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I have the utmost respect for the police force in England. Their hands are tied in so many cases and they have to walk a very fine line. The biggest problem is the general lack of respect that the youth of today has for anyone in authority. My step daughter is 13 and I do remember what it was like to be a teenager myself. The classic Kevin and Perry sketch used to be bang on in depicting that change from child-teenager-adult. We all went through the "everyone is picking on me. You don't understnad phase". I don't think that counts anymore.
Kids don't like to be told they are wrong/different/there are other ways of life out there. It is almost like they are sso scared they lash out at anything.
It doesn't suprise me that some idiot kids beat someone to death for being different, That is their mindset. If it isn;t the same as me destroy it. Fight it.
The laws in this country need a real shake up. Carry a knife( i know these kids didn't use one) you should get banged up. End of.
 
The other thing that irks me, is that crimes of this sort are often highlighted in a form of moral panic-stoking that only reflects a tiny percentage of reported crime in this country, and is usually done to further a political cause of an authoritarian bent.
It could also be a wake-up call that some things within the system truly need to be changed. Don't be like the US, where stories of this ilk happen, cause "moral panic-stroking" and then nothing is done about it. It seems as the shock wears off the less "we" care, and thats really sad.

While reading the articles about the crime I was, disturbingly, reminded of the "curb biting" scene from American History X. Very disturbing.

These teens need to spend a long time in a dark hole.
 
Scubajay, thanks for what you do. Don't let the do-gooders get in your hair. Just know if their sex became indiscernible after an attack they'd soon change their tune.
 
The causes of brutality and dehumanisation in English towns and cities go far deeper and further back than 'not having a youth club', many decades...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the indefensible. However, the psychiatrist's reports on the perpetrators will make interesting reading.

The other thing that irks me, is that crimes of this sort are often highlighted in a form of moral panic-stoking that only reflects a tiny percentage of reported crime in this country, and is usually done to further a political cause of an authoritarian bent.

Hence I'd love a docu on the subject, and hence I'm not remotely qualified to tell the story being a Yank.

faintember said:
t could also be a wake-up call that some things within the system truly need to be changed. Don't be like the US, where stories of this ilk happen, cause "moral panic-stroking" and then nothing is done about it. It seems as the shock wears off the less "we" care, and thats really sad.

Yes aberrational acts of teen violence are a phenomenon in America as well. The common thread between the two seems to be that there's a huge public outcry and then deafening silence until the next. Meanwhile the next batch of unstable kids has a new bar to raise. It needs to be understood. There's a story to tell. This is a sociological hurdle that needs dealing with. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but this crap didn't happen 30 years ago. This is a product of our times.
 
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