did rush to copy some of the paradigms, but essentially it was still a cell phone in 2007.
I think in those terms, I'd agree.

Just kind of idly thinking, back when Bill Gates was MS CEO, I remember him saying his vision was a computer on every desk. At the time that was a pretty disruptive vision, I think.

Then Steve Jobs came along and, whether he meant to or not, changed the paradigm to everyone having a computer on their person. At the time the iPhone was released the smart phones on the market were somewhat limited, right? The first iPhone was also a bit locked, but when the App Store launched it really turned into a disruptive force, so much that desktop computers now really aren't as much of a thing as they once were.

To be clear, I also agree with you about the Apple Watch. I put off buying one until the S3 and it really did change things. Going to a cellular S4 meant I could even leave my phone at home if I wanted. Again, that's what I'd consider disruptive.
 
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I think in those terms, I'd agree.

Just kind of idly thinking, back when Bill Gates was MS CEO, I remember him saying his vision was a computer on every desk. At the time that was a pretty disruptive vision, I think.

Then Steve Jobs came along and, whether he meant to or not, changed the paradigm to everyone having a computer on their person. At the time the iPhone was released the smart phones on the market were somewhat limited, right? The first iPhone was also a bit locked, but when the App Store launched it really turned into a disruptive force, so much that desktop computers now really aren't as much of a thing as they once were.

To be clear, I also agree with you about the Apple Watch. I put off buying one until the S3 and it really did change things. Going to a cellular S4 meant I could even leave my phone at home if I wanted. Again, that's what I'd consider disruptive.
All good and fair points.
 
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iphone was popular, but it didn't change the way people lived their lives, imo. And vendors did rush to copy some of the paradigms, but essentially it was still a cell phone in 2007.

EKG, fall detection and maybe some other innovations. Didn't change the way people lived their lives? Maybe not all people, but to deny that the EKG wasn't an event changer for a certain segment of the population....

(See above for comments) Apple watch supposedly killed the Swiss Watch industry. Blackberry died because of mismangement, not because of the iphone. (That is not to stay, that Apple didn't show the world how a keyboardless phone could operate)

Sometimes, the beliefs we want to be true are so near and dear to our psychology that they actually hinder our ability to see the truth.
 
Sometimes, the beliefs we want to be true are so near and dear to our psychology that they actually hinder our ability to see the truth.
That sounds a bit unfair, to me anyway.

When I consider the Apple Watch, I can see the point about it being disruptive, for my life at least. Until the S3, the only other "smart" watch I had ever owned was one of those Casio calculator watches. Even at that since I had the GPS model I still had to have my phone on me. But when I went to the S4 it got to the point where I had a computer on my wrist which really opened the door to untethering myself from a phone. It was very Buck Rogers/Dick Tracy.

Perhaps the overall disruption is blunted somewhat by being something firmly in the Apple ecosystem, though I'd still agree that the addition of health features and such certainly changed the way I look at watches.
 
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