Analysts couldn’t have been more wrong

[First Post G]

lol I never said it wasn't "20x more secure" But I bet touch ID wouldn't let the brother get in 😉

But still 20x more people than Face ID let’s in...

 

[FelixDerKater]

FakeID if it unlocks for someone else?

 

[macfacts]

Looking back at all the analyst predictions and rumors regarding the iPhone X, I just have to laugh. Particularly when it comes to FaceID. They portrayed it as “Plan B”, chosen as late as three months ago, rushed to manufacturing, and then “de-tuned” to relieve production bottlenecks.

What a joke.

It’s quite obvious now that Apple worked long and hard to perfect FaceID. It’s brilliantly implemented, and has many, many advantages over TouchID, which was great in its own right.

The password security on my phone is practically invisible now. I no longer have to move my thumb to the sensor when unlocking, or launching a bank app, or sliding a notification. Wet or gloved hands are no longer an issue. Sure it’s not perfect, but it’s really really good.

There is no way in hell that Apple or anyone could have thrown this hardware and software together at the 11th hour.

Between this and the dire predictions of low stock levels, Apple had the last laugh over the analysts this year.

No one said faceID was started 3 months ago. They said the decision to use faceID or touchID was made 3 months ago. If you don't believe that, then why was the iPhone X not released in September?

 

[kirk.vino]

No one said faceID was started 3 months ago. They said the decision to use faceID or touchID was made 3 months ago. If you don't believe that, then why was the iPhone X not released in September?

Obviously shows that there is zero knowledge about engineering lol
Most likely Face ID was ready more than a year ago. They had to polish the software as well. The reason why it was launched in September was clearly stated many times: it was hard to manufacture these new Face ID modules. The yield rate was very low. They needed some extra time to manufacture enough units for launch.

 

[Kallistel]

This is what I never understood when someone was seriously worried about that scenario.

So many people here were concerned about a thief grabbing your phone, shoving it in your face, and running away with it... for what reason? Might as well just grab the phone and run, and skip the risky FaceID unlock attempt at that point.

I guess one scenario could be a mugger/robber forcing you to unlock the phone with FaceID. However the same robber could force you to use touch ID, or even be able to really convince you to tell them your passcode. So not necessarily any less safe on the just unlocking MO part.

 

[mcdj]

I love how America is all for keeping a certain family of devices around that has caused irreparable damage countless times over the course of hundreds of years, but if something like Face ID fails a few times, it’s immediately branded insecure unreliable beta garbage.

 

[MEJHarrison]

Face IS is a 3 step process.

...

Secondly, a twin can fool face id, but it ain't fooling touch id. Oh yea, I know, Apple did warn people about that, but does that mean it shouldn't count? Lol of course not.

Touch ID 2
Face ID 0

Third and finally, any prankster can grab your phone and shove it in your face before you even realise what's going on.

Touch ID 3
Face ID 0

Touch ID not only wins, it wins by a canter.

Point one. Sadly I don't have my X yet. Yet from all I've heard, this whole business about counting step is nonsense. That was my prediction from the start. Since I don't have an X, I can't weigh in.

Point two. I unlocked my girlfriend's daughter's 6s. With my fingerprint. Absolutely no blood relation between us.

Point three. As this is similar to the old "they'll cut your thumb off" argument and that went nowhere, I'm not too worried. In all my years of having an iPhone, no one has ever tried to take mine and run. Nor have I seen it happen to anyone. Nor have I heard of it happening to anyone. Can't say it hasn't happened. I'm sure it has. But I don't believe the X is going to skew the stats. It's a non-issue.

 

[inkahauts]

Face IS is a 3 step process.

Step 1: touch or pick up your phone
Step 2: look at your phone, even if for a millisecond
Step 3: swipe up.

Even if the second step does not count because it's almost instantaneous, you still need to either tap and then swipe, or swipe if you're holding it.

Touch id requires one press of the home button. Be it on a table or holding it, it's one press.

So in what universe does that make it inferior to Face ID? As far as I'm concerned, one step is more seamless than a 2 or 3 step process.

Touch ID 1
Face ID 0

Secondly, a twin can fool face id, but it ain't fooling touch id. Oh yea, I know, Apple did warn people about that, but does that mean it shouldn't count? Lol of course not.

Touch ID 2
Face ID 0

Third and finally, any prankster can grab your phone and shove it in your face before you even realise what's going on.

Touch ID 3
Face ID 0

Touch ID not only wins, it wins by a canter.

I wondered too, and then I got mine. I can’t ever fathom going back to Touch ID now that I have Face ID. Once you have it you will never go back, and your entire argument is just shot to pieces.

And seriously, the last ridiculousness... they can grab your finger and put it on your phone just as easily, so get real...

You have to touch or pick up your phone with Touch ID too, so there much is no difference there.

You are going to be looking at your phone anyway, how is that possibly an argument?

And I have to swipe or press the home button as well with Touch ID since I always have it show me notifications anyway... Face ID is so much faster.

I have no twin. Do you?

And if a prankster, not a thief grabs my phone, I’m getting my phone back anyway. This sounds like a teenage excuse, because who takes a phone and taunts people with it after they are adults?

 

[Oridus]

Face IS is a 3 step process.

Step 1: touch or pick up your phone
Step 2: look at your phone, even if for a millisecond
Step 3: swipe up.

Even if the second step does not count because it's almost instantaneous, you still need to either tap and then swipe, or swipe if you're holding it.

Touch id requires one press of the home button. Be it on a table or holding it, it's one press.

So in what universe does that make it inferior to Face ID? As far as I'm concerned, one step is more seamless than a 2 or 3 step process.

Touch ID 1
Face ID 0

Secondly, a twin can fool face id, but it ain't fooling touch id. Oh yea, I know, Apple did warn people about that, but does that mean it shouldn't count? Lol of course not.

Touch ID 2
Face ID 0

Third and finally, any prankster can grab your phone and shove it in your face before you even realise what's going on.

Touch ID 3
Face ID 0

Touch ID not only wins, it wins by a canter.

Touch ID is inferior when it comes to using siri hands free in the car for notifications that require your phone to be unlocked.

Don't have to take my hands off the wheel any more to read text messages and my phone can be locked.

As far as efficiency of FaceID vs TouchID, how would you know first hand. Judging from your posts, you definitely don't have an X, and won't be getting one. Please tell me how you can compare them without even having a day's experiences with FaceID.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Exactly. Even if by some strange event someone would steal your phone and stick it in front of your face to unlock it, what are they going to do with it? Read your texts or email? Cant use Apple Pay. They want to fully reset, good luck without your icloud password. Apple has pretty much made stealing their phone not worth the effort.

Someone tried this with me at work already and it wouldnt unlock.