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dBeats

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Jun 21, 2011
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But the sales numbers went up. And they made most of the profit. And practically no one returns an iPhone after they buy it, and every iPhone is a smart phone...should I keep going?
 

milo

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I don't know how much of that they're going to gain back if the new "low cost" iPhone starts at $490.
 

haydn!

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Considering Apple has just what, 20 max individual handsets currently on sale, compared to about 1,000 different Android handsets, I'd say that market share is actually pretty impressive.

Break it down to market share per handset and not platform and nodoubt Apple will be be half the top 10.
 

mmikuta

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Jan 31, 2013
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waiting for what exactly

some much for agility, while market share erodes...
 
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johnseattle

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Who friggin cares who has what share. Doesn't affect my opinion of what phone/os I'm going to prefer.
 

ValSalva

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Jun 26, 2009
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What about the percentage of profits in the mobile market? Isn't that what's really important? Who wants to break even or lose money? These market share numbers are almost useless. iOS is still the place to be.
 

chrmjenkins

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Oct 29, 2007
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Seriously?! That's really, really bad. Where have you heard this?

Math?

Look at the difference in shipments between quarters. Look at Apple's pure growth in shipments. Divide the second number by the first.

But the sales numbers went up. And they made most of the profit. And practically no one returns an iPhone after they buy it, and every iPhone is a smart phone...should I keep going?

Customer satisfaction was recently higher with some of the Galaxy phones, so it's not as unilateral as it might seem. Market share is still a multiplicative factor in profits.
 

Risco

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Jul 22, 2010
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Even though they are not hugely significant gains, I am pleased to see Microsoft beginning to offer come competition within the market place. It is better for everyone if there is more competition.

I think it has more to do with Nokia finally making quality phones again and desirable ones at that.
 

cube

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So, Android now has a bit more than double what Symbian had when it was killed senselessly.
 

cdmoore74

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Don't worry guys; Iphone 5s and 5c will turn things around.

Tim Cook 2013

Don't worry guys; iphone 6 and 6c will turn things around.

Tim Cook 2014

Don't worry guys; iphone 7 will turn things around.

New Apple CEO
 

GQB

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Sep 26, 2007
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I was part of that. I've had an iPhone since the day it first came out, every model. I got so bored with it I sold it an got an HTC One. Once the iPhone 6 comes out I might go back, but we'll see about that :p. This isn't bashing Apple at all, it was just what I did.

Yes, Apple should be worried because of the .000001% of people who bounce between phones and OS's because they're 'bored'.
 

bpcookson

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It's kind of weird... the majority of people I see at work have an Android while the majority of strangers I see outside of work have an iPhone.

I live in the city and work just outside the city while most of the people I work with live way outside the city. I feel like all the country bumpkins are slowly getting on the smartphone bandwagon with an Android while the majority of affluent city folk are tried and true iPhone users.
 

chazmuzz

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Feb 25, 2011
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As an iOS developer, I'm wondering at what point I should abandon ship and switch to Android development. There still seems to be plenty of cash in iOS dev at the moment but how long will that last with a decreasing market share?
 

ghost187

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I don't want a budget iPhone, I want screen size options. You give us options with the iPad, Mac, and iPod, why not iPhone?
 

xodiak

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Incredible

So let me get this right, Android pulls ahead in market share and apple is behind. How many phones have android on them that you can go out and buy today? Compared to that how many phones are apple phones you can buy today? I'm confused cause this really isn't news its comparing apples to oranges. Why wouldn't you compare the iPhone 5 to the New Galaxy, and the 4s to the old galaxy or whatever android phone is of that generation? Saying android is beating apple when there are a hundred plus android types of phones out there to the what 3 or 4 iPhones is ridiculous. Its like comparing Apple computers to Windows/Dos based computers back in the day or even still. They make their own hardware and put there own operating system on it and they have managed all this time to be around because they don't go for the entire market they go for a portion of it. Seems odd to compare, is all I'm saying.
 

tekno

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Oct 15, 2011
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Again.... we're talking shipments here... not sales... don't know how many of those new shipments are sitting dead on shelves???

True. All the iPhones might be sitting in the hundreds of Apple Stores where all their customers are 14-year-olds using the Macs to update their Facebook status.
 

Skika

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Mar 11, 2009
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How is that even important? Does anyone seriously believe Apple aims for the biggest marketshare?
 

Ryth

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Apr 21, 2011
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But the sales numbers went up. And they made most of the profit. And practically no one returns an iPhone after they buy it, and every iPhone is a smart phone...should I keep going?

You also forgot these are 'shipped' #s...they don't mean a thing.

:)
 

mudman2

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gnasher729

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Apple's phone sales are growing, year after year.
Apple's market share in the phone market is growing, year after year.
Apple's market share in the high-end market is doing fine as well.

Cheap feature phones are being replaced by cheap Android phones. That does affect the numbers that Apple haters love; it doesn't affect Apple or the iPhone.
 

Ryth

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Apr 21, 2011
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As an iOS developer, I'm wondering at what point I should abandon ship and switch to Android development. There still seems to be plenty of cash in iOS dev at the moment but how long will that last with a decreasing market share?

Do you want to make money? That should answer your question. One OS does that, the other doesn't do anything besides the top 1% of developers for it.
 

mudman2

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Jul 19, 2010
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