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AnandTech Calls Apple's Fastest CPU Core Claim for M1 'Extremely Plausible'
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All of the released ARM Macs are entry level Macs, including the 13" MBP. The new 13" Arm MBP replaced the 1.4 GHz 8th gen i5 models, not the 2.0 Ghz 10th gen models. Wikipedia tells me that the 8th gen models were only available in 8/16 GB variants. The 2.0 GHz 10th Gen Intel models are still there and still configurable to 32GB.
It's obvious that Apple is starting the transition with drop in replacements of their skus. I'd expect their next chip to support 32 GB of ram and replace the intel SKUs that also support that. The common complaints: 16 GB and only 2 thunderbolt ports (on the 13" MBP) are the same as the models they replaced...
I will note that the Mac Mini was a little different. As its ram wasn't soldered, it was configurable to 64 GB at all skus previously. Apple again kept the top Intel sku on the store and retained the ability for that one to scale to 64 GB. If you need more ram, the option is still there, and I expect it to remain until there is an equivalent ARM option.
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I’m a Web and App Developer..
Running 34 Tabs on Chrome (10 are YouTube)
Numbers, Apple Music, Xampp Server and Sublime Text 3 Open at the same time
I’m Running Catalina on 2009 MacMini 2.26Ghz C2D without metal support
With 6GB Ram DDR3 and 512GB Sata II SSD…..
Almost all the time I use Affinity Design too and Photoshop.
Yes… Outside US and Europe you need to work with what you have..
8GB or 16GB are more than 99% of the people need.
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if you don't believe...
Running 34 Tabs on Chrome (10 are YouTube)
Numbers, Apple Music, Xampp Server and Sublime Text 3 Open at the same time
I’m Running Catalina on 2009 MacMini 2.26Ghz C2D without metal support
With 6GB Ram DDR3 and 512GB Sata II SSD…..
Almost all the time I use Affinity Design too and Photoshop.
Yes… Outside US and Europe you need to work with what you have..
8GB or 16GB are more than 99% of the people need.
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if you don't believe...
My 3.33 GHz 6 core XEON 2010 Mac Pro w/ 64GB memory, 2TB SSD, 5TB of HD storage, AMD RX580 is impressed but still not threatened yet.
And I'm not all that impressed with Big Sur either. If I want my computer to look like a phone, I'll just use the phone instead.
I'll reassess my opinion after I see some real benchmarks.
I'm not sure there is any debate here. They compare against the lowest model so the x faster figure is the best possible - that is standard marketing, make you product look as good as possible without lying.
Still good though. 3x faster for the same money. If you previously went with the higher BTO CPU then the new system is still probably noticeably faster for less money.
I'm sure Apple don't want the general public trying to compare performance by looking at clock speed across Intel and Arm platforms.
Would be nice to know if the clock speed in the systems with a fan are faster than the Air, but we will know soon enough once the platforms are shipping.
Absolutely wait for real world tests. The hyperbolic posts talking about performance so far are speculation based on a few selected benchmarks.
As for being a glorified iPad, that is the point. For web browsing, email, word processing, etc. these macs will have adequate processing power and memory and longer battery life. Good enough with increased convenience always wins in this arena. It's been clear for years Apple does not want to participate in high end computing in any meaningful way. There's just not enough money in it.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is how much of that 8GB - or 16GB is reserved for the GPU.
I understand the concept of the Universal Memory that these chips use - where the CPU & GPU can all sip from the same RAM pool. But surely the GPU will still need frame buffers etc.
So how much will be left - on an 8GB chip - for your apps & data once the GPU has enough to be satisfied? 4GB? 6GB? Something else?
Maybe I'm missing the point somewhere...
How's that different from an Intel iGPU? That one also uses RAM for it's stuff as it lacks dedicated memory.
I'd say, "unified" means there is no fixed share for either. Both use the same pool. If it's exhausted, swap comes into play.
Can someone please to me in layman term how did Apple create such better chips than dedicated chip makers like AMD, Intel, ARM, and Qualcomm? I know about tweaking software with hardware, but you would think after all this time Windows would tweak to intel chips, or some linux variant, or Android on Snapdragon.
Plus, tweaking software with hardware can only go so far.
I think this was the plan all along to build their own chips after being let down by IBM PowerPC, Nvidia, and Intel lack of advancement I guess they said "fine, we will do it ourselves". It makes sense because somehow they were able to port the whole MacOS from Intel to Apple made ARM chips, which I guess it means they had this plan all along, or maybe OS X was a portable OS in the first place. idk.
Plus, tweaking software with hardware can only go so far.
Apple creating their own chips is a real head scratcher. Its such a big investment to design your own chips and way off what Apple does as a company, why not just install a 3rd party chip in your cellphone like you install 3rd party chip in your computers?!
I think this was the plan all along to build their own chips after being let down by IBM PowerPC, Nvidia, and Intel lack of advancement I guess they said "fine, we will do it ourselves". It makes sense because somehow they were able to port the whole MacOS from Intel to Apple made ARM chips, which I guess it means they had this plan all along, or maybe OS X was a portable OS in the first place. idk.
I guess the difference is that the RAM now all comes on the chip - whereas with iGPUs it uses separate RAM - with you can potentially upgrade.
Or Tiger Lake with the new Xe extension. But ok keep telling yourself whatever.
You cannot self upgrade RAM on MacBooks since years. With the M1 you can also choose the amount of RAM on purchase like with the Intel ones.
Just that the M1 tops out at 16GB right now, while Intel tops out at 32GB for the 13".
Yeah, it is user-replaceable in the iMac and MacMini (except the 2014). But Apple doesn't like it if you can upgrade your machine yourself. They want all the cash for overpriced components and have everything under their control.
Now they had the perfect chance to make the Macs completely un-upgradeable like an iPad or iPhone (or MacBook since 2016).
The Mac is now like an iPad or iPhone. You buy it, if it's broken or not fast enough anymore, you throw it away and buy a completely new one. Apple's wet dreams come true...
Just that the M1 tops out at 16GB right now, while Intel tops out at 32GB for the 13".
Yeah, it is user-replaceable in the iMac and MacMini (except the 2014). But Apple doesn't like it if you can upgrade your machine yourself. They want all the cash for overpriced components and have everything under their control.
Now they had the perfect chance to make the Macs completely un-upgradeable like an iPad or iPhone (or MacBook since 2016).
The Mac is now like an iPad or iPhone. You buy it, if it's broken or not fast enough anymore, you throw it away and buy a completely new one. Apple's wet dreams come true...
I dunno.....I had a 2006 mb with a core duo (32bit) and limited to 2gig of ram
Support for 32 bit was quickly dropped and ram quickly was increased in capacity in rev 2 machines.
Let's see, bought the 1984 128k Mac (first of the first), first airport base station, first iPod, first iPhone (got the rebate too), first AirPods, first iPad, first iPad mini, first iPad Air, first Apple Watch, first AirPods... sure all of them got better over time, but I was never disappointed in the first versions and the firsts gave me a unique glimpse into the future. I am not much for reading about the future, prefer to experience it. Which is why I got the M1 MacBook Air. It won't be my main driver (MacBook Pro 16 will be), but it sure will be interesting.
Those irrelevant metrics are absolutely being withheld purposefully, as they should be. What on Earth would you do with that information?
start a comparison war for the sake of arguing
maybe?!So what is the difference between invention and innovation then?
Here is how innovation has been used in economics which is what we are talking about here:
Innovation economics - Wikipedia
Innovation is the capacity to create more effective products, processes and business models to gain economic growth.
It is to take something that exist and make small changes to it or add something or find new methods of use to create something new out of the old.
Your dictionary definition looks more like invention and casual use of the word in common parlance.
Same here also going back to the first Mac and Apple LaserWriter for my company's lab. Which, at the time, was absolutely huge being able to write professional looking proposals (with graphics!) without help from admins using IBM Selectric typewriters. And have also experienced experienced a similar Apple trajectory over the years. Looking forward to receiving my M1 MBA as well.
Same here. I've purchased a day-1 Mac (128k), a day-1 PowerMac 7100, a day-1 2006 white MacBook Core Duo, several new iPhones that I stood in line for the 1st day they were available, have never been disappointed, and will be getting (delayed till December according to the Apple Store, so not day-1
) an MBP with an M1.