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To be honest, you kind of lost me when you said "popular".
Perhaps they should all just invest in a proper smartwatch.

PS: This isn't really an Apple problem, is it? Google added iOS support, it's up to Google to maintain that support, and if it hasn't done so it is solely to make its competitor look bad. Android users should see it as a great example of how software and security updates work on their imitative and fragmented platform.


Apologist kool-aid at its finest. Maybe Apple should fix the problems?
 
It sounds like an Apple problem, if they did an iOS update to fix some issues with Android Wear, and if some issues persist solely for the iPhone 7.

Perhaps there's nothing Google can do to fix this, if it's iPhone 7 specific software bugs (e.g. Bluetooth driver) causing this.
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Always-on display, round screens, just to name a couple of reasons.

A regular watch has an always on display and a round screen, I heard you don't even need to charge it
 
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Apologist kool-aid at its finest. Maybe Apple should fix the problems?

How is this apologist? If you don't hear people complaining about the MS Band pairing or the Fitbits pairing...
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A regular watch has an always on display and a round screen, I heard you don't even need to charge it

Regular watches come in square shapes too.
 
Just to jump in, using chromecast video and audio, they are a better product , for instance chrome cast audio is excellent in turning any speaker into a wireless hotspot, and they work great with my iPhone / Apple gears
Uh, what? Turning a speaker into a wireless hotspot (aka "MiFi") is, well, that's bordering on the RefrigiToaster category of product mashups.
 
A regular watch has an always on display and a round screen, I heard you don't even need to charge it
Of course but with a smartwatch you get notifications, apps, fitness etc. I love the "find my phone" function. And the navigation app which now shows a full map rather than turn-by-turn instructions, it's feasible to use without pulling out the phone. Can't wait for the Zenwatch 3 to be honest.
 
To be honest, you kind of lost me when you said "popular".
Perhaps they should all just invest in a proper smartwatch.

PS: This isn't really an Apple problem, is it? Google added iOS support, it's up to Google to maintain that support, and if it hasn't done so it is solely to make its competitor look bad. Android users should see it as a great example of how software and security updates work on their imitative and fragmented platform.


Sounds like an iOS problem especially since it broke after the last update. I haven't seen someone drink the apple Kool aid this hard since that LTD fella. So salty.
 
How is this apologist? If you don't hear people complaining about the MS Band pairing or the Fitbits pairing...
Out of all the quotes in this thread, that was the one you chose to defend? :eek::oops: Everything that guy has written has been silly fanboy nonsense. Google intentionally sabotaging their own products?:rolleyes: It's a Google issue, not an Apple issue. Afaik, Android Wear works with iOS 10. It has issues with iP7/7+. Apple has already addressed some of those issues with an update. They may require another update to address these. It's pretty simple and a whole lot less paranoid conspiracy theory.
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One of the reasons I pay a premium for Apple devices is because of the tight integration across the devices that is built in to the ecosystem. Given that, it is always strange to read about people that buy a premium Apple phone and then try to pair it with non Apple devices. Sure, it should work. But why?
I am not debating iOS over Android here, just the integration. To me this type of pairing seems like you get the worst of both worlds, at least in terms of integration.
You're ignoring use cases different from yours. Some, like you, live in garden and you're content that way. Others like me visit the garden, and we are equally content that way. That tight integration across the ecosystem? A lot of people don't find it necessary... or desirable. I'm one of those people. Most important to me is to have integration and ease of use with what I do. An all Apple ecosystem doesn't do that for some. Plus, not everything Apple makes is desirable to every person that owns an Apple product. I like MBA's, iPad's, and not much else. My wife and daughter like's iPhones and not much else.

I mean why would you try to pair the iPhone with chromecast or with android wear when the integration with the Apple alternatives are significantly better?
Significantly better how?
 
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Bluetooth issues galore!

iOS latest Beta
tvOS latest Beta

strangely macOS latest Beta ist fine
 
PS: This isn't really an Apple problem, is it? Google added iOS support, it's up to Google to maintain that support, and if it hasn't done so it is solely to make its competitor look bad. Android users should see it as a great example of how software and security updates work on their imitative and fragmented platform.

You shouldn't be allowed to talk about technical issues. Apple's Bluetooth implementation is hardly complying with standards or best practice recommendations. And Apple is notorious to make serious changes with how their OS handles or interprets hardware, even on a low level basis without prior notice or ANY mention in their changelog.

So devs basically have NO chance to act proactively (as if... I know...) as long as Apple treats their future product releases as if it was a matter of national security.
 
There's a lot of users here in Europe who chose Android Wear smartwatch instead of Apple Watch. The decision is mostly because of the design, where Apple Watch look like a smaller iPhone, most Android Wear watches look like regular watch.
Just replying to confirm with my own anecdotal evidence. I've seen 2 Pebbles in the wild, 3 Apple Watches, and 5 or 6 (honestly difficult to tell due to their watch-like appearance) Samsung gear things here in England. They do seem quite popular amongst my circle of friends.

(I have an Apple Watch)
 
There's a lot of users here in Europe who chose Android Wear smartwatch instead of Apple Watch. The decision is mostly because of the design, where Apple Watch look like a smaller iPhone, most Android Wear watches look like regular watch.

Agree to an extent. I do appreciate the design of the Apple Watch, being its not like every round Watch variation on the market, which typically all blend in together. The Apple Watch stands on its own and it's looks sharp when paired with a stainless steel link bracelet or Hermes Band.
 
One of the reasons I pay a premium for Apple devices is because of the tight integration accross the devices that is built in to the ecosystem. Given that, it is always strange to read about people that buy a premium Apple phone and then try to pair it with non Apple devices. Sure, it should work. But why? I mean why would you try to pair the iPhone with cromecast or with android wear when the integration with the Apple alternatives are significantly better?

I am not debating iOS over Android here, just the integration. To me this type of pairing seems like you get the worst of both worlds, at least in terms of integration.

We've entered an era where we expect devices to communicate using standards. For many scenarios, individual apps are the bridges that add compatibility. In this case, isn't it a Google app that is failing to communicate with an Android wearable? That would suggest an iPhone issue if it works properly on other iPhones.
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It goes beyond a watch problem. IOS 10.0.2 has a serious bluetooth problem. I am working with Apple to resolve my hearing aids that no longer stay paired with the new IOS. Apples "hearing devices" will not stay paired, cycling on and off and causing my hearing aid software to disconnect. There are many other devices not working also like BMW and carplay not working. Also there are many speaker Bluetooth systems that have stopped connecting properly.

I have an Apple senior support person who is working with me and the Apple engineers. Only an IOS upgrade with fix the issue. I have been waiting for 3 weeks.

Yah, I would suspect some power-saving mode is shutting off the Bluetooth hardware without first checking to see if it's actually being used.
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Just wait until these watches start catching on fire!

Here's an article with an unfortunate title. :)

http://www.androidexplained.com/enable-burn-in-protection-for-android-wear/
 
To be honest, you kind of lost me when you said "popular".
Perhaps they should all just invest in a proper smartwatch.
... on their imitative and fragmented platform.

Not sure you even realize what you're saying. You're entitled to your opinion but you can't argue taste. The Apple watch looks ugly to a lot of people. Calling Android imitative after about 80% of new iPhone features since iOS 7 come from Android. Besides I'm happy to be able to use Google apps on my iPhone. You need to tone down your sheepness a notch. A lot of people are able to appreciate both Android and Apple without turning it into some childish flaming and unnecessary shade!
 
You get a fraction of the features using android wear with iOS, I don't know why one wouldn't get Apple Watch if they really wanted a smart watch if they were an iPhone user. If looks of the Watch mattered that much then buy a regular watch
This is your opinion. Can't say your opinion is what everyone else thinks too
 
You get a fraction of the features using android wear with iOS, I don't know why one wouldn't get Apple Watch if they really wanted a smart watch if they were an iPhone user. If looks of the Watch mattered that much then buy a regular watch

Well maybe it's because not everyone is a sheep and some people like options. Why buy a watch that is limited to one OS when you can get one that works for both? Sounds like good old common sense to me. I like Apple and enjoy the iPhone once in a while. Not a big fan of the Kool Aid though. I can go from my s7 edge to my nexus 6p to my iPhone 7 with one watch. Why buy 2 or 3 even?
 
You get a fraction of the features using android wear with iOS, I don't know why one wouldn't get Apple Watch if they really wanted a smart watch if they were an iPhone user. If looks of the Watch mattered that much then buy a regular watch
That really is the dumbest thing one could say. So people that want a smartwatch but also want it to look like a nice watch because that's what it is, a WATCH, they should only be able to buy a standard watch...good workaround Confucius. "Man who want nice smartwatch must buy regular watch." Genius!
 
You get a fraction of the features using android wear with iOS, I don't know why one wouldn't get Apple Watch if they really wanted a smart watch if they were an iPhone user. If looks of the Watch mattered that much then buy a regular watch
Because other smart watches are better. The only reason the Apple watch works better with ios is because Apple denied basic accessibilty to other manufacturers. People should be able to buy their preferred watch.
 
I remember I almost bought an Apple Watch (previous gen) January this year. But I couldn't justify it. I wasn't too keen about the appearance, but it's iOS integration is better which is a big plus. I knew however that I wouldn't be able to use it with my Android phone. I still didn't care that much, if I could get the good integration. The main thing however, was the price. It was more than 3 times as expensive as an equivalent Huawei watch. I ended up buying a Huawei Watch with stainless steel band (comes with stainless steel body and sapphire glass display). The Apple Watch I was gonna buy had a huge discount, but I still couldn't justify it. Why would I pay more than 3 times the price for a similar watch? My Huawei Watch worked perfectly for the while I used it with my iPhone 6s, but I ended up syncing it with my HTC 10 after I bought that (more app integration, as well as the ability to make and receive phone calls through the speaker on the watch).
 
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Well maybe it's because not everyone is a sheep and some people like options. Why buy a watch that is limited to one OS when you can get one that works for both? Sounds like good old common sense to me. I like Apple and enjoy the iPhone once in a while. Not a big fan of the Kool Aid though. I can go from my s7 edge to my nexus 6p to my iPhone 7 with one watch. Why buy 2 or 3 even?
No point of trying to make sense to a sheep, I meant Apple fan boy.
 
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One of the reasons I pay a premium for Apple devices is because of the tight integration accross the devices that is built in to the ecosystem. Given that, it is always strange to read about people that buy a premium Apple phone and then try to pair it with non Apple devices. Sure, it should work. But why? I mean why would you try to pair the iPhone with cromecast or with android wear when the integration with the Apple alternatives are significantly better?

I am not debating iOS over Android here, just the integration. To me this type of pairing seems like you get the worst of both worlds, at least in terms of integration.

In a perfect world that would make sense, but that just isn't how it is. Some people might want a smart watch that does things the Apple watch doesn't do. Or they simply like the design of one of the other smart watches better. I don't think one should expect perfect integration in those situations, but to expect someone to be 100% Android or 100% Apple because they like a watch or specific phone or tablet is ridiculous. Just because I have a Samsung TV doesn't mean I should have to have a Samsung sound bar and Samsung blu-ray player.
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A regular watch has an always on display and a round screen, I heard you don't even need to charge it

But my regular watch can't show me the text message that is displayed on my phone that is 4 feet away from me. ;)

I tried the whole smart watch thing and think it is mostly an unnecessary accessory. It is great for working out, no doubt about it. It is also nice for looking at a message or something while driving if you don't want or have your phone hooked up to your car via bluetooth. Other than that, the fact that your phone needs to be within a reasonable distance to still use all the features pretty much eliminates the need for a smart watch. Now maybe in the future they will expand usability without needing the phone around you and that could greatly change the game, but until then it is mostly pointless, in my opinion.
 
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