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Wether that is still true in a few years remains to be seen, as it might end up similar to the PPC era were 5 fat years were followed with 5 years of stagnation (and Intel really getting their act together).

PPC stagnated because IBM lost interest. Additionally the Mac was in no way what it is today in terms of sales and market share. It was something of a niche for IBM.

Apple has been developing their own silicon for years now and has probably been working in this direction since the start—or close to it when it they realized how liberating it was to not deal on another vendor for their core technology.

Intel has evolved from the desktop and has always been really weak in the mobile space—not in terms of sales, but in terms of power efficiency. Their forays into power efficiency/embedded (Atom), graphics (everything from the old i740 to Iris), to a new instruction set (Itanium) have been mediocre to downright flops. Their market share and the x86 being a sort of de facto requirement have kept them on top far longer than they deserved to be.

The mobile market appears to have finally broken the "Wintel" stranglehold on things. I mean, in many ways it did years ago, but it appears this is going further and is finally making its way to actual computers.

Intel never really gets their act together. AMD beat them badly with the Athlon series and Intel simply used its size to beat that back. Intel even rushed out a 1.13GHz processor to "beat" AMD that had some serious issues. (And who can forget the Pentium 4 Netburst architecture that was basically what happens when a marketing team designs a processor to "win" the GHz race even if it means being terribly inefficient? Actually, seems like a lot of people forgot.) AMD even beat them to a 64-bit instruction set which is the set Intel is using now. They're just so huge and that's how they win when they need to.

I'm super excited about this and I don't think Intel is gonna get anything together. If anything, someone else is going to pick up ARM in a meaningful way (Nvidia?) for the PC market and maybe Intel is relegated to something very different than the CPU juggernaut we've all become used to.
 
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This is the most exciting thing Apple has done in some time. I have plenty of devices, but the Mac is what I spend most of my meaningful time on. I've really come to enjoy the iPad but it's still lacking in so many ways to be a "real" computer for me. (And for the love of Jobs, can we please get multiuser support on iPads? The friggin AppleTV has multiuser support but not the iPad? I cannot be the only parent or spouse who shares those machines.)

20 hours of battery life? Crazy awesome.

I'm curious about the 14" models and the potential rebirth of the 12" model. The 13.3 is all right but...

A fanless 12" machine with the M1 (or M2 by then) would be awesome. (Bonus points if it has TB ports on both sides. It's a small thing, but being able to plug in and charge from the left side is really, really nice for my setup.)
 
yea of course , i have developed on arm for over 2 years, large scale enterprise packet capture at line speed 40g.

intel spends half of its time moving data around registers , arm does not. its registers are far more capable. i can do the same on 32gb ram m6g instances with a decent ssd as i can on 256gb intel based m5 instances with decent ssd's.

arm can move data far quicker than intel , and when it falls back to ssd from cache misses it can recovery much quicker.

How does one land a job working so close to the silicon? I'm a web developer and I'm so bored, I'd love to do more low level stuff.
 
How does one land a job working so close to the silicon? I'm a web developer and I'm so bored, I'd love to do more low level stuff.
i did performance engineering for a bit , than moved into our arm transition team. there are alot of companies making the move. alot more than you would think.

the type of work im doing requires closer work to the architecture of the hardware. since packet capturing and inspection require very good memory management. our drivers are all custom built for the nic's, mainly to bypass the linux network stack limitations. recording data off the line and inspecting @ 40g you have no room for error or data gets truncated, dataloss = significant security risk to customers.

AWS has a full range of ARM instances now, companies are taking full advantage of them. as long as you have good enterprise linux skills (RHEL) , you can get into a company doing AWS arm transition.
 
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So what is the difference between invention and innovation then?

Here is how innovation has been used in economics which is what we are talking about here:

Innovation is the capacity to create more effective products, processes and business models to gain economic growth.
It is to take something that exist and make small changes to it or add something or find new methods of use to create something new out of the old.

Your dictionary definition looks more like invention and casual use of the word in common parlance.
Thanks for your response. Reading this both claims are actually valid after all. It really depends on the definition which is being used. The definition I was referring was taken from Websters Dictionary btw.

 
Ah! That must mean that all their articles and benchmarks of Apple tech must be skewed in favour of Apple then.

Anand definitely knows what he is talking about, but he has knowingly spun his narratives before. Best bet is to wait for all the owners to run benchmarks tests and arrive at your own conclusion.
 
Said the person who bought a Mac to run Windows because PCs are almost all crap instead of buying a Mac to run macOS.
Sometimes, You are forced to use certain windows only programs, very niche, with no alternative, computers, that work with other technical equipment. That worked wonderful with bootcamp and Macs. It won't with any emulating Rosetta crap which will never be real windows. Today I ordered 8 intel iMacs. These will last for 5-7 years, then, with no x86 iMac around, I will kiss Apple goodbye...
 
What on Earth did you not understand?
You said “a glorified iPad in a laptop enclosure”.

An iPad is a tablet computer running iOS and whose primary user interface is a touch screen.
Does the process of ”glorifying” an iPad involves making it run MacOS and change its primary user interface to a keyboard and a touchpad?
If the answer is yes, then “glorified” iPads have existed even before the iPad was invented.
That is what I didn’t understand.
 
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You may want to reread my post...

"It's faster than anything Intel (or AMD) they could have put in there with the same power restraints."

Which would be some low-power i3/5 variant.

Independent test may find the M1 2/3/5 or even 10times faster, but even if it was just x1.5 it would still be o.k. in my book.
Even then, the several fold speed increases comparisons for the MacBook Pro ones is with the i7 quad core variants. Final Cut and XCode have ~3x speed boost.
That’s just jaw dropping.
 
Its not exactly an innovation as in before there was no processor or SoC and now there is the M1.
Innovation is not strictly about a new product that has never existed before but how you improve an existing product in ways that have not been done before.

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I am no expert on processors, would it be possible to have multiple M1 chips built into one high powered system like a Mac Pro?
 
Well it looks like I'll be waiting a lot longer for a new Mac. I need 64Gb Ram.

I use my mac to orchestrate and compose music, and for that I use very large sample libraries ith lots of articulations. It doesn't matter what clever tricks you do with the RAM, when you need to play large amounts of sample data, you quickly run out of ram, and then you need to pull that data from storage....

I agree for many users/applications you will only need what the M1 cpu supplies, but there are many applications where you will ned a lot of RAM - no magic tricks will change that.....
 
I am no expert on processors, would it be possible to have multiple M1 chips built into one high powered system like a Mac Pro?
Possible, but would slow things down considerably compared to just adding extra cores, I think. And then you would have double all the other components on the SoC that you don't need to have double.
 
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