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Analysts Predict Q2 2014 Decline in iPad Sales, Slight Increase in iPhone Sales
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How is a 3D phone a game changer? Didn't HTC already make one a few years ago? Are they still selling it?
Well, thanks for your great post. And yes, it's time to realize that the most valuable public company in the world can't grow at the same percentage forever. The reason is obvious for anyone that has at least the 4th grade, and people shouldn't act like this.
It also has nothing to do with Apple's philosophy, and attention to detail, etc. Clearly the innovation pace and products are better than ever. It's just that is easy to grow 100 % from one potato to 2 potatoes than 50 % from 1 billion potatoes to 1.5% potatoes.
But like I said, most analysts aren't that bright and their knowledge is far from advanced or even "in line" with most professionals.
It's uncanny how this is constantly posted in analyst threads - specifically ones that predict not-so-rosy pictures.
If you tuned out, why are you posting? Why did you even bother hitting the "reply" button? How do you even know what the analyst said if you tuned out?
There is no negative prediction, one product goes down another goes up. But I'm on the same boat, analysts predict is just fluff and a waste of time reading. I'm glad he posted something otherwise if no one did I'd think you're all idiots buying into it. If you want predictions I hear fortune tellers are great too, have fun!
Analysts...
I predict warm weather in the northern hemisphere for some months to come...followed by cooler weather.
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Well it does if those on contract from the first four iPhones still upgrade on that cycle...but I doubt that's the case.
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What, like how Windows Phone would overtake Android by 2014?
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At what point do you decide something has peaked, however? These analysts are typically wrong until their right...just like a broken clock.
I predict warm weather in the northern hemisphere for some months to come...followed by cooler weather.
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Well it does if those on contract from the first four iPhones still upgrade on that cycle...but I doubt that's the case.
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What, like how Windows Phone would overtake Android by 2014?
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At what point do you decide something has peaked, however? These analysts are typically wrong until their right...just like a broken clock.
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And yet, they get paid very well to write their very wrong comments about Apple while people like you are I post our very right comments about Apple for free.
What I've noticed around here is that analysts who write positive things about Apple are lauded, quoted, cheered on, etc and analysts who write negative things are stupid, know nothing, perpetually wrong, etc. Sometimes it's the same analyst who is apparently shifting from being genius to moron to genius again.
Again, they are paid to write their comments about Apple. That doesn't automatically make them more right than those who write counterpoint for free but someone thinks their views are valuable enough to pay them for them.
I don't know, we are at the point that we're arguing what is the most efficient way to open an app or view things at a glance. Everything else about every tablet would be the same if the performance were completely in line. You could argue about multitasking but I would never use a tablet for work and I own two Surface 2's.
In the end, my iPad has better performance in a lighter package with longer battery life and more tablet optimized apps. I really don't give a flying ******* what the spacing or size of the button I press to open that app is, my time on the home screen is less than a few seconds.
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They really aren't paid very well, at least not as well as you'd expect.
I totally agree with that. It's hard to understand that they have not optimized IOS for the iPad yet..... They had 3 years to come up with something more fitting.
Sad but true, obsessed with profit taking Apple is no longer the agile innovator. Content with sitting back counting their profits, they seem to be content. Just like the large corporations like General Motors, Apple is slow to respond to the market. Yet they have gotten away with it because their customers buy the logo. Apples riding on the coat tails of the former CEO's accomplishments.
If it is done right, it could be a game changer, or at least something significant. After all, there were touch screen phones before 2007. The iPhone was the first one done right.
Literal, no. Implied, from the way I read it, absolutely. There is nothing in the headline to suggest this particular "decline" is not a big deal or routine.
This is just wrong. Not the numbers perhaps, but the characterization of analysts as "professionals" vs. "amateurs." The correct distinction is affiliated vs. nonaffiliated. The affiliated analysts work for investment banks and brokerage houses. The unaffiliated analysts work for publications or themselves. Anyone who is paid for their work is a professional.
Please continue your thoughts and explain why 3D will change everything in the mobile space. I don't understand myself so since you "get it" please share with us who don't.
And there is nothing in the headline to suggest this particular "Decline" is a big deal or it is not routine, it is just what the analysts are expecting, nothing more.
Or Apple needs a strong, secondary revenue source as Google has. Right now they pretty much depend on hardware sales, which is cyclical and very ruthless where photocopiers like Samsung are always nipping at Apple's heels. I think Apple is too narrowly-focused on consumer hardware, and needs to figure out and target services as Google and Amazon are, both real and in the cloud.
Growth = innovation, and if they are no longer a growth company, then they are no longer innovative and they might as well shut down operations, because innovation is their core value. But I don't think that is the case. I think we'll see a huge new product this year.
what is this obsession with a firms profits?.. it's rolled out over and over again... Maybe cos that's the only thing left to brag about.....
For what it's worth dont Samsung actually make more profit.. Do I care.. nope... It effects me as much as the guys banging on about it.. absolutely zero...
Here's two things Apple needs to do: one, quit providing guidance and two, stop providing sales figures. As far as I know the SEC does not require either of those things. Every quarter we hear Peter Oppenheimer go into excruciating detail about channel inventory and sell in and sell through. And for what? None of Apple's competitions provide sales details like that. Last quarter even though Apple met expectations on top and bottom line the stock tanked because iPhone sales figure wasn't what Wall Street expected and Q2 guidance wasn't great. If Google can get away with providing no guidance and most, if not all of Apple's competitors can get away with not provide sales figures then Apple should do the same. Wall Street doesn't get Apple anyway, so no point in providing more than the minimum necessary.
It's simple: If people are buying iPads to replace computers (which is what I see around me) then iPad sales are definitely not going to plateau. If people buy iPads as couch toys to play Angry Birds, then the "market saturation" mantra would be correct. But I have to tell you, I see more people using iPads as computers these days...including myself.
No dude, it doesn't matter at all... especially when people talk about Apple going out of business tomorrow morning.
Who cares about profit? It's all about having fun. And no, Samsung does not make more money than Apple has a public traded company.