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Android Apple Music Beta Code Refers to Unreleased 'Apple Classical' App
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Releasing yet another app on top of already existing Apple Music and Apple Podcasts? This would just create more fragmentation and UI confusion, IMO. Spotify combines all sorts of music genres and podcasts in one app, so once you are used to the way the app functions, you are good to go.
Let’s hope that the crossover is to overhaul the god awful Apple Music search - every week I get emails about new music, very little of which I listen to. There should be a way of customising what music you see when you log in, none of this one size fits all. I still find it hard to believe that with all their cash/staff there’s genre’s that are missing. & adding to what others have said how they deal with what is classical & what is not will be interesting.
I’ve said before that Roon is a serious bit of kit for music tagging, if it wasn’t for their obscene pricing & lack of streaming library, I’d be on it like a shot.
I’ve said before that Roon is a serious bit of kit for music tagging, if it wasn’t for their obscene pricing & lack of streaming library, I’d be on it like a shot.
I think it would make more sense to fix the current Music app and add a section for classical. Seems doable to me.
if Apple Classical will work on the same algorithm as Apple Music, then after listening to Mahler's Symphony 9, you'll get the recommendation 'Metabolic' by Slipknot in your new music mix...
'Hey, you like Alessandro Scarlatti, maybe you'll enjoy some Public Enemy?'...thanks siri...
So, Apple, please sort out the recommendations we get, please... Maybe a playlist like Spotify for new music ONLY from people in your library?
Then, I want an 'Apple Music for old people' where all music will be from pre-2000.
EDIT: what about music that crosses classical and other genres? It's much easier to concentrate efforts into one app.
What we need is these playlists
'Hey, you like Alessandro Scarlatti, maybe you'll enjoy some Public Enemy?'...thanks siri...
So, Apple, please sort out the recommendations we get, please... Maybe a playlist like Spotify for new music ONLY from people in your library?
Then, I want an 'Apple Music for old people' where all music will be from pre-2000.
EDIT: what about music that crosses classical and other genres? It's much easier to concentrate efforts into one app.
What we need is these playlists
- Recommend me new music - (anything the algo thinks)
- Recommend new music from all artists I added to my library
- Recommend me new classical
- Recommend me new classical from only classical artist in my library
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don't get the point of making a separate app for classical music.
can you instead release a proper Apple Music app for Windows so we aren't stuck in 2003 having to use iTunes. Or at the very very least fix the web player so it doesn't log me out constantly, actually plays songs all the time, and streams at a high quality bitrate?
if Apple are serious about Apple Music they can't ignore Windows users. I will drop Spotify with 0 hesitation the day Apple give me a proper way to listen to AM on Windows. and no i'm not gonna just "go buy a mac". From what I hear the Apple Music app on macOS sucks so maybe they should be fixing that too.
can you instead release a proper Apple Music app for Windows so we aren't stuck in 2003 having to use iTunes. Or at the very very least fix the web player so it doesn't log me out constantly, actually plays songs all the time, and streams at a high quality bitrate?
if Apple are serious about Apple Music they can't ignore Windows users. I will drop Spotify with 0 hesitation the day Apple give me a proper way to listen to AM on Windows. and no i'm not gonna just "go buy a mac". From what I hear the Apple Music app on macOS sucks so maybe they should be fixing that too.
It's ridiculous to separate classical music from all other music. Pop music also has Composer field, genre, etc, I see no reason why classical music can't have their own additional tags and why existing Music app can't show and work with that meta information.
TIL that people aged 22+ are old.
ok then. lmfao. plenty of people still listen to stuff from the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s. what a stupid comment
Put on some vinyl and chill brah
I like all the music mentioned actually! Peace and laughter.
There are metadata associated with classical music that aren't relevant to other genres, so it does make some sense to break out classical-specific search parameters into a separate app rather than, say, having an interface that dynamically changes in response to genre choice. Also, there is still a lot of interest in classical music from younger people, especially young people who have been trained on classical instruments. There's a wealth of structural complexity within classical music that probably requires significant personal investment to appreciate. I.e., it's an acquired taste.
Surprised by the lack of insight re: classical music popularity. This is a *very* good move for one of Apple's key markets, and a country/culture where classical is thriving vs. most western cultures where it is diminishing. Quote "It doesn’t take an economist to fathom that DG’s signing of a long-term deal with the SSO bears some relationship to the size of the Chinese market. Interest in Western classical music has been on a crescendo in China since it was introduced as a new phenomenon following the Cultural Revolution." Link:
www.gramophone.co.uk
China and classical music: an extraordinary story of growth
We have long been told that China holds the key to the future of classical music. As the West looks increasingly to the East, what impact will this have on the global musical community and the music we listen to? Andrew Mellor investigates
www.gramophone.co.uk
Yeah you tell him! Obviously, not even old people listen to classical music.
I wish they would put some effort in a complete revamp of this crappleware called Music. And after this they should do Books. That is even worse.
Your question is reasonable. There are a few problems:If you can search for “Weeknd” in Apple Music, why can’t you search for “Mozart”?
- Classical music has composers that often were not the artist recorded. So asking for a composer may result in an alternate musician being presented. Often it's a rapper's stage name. That's not to be dismissive of the presented artist's musical ability, but a reflection of how the current system deprioritizes classical music.
- A classical composer might have multiple recordings with different orchestras and conductors and the current system doesn't really have a good way to represent those differences.
- The most listened-to classical songs come from soundtracks and compilations. Since many Classical songs are divided into modern consumable 'bites', even if you find a recording of a composer you were searching for, you are most likely to be presented a song fragment out of context of the entire work.
Then you have the 'other issues':
- Classical isn't really a genre. Sure, other types of music can make a similar statement but with centuries between music, the differences in classical music are more pronounced.
- Classical music tracks are often made from convenience or interpreted by the publisher and not a reflection of the composer's wishes. As a result, they require track names that don't fit on the screen without a lot of scrolling. Siri? She struggles with understanding Weeknd, she's never going to understand a paragraph of poorly spoken Italian.
- A lot of classical music WAS pop music of its time. Just like modern celebrity feuds, there are relationships between classic music, but they aren't as intuitive to new listers. Right now there aren't good program notes so people might not realize that performance is actually a satire or response to an entirely different composer. In classical, just like other genres, you might have to listen to someone else's music to appreciate the next composition. But without words in songs to clearly reference the work, how would a new listener be expected to know this?
just my 2 cents.
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I’m curious to see if Apple Classical offers a community forum as Primephonic did as a stand-alone service. Exchanging opinions and ideas with other classical enthusiasts was an important, entertaining, and educational aspect of the Primephonic experience.
Apple can't get the Apps they have now working without major bugs and UI issues. Can't wait for another App that is oh wow, gee wiz, the best ever made and then abandoned after the first few months to work on the next oh wow, gee wiz, the best ever made App.
Will classical music be removed from the normal Apple Music app? What will happen to existing Apple Music playlists with a mixture of music in? My guess is that the std app will include it also. But maybe not! Here's a thing, if classical music is removed, will certain publishers lose out.
What about more modern classical. Say, the Interstellar theme. Very popular but classical. Maybe played more by modern music fans than classical music fans due to it's link to a hit movie.
A potential minefield.
What about more modern classical. Say, the Interstellar theme. Very popular but classical. Maybe played more by modern music fans than classical music fans due to it's link to a hit movie.
A potential minefield.
I wish they'd put some effort into making Apple Music better. The app (at least on macOS) is below par, and to me it seems it even gets worse at every iteration. The world's largest can't build decent software any more. In the past Apple offered (relative) high quality software, nowadays it is just poor quality "bling bling".
And what is worse: they protect their ecosystem in such a way that makes it nearly impossible for third party developers to build other (better) alternatives.
How nice it would be if Apple were to acknowledge their own weaknesses and actively help third parties deliver better products (instead of making it harder and harder for them to build anything beyond crappy "bling bling".
And what is worse: they protect their ecosystem in such a way that makes it nearly impossible for third party developers to build other (better) alternatives.
How nice it would be if Apple were to acknowledge their own weaknesses and actively help third parties deliver better products (instead of making it harder and harder for them to build anything beyond crappy "bling bling".
I liked Apple more when they were a small player and needed to focus on amazing technology that "just worked". Nowadays it feels 'more of the same". I think Apple could improve by cooperating with software developers ("making great things possible" instead of "making things impossible". Just my opinion, because I care for more than just $$$.
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Very nice! I have a feeling this year Apple will be focusing on the music app further.