phobic99, obviously my post doesn't apply to you because you own an iphone. Being a gadget geek is not a "general" person, so there for my post still holds true.
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Android Smartphone Sales Exceed iPhone in the U.S. for First Time
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phobic99, obviously my post doesn't apply to you because you own an iphone. Being a gadget geek is not a "general" person, so there for my post still holds true.
This is very true. Wish it was based on hard sales numbers. But since it is a survey, it could possibly be interpreted as public sentiment toward Apples resent decisions.
Lets see what happens after the new iphone is released
Not that it matters. The N1 is unlocked so it'll work on every GSM carrier out there. Another advantage over the iPhone.
Let's suppose the iPhone was free on AT&T. You really think they wouldn't charge your new line a data fee?
I mean... really...?
Ha ha indeed.
Verizon & AT&T practically have the same rates across the board on all their cell phone plans.
I never said that AT&T wouldn't charge for the extra line charges, but since they don't offer a "free" iPhone, it's you that made up this "let's suppose" that's totally outside of today's situation I was talking about.
This just in!
Android tablet sales surpass iPad sales...
So any of you android supporters won't be shocked when a tablet os with android is rolled out on 100 sets of incompatible hardware some day and have more units sold than the iPad.
Sorry to steal your thunder so soon.
Although you have to question billion dollar companies who have been in the smartphone business for years who up and decide to start using a free os made by someone else.
Android tablet sales surpass iPad sales...
So any of you android supporters won't be shocked when a tablet os with android is rolled out on 100 sets of incompatible hardware some day and have more units sold than the iPad.
Sorry to steal your thunder so soon.
Although you have to question billion dollar companies who have been in the smartphone business for years who up and decide to start using a free os made by someone else.
Yeah, if you like paying $529.00 up front for a phone only to have to pay a $30/month data fee anyway...
Correct me nicely if I am wrong, but almost all phones I know of except the Iphone go down in price a while after launch. Think about all the phones that either drop in price or go to a buy one get one deal. The only one I can think of is the Iphone that doesnt. I get the 3G did, but they are selling a now 2 year old model reduced.
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What is there to question? At the time Android was released, Symbian was close sourced, not optimized for touchscreens and required licencing as well as WinMo.
Android was a great solution for manufacturers as you can see by the discussions in this thread. Android has also played a big role in HTC's recent performance and helped drag Motorola from the gutter too.
Not bad in my (rose tinted) eyes.
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What is there to question? At the time Android was released, Symbian was close sourced, not optimized for touchscreens and required licencing as well as WinMo.
Android was a great solution for manufacturers as you can see by the discussions in this thread. Android has also played a big role in HTC's recent performance and helped drag Motorola from the gutter too.
Not bad in my (rose tinted) eyes.
This is great news for google. However, I know that this is merely a result of being in more places for cheaper prices. From what I've seen, the majority of people that buy an android phone don't even know what android is. They simply see a phone in the store that looks cool, and has an affordable price tag. My fear for google is that once the iPhone comes to more carriers android will be thrown to the side once again.
With the net awash with leaked iphone 4g info, who is buying the 3g/s now?
People looking for a cheap alternative.
-1 iPhone
+1 iClone
Good luck to em - cheap way for apple to see which of the myriad of features they didn't include last time are actually useful.
Competition is good, but unless you are the lead dog - the view rarely changes.
People looking for a cheap alternative.
-1 iPhone
+1 iClone
Good luck to em - cheap way for apple to see which of the myriad of features they didn't include last time are actually useful.
Competition is good, but unless you are the lead dog - the view rarely changes.
re. Your first point: While no one knows the details of the Apple/AT&T contract for certain, it appears that Apple has moved away from the revenue sharing model they may have started with.
re. Your third point: I can't see where your assumption on Verizon demanding control. They seem to be selling any smart phone they can get their hands on, and haven't been adding crapware to them.
Apple needs access to Verizon's customer base, and Verizon needs the iPhone to keep their customers happy and not shopping other carriers. The only possible reason for Apple to hold out is that Jobs is punishing Verizon for showing him the door a few years back, and I can't really believe that would be the case.
This has only been the case since the iPhone became such a smash hit and is simply retaliatory/reactionary behavior by Verizon. As they say, a leopard cannot change his spots, and I'm sure Verizon is working to get back their infamous level of device lockdown.
As I mentioned before, the freewheeling days of Android are numbered. The carriers will start exerting excessive control over their devices again, and I would not be surprised if this was an obstacle in the Apple/Verizon discussions (if such discussions are even underway).
It's good to see that Android the OS has caught on to the point that it will likely be around for years to come. I just wish that Android the platform hadn't been killed in the cradle quite so quickly by the handset makers.
What do I mean? Well look at it from a developer's stand point. The iPhone and iPod Touch are a great example of a *platform*. There are certain key features which are available (and identical) across all the models which have been constructed. The only significant differences between the models (Edge/3G/Wi-Fi onlyl) are nicely abstracted away from the developer, *and* have clean methods to determine if they are available. The addition of the iPad to the platform family was done cleanly as well. There are distinctions between the two sizes of device, but the core remains consistent from a developer's perspective.
The various makes and models of Android-based devices, however, differ on much more basic terms. There are Android-based devices out there with at least two different processor architectures, a multitude of screen resolutions, and keyboard types (including one based around a numeric keypad and 5-way selector IIRC). If you want to develop an Android app, you'll need to figure out which subset of the available feature-sets you want to support.
Android makes for a good OS, but a poor platform. It's a shame, really. I had high hopes on this one.
What do I mean? Well look at it from a developer's stand point. The iPhone and iPod Touch are a great example of a *platform*. There are certain key features which are available (and identical) across all the models which have been constructed. The only significant differences between the models (Edge/3G/Wi-Fi onlyl) are nicely abstracted away from the developer, *and* have clean methods to determine if they are available. The addition of the iPad to the platform family was done cleanly as well. There are distinctions between the two sizes of device, but the core remains consistent from a developer's perspective.
The various makes and models of Android-based devices, however, differ on much more basic terms. There are Android-based devices out there with at least two different processor architectures, a multitude of screen resolutions, and keyboard types (including one based around a numeric keypad and 5-way selector IIRC). If you want to develop an Android app, you'll need to figure out which subset of the available feature-sets you want to support.
Android makes for a good OS, but a poor platform. It's a shame, really. I had high hopes on this one.
OMG, an online survey determines that there are more interest in free products than premium products.
Better hold the presses.
THe problem with Android is that many people talk it up, but not many actually spends money to buy them.
Better hold the presses.
THe problem with Android is that many people talk it up, but not many actually spends money to buy them.
It makes you wonder how viable this platform will be for the handset makers as well. What's the point of burning a boatload of money to develop and ship a new device if your carrier partner is touting a newer competitor's model as "the one to have" and completely spurning your device only two months after you ship?
The hardware makers will be falling on their swords to be "the iPhone alternative" if only but for a few weeks. Doesn't seem like a very good business to be in. The handset manufacturers are simply going to be cheap labor for Google and its quest for world data domination, just like PC hardware manufacturers are cheap labor for Microsoft and Windows sales. "You sell the razors at a pittance and we'll sell the blades at a fat profit!" Yeah, good deal.
Then Windows 7 Phone Series enters the fray and makes things even more convoluted...
I definitely think the integrated/vertical strategy (Apple, RIM, and Palm/HP) is the way to go in the handset business. I wouldn't want to be Motorola or HTC in the long term.
Exactly. Its amazing to me that just now Android phones are getting ahead of the iPhone a bit. What these numbers don't reflect is that the iPhone is one phone and the Android OS has many many phones using it. I think you're spot on, its incredible that the iPhone, being one phone on one network is even comparable to the Android phone market. For all their drawbacks, Apple is an amazing marketing engine.
My survey says 9 out of 10 Apple-hating Engadget commenters choose Android. TOTAL ANDROID DOMINATION!
Grandma has a smartphone why?
Because she went to get a new phone and got talked into getting one... Happened to my 70+ year old mom. I think she got one of the lower end blackberries... Why? She liked the colour... *shrug*
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3g/3gs the same then?
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3g/3gs the same then?
I know. There totally should be an age limit for getting your email and Internet everywhere from a pocketable device. The nerve of these old people horning in on our tech!
My father and mother (both over 60) have iPhones - and love them. If Android wants to continue marketing to the geeky testosterone set (which their Dennis Leary Ford truck style ads lead me to believe), more power to them. That just demonstrates a complete lack of realization that this is the next wave of computing...for everyone.
Droid Wins!
How's the exclusive carrier strategy working out for you Apple? Never was able to participate in the 3G part of Apple's strategy and now my wife and I are perfectly happy with HTC Eris and Incredible. I always wondered if Apple was covering up a larger issue with dropped calls with the exclusive agreement.
How's the exclusive carrier strategy working out for you Apple? Never was able to participate in the 3G part of Apple's strategy and now my wife and I are perfectly happy with HTC Eris and Incredible. I always wondered if Apple was covering up a larger issue with dropped calls with the exclusive agreement.