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What most people don't realize is that there is only 1 manufacturer of iOS devices - Apple.

There are hundreds of manufacturers of Android capable devices.

You can't compare the output of 1 manufacturer to the output of combining 100's of manufacturers. Doesn't lend itself to a even comparison.

There are also hundreds of manufacturers that build Windows capable phones - their numbers are going to continue to grow, and while it may mainly cannibalize Android, you can bet it'll eat into Apple's market share too.

...pretty sure my next phone will be a windows phone, actually.
 
The market share difference between MS and Apple shrunk by 7% Y/Y... If both companies repeat their performance for the next two years, MS will overtake Apple.

Of course, Android is still crushing all.

Seems odd...Whenever I look around myself it seems Apple is at 70-90% and Android is everything else (so 30-10%.)

Evidently my view of the world is narrow, as the numbers are reverse that.

People see what they want to see.

I thought the same til I got rid of my iPhone and went Android, now I see them everywhere.

When my girlfriend said she wanted a Mini, I suddenly saw them absolutely everywhere.
 
Soon Enough...

Windows Phone is growing like iOS used to. Soon, android and windows will dominate, and iOS will be a niche player, much like OSX.

The old timers will continue to use it, much like OSX, while the new buyers will not.

Just my $0.02.
 
I think OS marketshare still doesn't matter that much to Apple.

Let's take this pumpkin pie.

Apple gets a slice that is 17% of the pie. Pretty big slice. Then there a few slivers that go to other people. Then 74% goes to Android manufacturers.

That means Motorola, Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony, Huawei, ZTE, Kyocera, Oppo, Lenovo... and countless other Chinese manufacturers... have to share 74% of that pie.

Seems like Apple is eating the best here.

Not to mention that all of Apple's phones come at a premium price which net's them higher profit margin than most others. A huge chunk of Android market share can be attributed to low end smartphones sold in emerging markets. India and China come to mind. Also... most of that 74% is running older Android software... Gingerbread, ICS... etc.

The chart is pretty clear, OS vs OS, and 75% is a pretty healthy chunk for Android.
You have to use some extremely twisted logic to claim that iOS is still winning. It's actually aiming into the irrelevant category and soon it will be below 10%.
 
Windows Phone is growing like iOS used to. Soon, android and windows will dominate, and iOS will be a niche player, much like OSX.

The old timers will continue to use it, much like OSX, while the new buyers will not.

Just my $0.02.

I gotta agree with this, history is repeating itself. I would give it a few more years before it happens but I foresee it happening. Just like Mac and PC, but this time it will be iOS and Android, those who enjoy the Apple ecosystem will continue buying new iPhones and those who don't will move on.
 
I agree with you, but I just wanted to point out that those reports are from early 2011 (before the Windows 8 phone was out)

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Yeah, they're dated reports, but still, Microsoft has not changed their product/strategy that much between WP7 and WP8. The fact that you can't upgrade a WP7 phone to WP8 doesn't mean WP as a whole shouldn't be considered a single platform.

I wonder what made those analysts think WP would get that popular.
 
When the iPhone sold 4 to 6 million units.. it was 2007/2008 smartphones were a new thing, the overall market of people buying smartphones by comparison was very small so Apple's 4 to 6 million units was probably 80 to 90% of the total market. M$ is just so late to the game with a smarphone people look at 7m as disappointing against the 200 million overall smartphones sold.

Timing is everything.

I believe you need a history lesson. Back when the iPhone entered the market, Blackberry and Symbian (Nokia) were dominating the "smartphone" market. Even though Apple had a vastly superior product at that time, it took a few years until they overtook these first generation smartphones - only in 2010 they overtook BB and in 2011 Symbian.


I still remember when the iPhone 'only sold 4-6 million units' in a quarter. And now, Windows Phone sales are considered disappointing with 'only 7 million sold units' in one single quarter.

I think they are doing great - and I believe that it is unreasonable to expect that a company goes from selling 3 million units to 30 million units a quarter. Going from 3 million to 7 million, like Windows Phone, year-over-year is a great accomplishment. :)

I agree. I'm happy that Windows Phone has some nice growth. Apple alone seems unable to compete with the Android platform, at least in the global market. It is good that there are other systems that keep some amount of pressure up, to push Android and iOS development further.
 
Windows Phone is growing like iOS used to. Soon, android and windows will dominate, and iOS will be a niche player, much like OSX.

The old timers will continue to use it, much like OSX, while the new buyers will not.

Just my $0.02.

I gotta agree with this, history is repeating itself. I would give it a few more years before it happens but I foresee it happening. Just like Mac and PC, but this time it will be iOS and Android, those who enjoy the Apple ecosystem will continue buying new iPhones and those who don't will move on.

I for one can't wait till it happens. Maybe there'll finally be some peace on these forums as people shift on to Android Central or whatever else forums.

PS. You should never use market share to measure success. You're just asking for trouble if you do.
 
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The chart is pretty clear, OS vs OS, and 75% is a pretty healthy chunk for Android.
You have to use some extremely twisted logic to claim that iOS is still winning. It's actually aiming into the irrelevant category and soon it will be below 10%.

I am not sure what condones "winning" in your book... but in the real world, the company that is making the most money is "winning." Last time I checked, Apple was the one with a billion and a half in cash laying around.
 
incorrect info?

the chart is mislabeled at some point. Apple goes from ~ 23% market share to ~ 17% and has a ~ 6% increase? That should be -6%.
 
What most people don't realize is that there is only 1 manufacturer of iOS devices - Apple.

There are hundreds of manufacturers of Android capable devices.

You can't compare the output of 1 manufacturer to the output of combining 100's of manufacturers. Doesn't lend itself to a even comparison.

Using this reasoning. Is that not like saying that Apple has the biggest share in the PC market? Which would be misleading.

Windows OS accounts for about 78% of all personal computers sold, while Mac OS is about 3.7%.

However, last year using Mac and iPad sales together, this would make Apple the top single computer vendor in the world, with 14.6% of the market. Hewlett-Packard were next at around 14.1% with the rest making up the numbers.

This would not mean that they are dominating.
 
Hey, they've been whoring the heck out of windows phone on Hawaii 5-0, that can't hurt their sales, right?
 
Apple gets a slice that is 17% of the pie. Pretty big slice. Then there a few slivers that go to other people. Then 74% goes to Android manufacturers.

That means Motorola, Samsung, LG, HTC, Sony, Huawei, ZTE, Kyocera, Oppo, Lenovo... and countless other Chinese manufacturers... have to share 74% of that pie.
Now you forgot that Samsung holds 95% of the pie.
That means about 68% of the market share goes for Samsung, and 17% for Apple.

Selling crap devices is really good for marketshare...
 
What most people don't realize is that there is only 1 manufacturer of iOS devices - Apple.

There are hundreds of manufacturers of Android capable devices.

You can't compare the output of 1 manufacturer to the output of combining 100's of manufacturers. Doesn't lend itself to a even comparison.

That said I'm very impressed with where Apple is from a manufacturing stand point. Year over year they have demonstrated that they can continue to ship more units (through more efficient manufacturing methods or strategic retail alignments). Impressive.

Its about the OS and not about the number of phones that is important. Android is a full blown OS and IOS is a mobile OS and that is a major difference between the two OS'es.
 
Wow. Android is dominating. I am a little surprised, but things will pickup with the iPhone 5s.
 
Its about the OS and not about the number of phones that is important. Android is a full blown OS and IOS is a mobile OS and that is a major difference between the two OS'es.

The article is referring to Smartphone market share.

I don't follow your "full blown" OS vs iOS.

Android is on other products as is iOS with AppleTV but both are mobile OS's.

What example do you have of Android being a "full blown" OS and exactly what is a "full blown" OS?
 
I like it if windows phone can grab 30% market share, just because we then could have a choice.

bigger market share = more apps.
 
What most people don't realize is that there is only 1 manufacturer of iOS devices - Apple.

There are hundreds of manufacturers of Android capable devices.

You can't compare the output of 1 manufacturer to the output of combining 100's of manufacturers. Doesn't lend itself to a even comparison.

That said I'm very impressed with where Apple is from a manufacturing stand point. Year over year they have demonstrated that they can continue to ship more units (through more efficient manufacturing methods or strategic retail alignments). Impressive.

It doesn't matter how many manufacturers there are. This is talking about mobile operating systems and it's a fact that Android is dominating iOS right now. Stop making excuses we all know that iOS needs a MAJOR update. Android is currently winning. Numbers are showing it

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68% or 32.7% either way both numbers are greater than 17% by iOS
 
I am not sure what condones "winning" in your book... but in the real world, the company that is making the most money is "winning." Last time I checked, Apple was the one with a billion and a half in cash laying around.

Google has about 60 billion in cash but they use the money to invest and innovate. What does Apple do with their money besides borrow money to buy back stocks? Explain to me. Thanks
 
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