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I'm not arguing that point -- my question has to do with security specifically. E.g. "Does Apple's review process make iOS store more secure than other vendor's app stores?"

I haven't heard any convincing arguments that it does.

(Disclaimer: I'm an iphone fan and also interested in security. This is purely a mental exercise for me. I'm not trying to fan the flames.)

No, it doesn't make it more secure than other app stores. It all depends on the weakest link of any security system, the humans.

People expect Apple to actually test to make sure the app is what the developer say it is. People can't expect the same from the Android marketplace, they have to take a leap of faith on each application they download from the marketplace. It's practically the same as if they were downloading any applications on any OS including Mac OS X. They expect the applications on the downloads page of Apple.com site to be legit but they shouldn't expect the same for applications elsewhere.
 
This is INACCURATE. I'm tired of people claiming that Apple has a kill switch. They do not, and they are not able to remotely remove apps from people's phones. What they ARE able to do is individually block apps from being allowed to use CoreLocation remotely. That's all.
 
I'll go exactly the other way. Responsibility isn't too bad if there is transparency. Please explain how one gets informed to take the responsibility.

For me, there is plenty of choice on the Apple App store and I feel safe downloading what is out there without having to waste time on due diligence.

I’m with you, this is the exact reason I love apple products and will never go back to windows and one more reason Android will never be the quality that the App store is!:apple:
 
Right...Google just want to save your search history, packets on open WiFi networks, and your voicemail out of the goodness of their hearts. They also want to scan and post for free copyrighted books because they love spreading knowledge. Give me a break.

And what search engine doesn't save our queries?

Let's shine the spotlight on Apple. They have a complete history of every song and app I've ever bought from iTunes or the App store, which I don't mind, I just wish I were allowed to download my items more than once, as I've already had one of my Macs fail on me.

Yes, I'm sure it's all ouf of the goodness of their heart, even though I did refer to them as EVIL, but in light of Apple's current communistic actions, Google isn't the greater of evils in this case.

And just so you know, Google only allows access to books that are out of copyright, or are allowed via the owner's permission. Why didn't you know this? Oh, it's more HATE for you to fester on I suppose. ;)

And give you a break. Hey, that doesn't fall on me. Maybe you should ask Apple for their written permission instead.
 
With freedom comes responsibility.

Having a more free ecosystem means users will have to exercise more responsibility in what they add to their devices. I'd gladly take this over the Apple model.

I'll take a consistent ecosystem, a superior API and language [sorry, but Java is the unwanted child of C++ and ObjectiveC] and higher quality artists/UI designers under Apple's ecosystem, every day of the week.
 
Until Android shows me some amazing apps that do not exist on Apple's Appstore BECAUSE of regulation- this whole argument over what's better (open vs regulated) is moot. I mean sure it's more open, but are you truly getting anything more for that yet?
 
Apple has made the iPhone more secure by not giving humans access to malicious apps.

He was asking about security specifically, the review process does not make the app store more secure than another application store that depends on permission model. Just because users can give permission does not make the phone less secure.

Look at Mac OS X, there's no review app store but with the ACL (permissions, access control list), it's far more "secure" than XP due to ACL system. If MS was doing the app store for XP with no chances for users to get it elsewhere, it'll be just as secure as Mac OS X, and that's just what they have done with Vista/W7 with the UAC.
 
An uncurated App market is lack of the basic mechanism to thrive, not to mention to compare it with a curated app market. It is like to ask which one of the two societies you want to live in, the one that gives everyone total freedom not having any cop watch for crimes, or the one that does have multiple laws to restrict crimes to make most law-abiding citizens happy? The first one, I call it chaos; the second is democracy.
 
Until Android shows me some amazing apps that do not exist on Apple's Appstore BECAUSE of regulation- this whole argument over what's better (open vs regulated) is moot. I mean sure it's more open, but are you truly getting anything more for that yet?

yes i'm getting flash, divx player, google navigation and google voice on my phone =)
 
Until Android shows me some amazing apps that do not exist on Apple's Appstore BECAUSE of regulation- this whole argument over what's better (open vs regulated) is moot. I mean sure it's more open, but are you truly getting anything more for that yet?

Ya, let me know when they have something better and or not on the App store:eek:
I like knowing Apple screens the apps!!!:apple:
 
Let's shine the spotlight on Apple. They have a complete history of every song and app I've ever bought from iTunes or the App store, which I don't mind, I just wish I were allowed to download my items more than once, as I've already had one of my Macs fail on me.


They do. You can download apps as many times as you want on multiple devices. For music/movies Apple support can give you a couple re-downloads but at some point they figure if you can't be bothered to backup your own data then they can't be bothered to do it for you either. I imagine this is some restriction of the content providers. For example if you go buy a BluRay and lose it you can't go back to the store and get a new copy for free.
 
With freedom comes responsibility.

Having a more free ecosystem means users will have to exercise more responsibility in what they add to their devices. I'd gladly take this over the Apple model.

Oh please, put a sock in it. Another clueless techtard who thinks everything should be free. You have no idea what you are talking about. For the average user, they have no clue about these things, nor do they want to. They want their systems to work flawlessly every time without having to worry about it. They want ease of use and security in a full featured and functional device, not a technical masters degree. THIS is why Apple is soooo successful and such a great company with great products.
 
Few high quality apps. Seriously? This is from today only:

-I used Google maps to find a store I was looking for at home, I "starred" it and it was on my phone right away. I didn't even have to type a thing on my phone. I used my FREE navigation to get me right to the driveway.

-At Target I used the barcode app to see if the comforter set I wanted to buy my girlfriend was a good deal. It was.

-At the track I used CardioTrainer. This application uses GPS to track how fast I ran, how far I ran, and how many calories I burned.

-While CardioTrainer ran and tracked my progress, I listened to music stored on my SD card. Halfway through I switched over to Shoutcast.

-On my way home I decided to listen to Last.fm instead of stuff on my SD card. Since last.fm is able to scrobble in the background unhindered I get pretty good recommendations on new music.

-I used Ringdroid to take a snippet of a song I wanted to use as a ringtone. It's as easy as selecting the song and pointing out a "start" and "end" point, then saying set as ringtone.

- I used another application to download a new SMS notification sound. I'm bored with the one I've been using.

-I used a Jabber application to sit on Facebook chat for a bit while my home internet connection was down.

-I missed a call while I was in the shower, so I used Google Voice to read a transcript of the voicemail. I decided it wasn't worth a call back without having to even listen to the voicemail.

That's all I can think of for just today. I'm sure I'm missing something.

Edit: I forgot the best one:

-Backup to Gmail: This application runs several times per day in the background, and it uses IMAP to backup all of my SMS and MMS messages plus my call log to gmail. I literally have an archive of all of my SMS and MMS messages backed up that'll be there as long as Google keeps running gmail.


Yes! Someone who actually knows how to use an Android phone. I use many of these same apps, myself. What about downloading a song or video directly to your device from your favorite music site? Priceless.

I love my Android.
 
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