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Android over iPad? What a crock!

I have owned;

HP TouchPad
Dell Streak 5 and 7
Amazon Kindle Fire
ipad


.... and the iPad is the only one I've kept and upgraded.
 
ZBoater said:
However, it burns me to no end when I receive an email from someone asking for a file, say my resume or a spreadsheet, and I can't just hit reply, hit an attach button, and attach a file. Such a basic function is beyond the capability of iOS. I have to close the email, open up OpenOffice, find the file, and email it to the person, losing all the email trail in the process. And God forbid I need to send a file AND a picture. I am screwed. Two emails are needed for THAT.

I think we are far enough along the iOS development cycle that some solution to this should be forthcoming. In the meantime, I grab my Galaxy Tab, fire up GMail, hit reply, hit attach, and attach to my hearts content.
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u nailed it. This is the number one thing I hate about iphone/ipad. This needs to change. I ran into this issue few times and it specially sucks when u forget about it, type your reply and then can't attach anything. Pathetic
 
eclipseblur954 said:
And i agree completely, androids have finally gotten to the point where they are fast enough to support their os systems....
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In my experience, the hardware has outclassed the android OS for quite some time now. Until ICS, the OS was laggy and bug-ridden...even on the best of machines. I haven't had a chance to play with ICS, but the videos look highly improved, at least for basic tasks. Much smoother.

-->iDv.
 
ZBoater said:
I consider myself an Apple fan. I love Apple. I recently converted from Windows to a MBA and am not looking back (although I do have Win7 loaded in Bootcamp).

However, it burns me to no end when I receive an email from someone asking for a file, say my resume or a spreadsheet, and I can't just hit reply, hit an attach button, and attach a file. Such a basic function is beyond the capability of iOS. I have to close the email, open up OpenOffice, find the file, and email it to the person, losing all the email trail in the process. And God forbid I need to send a file AND a picture. I am screwed. Two emails are needed for THAT.

I think we are far enough along the iOS development cycle that some solution to this should be forthcoming. In the meantime, I grab my Galaxy Tab, fire up GMail, hit reply, hit attach, and attach to my hearts content.
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Question: Does Gmail opened through Safari allow you to do this? I bought an ipad2 for someone recently and didn't get a chance to check that.

Thanks.
 
iDvisic said:
In my experience, the hardware has outclassed the android OS for quite some time now. Until ICS, the OS was laggy and bug-ridden...even on the best of machines. I haven't had a chance to play with ICS, but the videos look highly improved, at least for basic tasks. Much smoother.

-->iDv.
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yep ICS is great, very smooth on the galaxy nexus.
 
CapnJackGig said:
Amen, no matter what anyone says, people are still paying 500+ dollars for a tablet that can't even view all of the Internet.
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I assume you're bringing up the tired old flash point again? Flash is annoyingly flaky even on my MBP with 6gb RAM. It has no place on my mobile device. Even Adobe is abandoning its support on mobile devices. And many Android users want nothing to do (for example) with it, either.

I could get flash on my iDevice if I wanted to. Without jailbreaking. I just don't want it.

-->iDv.
 
CapnJackGig said:
Amen, no matter what anyone says, people are still paying 500+ dollars for a tablet that can't even view all of the Internet.
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You mean like browsing websites that are exclusively flash or seeing the word BORKED on forums that have imbedded videos. Or even simple things like uploading a photo to Facebook without using a FB app.
 
digidesign said:
wait a minute, this thread sounds familiar....

(opens up bible)

gary 3:16 "and thus, the bible group declared over the perkins cheese fries that android was a crock, and that indeed the ipad ruleth over all. Those who did not agree were declared by the physicians of brain to be fools. And lo, gary the prophet didst then go up unto macrumors, where he too wast declared a fool."

uncanny 😱
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lol
 
ZBoater said:
I consider myself an Apple fan. I love Apple. I recently converted from Windows to a MBA and am not looking back (although I do have Win7 loaded in Bootcamp).

However, it burns me to no end when I receive an email from someone asking for a file, say my resume or a spreadsheet, and I can't just hit reply, hit an attach button, and attach a file. Such a basic function is beyond the capability of iOS. I have to close the email, open up OpenOffice, find the file, and email it to the person, losing all the email trail in the process. And God forbid I need to send a file AND a picture. I am screwed. Two emails are needed for THAT.

I think we are far enough along the iOS development cycle that some solution to this should be forthcoming. In the meantime, I grab my Galaxy Tab, fire up GMail, hit reply, hit attach, and attach to my hearts content.
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Access to the filesystem is clearly iOS's biggest shortcoming. Apple faces a problem in this regard in that the current PC-era system is fraught with problems (including complexity to novice users), but it's hard to replace it with something that isn't basically identical.

Currently Apple's solution is iCloud. The problem with that is that is segregates your documents by app, and no app may access the files inside another app's iCloud container (similar to how no app can access another's files locally on the device). Basically, it all comes down to sandboxing.

This is the most secure solution, but it clearly makes your workflow a lot longer. It means that if I download a dodgy app, it won't scan my Pages documents and upload them to some 3rd-party server; you don't have that guarantee with Android.

I agree that Apple's approach needs reworking. Since every (non-jailbroken) app can be uniquely identified by virtue of being distributed through the AppStore, it is possible to blacklist applications remotely (Apple already have this ability for apps that violate their location privacy policy).

I would recommend broadening this in to a multi-level warning system. If Apple are investigating user concerns about how an app accesses user documents or other data (e.g. photos, location), an alert will show the next time the application launches. If an app is found to be abusing a user's private information, they'll be remotely killed. If that works at stopping malware, it should be possible to loosen the sandbox around an app's user documents, or even to create a shared documents space.
 
ZBoater said:
Yes yes, I love my iPad, the app integration is slicker, iCloud is cool, Photo Stream is cooler. But geez try replying to an email and attaching anything to your reply with the iPad.... 🙄
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That's what log me in is for 😉
 
Access to the file system is not going to happen with iOS, because of the issues with security and frankly, because they are pushing forward with a new way of operating. Just like they don't include card readers or hdmi ports, they don't want to continue on with the old way of using your computer. It means that you have to work around or learn new ways of doing what you may consider to be simple.

That isn't to say that Apple won't figure out a better way forward, but trying to make things work they way they have in the past is not the way forward.
 
powerslave12r said:
What am I missing? Your post seems to mention this is a limitation of iOS not Android.
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I am saying I can do it on my Android tablet and I cannot do it on my iPad.

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jmgregory1 said:
Access to the file system is not going to happen with iOS, because of the issues with security and frankly, because they are pushing forward with a new way of operating. Just like they don't include card readers or hdmi ports, they don't want to continue on with the old way of using your computer. It means that you have to work around or learn new ways of doing what you may consider to be simple.

That isn't to say that Apple won't figure out a better way forward, but trying to make things work they way they have in the past is not the way forward.
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I understand the file security issue, but when it prevents you from replying to an email and attaching a file, that's a pretty big deal. Maybe it's just me, but I reply to a lot of emails, and I often want to attach something to my reply.

Call me old fashioned... 🙄
 
jmgregory1 said:
Access to the file system is not going to happen with iOS, because of the issues with security and frankly, because they are pushing forward with a new way of operating. Just like they don't include card readers or hdmi ports, they don't want to continue on with the old way of using your computer. It means that you have to work around or learn new ways of doing what you may consider to be simple.

That isn't to say that Apple won't figure out a better way forward, but trying to make things work they way they have in the past is not the way forward.
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So remove any options/flexibility for the user because apple knows what's good for us.

Sounds like a dictatorship OS. 😛

Also, apple can view, snoop, obtain all your iCloud stuff whenever they please. Yup, that's secure.
 
powerslave12r said:
I'm asking whether you can do this through gmail opened in Safari on an ipad2 since I assume you mean you cannot do this on the ipad mail client.
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No, you cannot. iOS doesn't let Safari access the file system to attach something to the GMail web client either.
 
ZBoater said:
No, you cannot. iOS doesn't let Safari access the file system to attach something to the GMail web client either.
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Okay. From my so far limited knowledge about the ipad, I understand Jailbreak let's you do the sane thing. I am going to have to read up on Jailbreak I think.

I could also use installing gcc if possible.
 
I think there are at least two groups of users for tablet:

If you want tablet more like PC then forget about iPad. If you can stay without - capability of attaching files to email, having file explorer and ability to copy media without conversion, stereo speakers. The only thing iPad is more close to (post) PC is the weight and inability to hold it with single hand for long. 😛
 
ZBoater said:
I consider myself an Apple fan. I love Apple. I recently converted from Windows to a MBA and am not looking back (although I do have Win7 loaded in Bootcamp).

However, it burns me to no end when I receive an email from someone asking for a file, say my resume or a spreadsheet, and I can't just hit reply, hit an attach button, and attach a file. Such a basic function is beyond the capability of iOS. I have to close the email, open up OpenOffice, find the file, and email it to the person, losing all the email trail in the process. And God forbid I need to send a file AND a picture. I am screwed. Two emails are needed for THAT.

I think we are far enough along the iOS development cycle that some solution to this should be forthcoming. In the meantime, I grab my Galaxy Tab, fire up GMail, hit reply, hit attach, and attach to my hearts content.
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Hahaha.. it happened to me also, came from galaxy tab 7.. at first I try to reply or attached more than 1 pictures on my iphone and ipad.. it can't.. i try and try, I thought maybe I was doing it wrong, until I google it..
Then I bought again the 8.9 Gtab for my work, and Ipad is for family (wife and kids love it..hell I love it too)..

I love both system (ios and android)..that why I used 4s and G-note.. one is for fun (camera and games) and one for work..🙂
 
jmgregory1 said:
Access to the file system is not going to happen with iOS, because of the issues with security and frankly, because they are pushing forward with a new way of operating. Just like they don't include card readers or hdmi ports, they don't want to continue on with the old way of using your computer. It means that you have to work around or learn new ways of doing what you may consider to be simple.

That isn't to say that Apple won't figure out a better way forward, but trying to make things work they way they have in the past is not the way forward.
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It has to happen if they ever want to appeal to enterprise business customers. They live and die by sharing files via email.
 
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