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"Separately, in what could be a sign of the end of the Mac Pro desktop line, Amazon is currently out of stock of the 8-core model. AppleInsider was first to report last October that Apple executives were evaluating whether to continue the Mac Pro in the face of limited sales, or finally ax the aging desktop line."

Yeah, that'll go over big....
 
This tbh. Laptop has just died but no point shelling out when they're just about to update

My laptop works just fine but it would be nice to have it before the release of D3 and just for the sake of having a new toy, plus I already have a few games that runs a bit so-so. :) Ill cross an extra finger for all of you whos laptops have given up.
 
"Separately, in what could be a sign of the end of the Mac Pro desktop line, Amazon is currently out of stock of the 8-core model. AppleInsider was first to report last October that Apple executives were evaluating whether to continue the Mac Pro in the face of limited sales, or finally ax the aging desktop line."

Yeah, that'll go over big....

Can't really say I blame them. I know this isn't any sort of scientific sample, but EVERY person I know that has needed a high end Mac system lately has chosen to go with a Hackintosh rig instead of buying a Mac Pro. Much more customizable and they can do it for a fraction of the price.
 
I'll believe the mac pro thing when i see it I guess. Though it wouldn't be a huge surprise, it would sort of solidify the notion that Apple is moving away from the professional market all together. Most think it's been happening for a while, given that the IOS stuff is so much more profitable. Still, there are a lot of professionals currently using Mac Pros (myself included) that are going to be pretty pissed being forced to look elsewhere for their needs.

I understand that it's the job of Apple to make good business decisions for the share holders, but damn, you've got 600 billion dollars, can't you afford to keep happy the market that actually built your company in the first place?:mad:

I know, I'm economically naive...
 
There's shortages of supplies in some retailers apparently.

I guess we'll soon see.
 
My laptop works just fine but it would be nice to have it before the release of D3 and just for the sake of having a new toy, plus I already have a few games that runs a bit so-so. :) Ill cross an extra finger for all of you whos laptops have given up.

haha thanks! a new toy is always fun though :p
 
I'll believe the mac pro thing when i see it I guess. Though it wouldn't be a huge surprise, it would sort of solidify the notion that Apple is moving away from the professional market all together. Most think it's been happening for a while, given that the IOS stuff is so much more profitable. Still, there are a lot of professionals currently using Mac Pros (myself included) that are going to be pretty pissed being forced to look elsewhere for their needs.

I understand that it's the job of Apple to make good business decisions for the share holders, but damn, you've got 600 billion dollars, can't you afford to keep happy the market that actually built your company in the first place?:mad:

I know, I'm economically naive...

It would be pretty silly though. Even if Apple is moving towards the consumer market, professionals are the ones that actually create the content for the consumer market.

And it's not like they don't have $ for the tiny amount of R&D required to do a simple hardware upgrade.
 
It would be pretty silly though. Even if Apple is moving towards the consumer market, professionals are the ones that actually create the content for the consumer market.

And it's not like they don't have $ for the tiny amount of R&D required to do a simple hardware upgrade.

Exactly. I'm really hoping they stay the course and keep all of the Pro lines alive and distinctive.
 
I know, I'm economically naive...

Not really. I think you made a fine point.

"Flagships" are rarely the cash cows. BMW sells a lot more 3-series than 7-series and a lot more goes to the bottom line from the former. However, the 7-series is as much marketing as it is a money earner.

The question is whether the Mac Pro still advertises what Apple wants to show as its image. Does a big desktop match their "post-PC" message and image? Maybe not. It would be unfortunate, but while the Mac Pro may seem more refined than your average Dell or HP desktop, it really is the same technology is a lovely case.

As beautiful as I think my Mac Pro is, it is a gritty machine at the end of the day. A powerhouse, full of storage and memory and lots of ports. If Apple makes a decision to drop the ax, it may not be just because of the bottom line.

I think it would be a mistake in the long-term (20+ years from now).
 
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I know, I'm economically naive...

Not really. I think you made a fine point.

"Flagships" are rarely the cash cows. BMW sells a lot more 3-series than 7-series and a lot more goes to the bottom line from the former. However, the 7-series is as much marketing as it is a money earner.

The question is whether the Mac Pro still advertises what Apple wants to show as its image. Does a big desktop match their "post-PC" message and image? Maybe not. It would be unfortunate, but while the Mac Pro may seem more refined than your average Dell or HP desktop, it really is the same technology is a lovely case.

As beautiful as I think my Mac Pro is, it is a gritty machine at the end of the day. A powerhouse, full of storage and memory and lots of ports. If Apple makes a decision to drop the ax, it may not be just because of the bottom line.

I think it would be a mistake in the long-term (20+ years from now).

20 years from now, there'll be more power in an iPad sized device than what's possible in a current desktop size computer.
 
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20 years from now, there'll be more power in an iPad sized device than what's possible in a current desktop size computer.

Wrong. It will not take 20 years.

It is never enough. Processing power and bandwidth is insatiable.

Just look at the video side of things. There is a push for double HD resolutions, which when you consider 3D is technically quadruple resolution.

Look at Toy Story (1995) compared to Toy Story 3 (2010) and compare the look of the animation. The amount of time it took to process frames back then versus now is a huge difference. It took hours to process a single frame back in 1995.

The reason I think it will be a mistake is because part of Apple's image is that of "creation". Seeing content creators using Macs makes the average punter feel special.
 
Wrong. It will not take 20 years.

It is never enough. Processing power and bandwidth is insatiable.

Just look at the video side of things. There is a push for double HD resolutions, which when you consider 3D is technically quadruple resolution.

Look at Toy Story (1995) compared to Toy Story 3 (2010) and compare the look of the animation. The amount of time it took to process frames back then versus now is a huge difference. It took hours to process a single frame back in 1995.

The reason I think it will be a mistake is because part of Apple's image is that of "creation". Seeing content creators using Macs makes the average punter feel special.

Wrong? That's an extremely bold statement to make. You KNOW that a tablet sized device won't be as powerful as a mac pro in 20 years? Sure...

I don't understand your comment "it is never enough"? Did you somehow think that I was implying that we will stop needing more processing power?
 
Wrong? That's an extremely bold statement to make. You KNOW that a tablet sized device won't be as powerful as a mac pro in 20 years? Sure...

I don't understand your comment "it is never enough"? Did you somehow think that I was implying that we will stop needing more processing power?

I got the impression that he meant it will take less than 20 years.
 
Wrong? That's an extremely bold statement to make. You KNOW that a tablet sized device won't be as powerful as a mac pro in 20 years? Sure...

I don't understand your comment "it is never enough"? Did you somehow think that I was implying that we will stop needing more processing power?

There is no way I would've imagined that when the SNES came out that in just over a decade I would be able to play those same games on a device that is half the size and a fourth the thickness of just the SNES's CONTROLLER. Technology moves at blistering speeds.

That isn't even 20 years. That's just over 10. The SNES had a 3.58 MEGAhertz processor while my phone has a 1000 megahertz processor. The games are ~10 megabytes, those cartridges are bigger than the actual phone I'm playing it on. We've gone from huge cartridges to microSD cards with the latter holding thousands of times more data. This is just my personal example from using my emulator today for the first time.

An iPad device having the power of a full desktop computer in 20 years? That sounds a bit slow to me. I'll give it 15.
 
Wrong? That's an extremely bold statement to make. You KNOW that a tablet sized device won't be as powerful as a mac pro in 20 years? Sure...

I said the opposite; it will not take 20 years for a tablet to be as powerful as a current Mac Pro. I am saying you are being too conservative in your prediction.

I don't understand your comment "it is never enough"? Did you somehow think that I was implying that we will stop needing more processing power?

Every time we say "we will never need anything faster/better/stronger than XYZ", we find ourselves 5 years later, wondering how we survived with XYZ. While we may have post-PC products that are more power than current professional workstations, there will be need for processing power orders of magnitude more than those products for professional use in the future.
 
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