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Aside from that I'm having to much fun enjoying the fact that We (GSM Users) can steal your Verizon "Worldphones" and use them on GSM carriers. Blackberry Storm/Tour on att/tmobile anybody? To bad you cant do that =) GSM has it.. cdma dosent.
 
No sir! No trace of Verizon meddling or crapware here! :D

Yeah, that damn red check mark crap. That has to be the WORST logo ever. Plus all the wonderful crapware :)

Are you serious?

That picture was just one theme out of hundreds available. You can change it anytime. Unlike the iPhone's look (unless you jailbreak).

I don't know why people want Verizon. CDMA is locked to America. This means that you have to roam if you go to any other country. It's expensive to roam overseas.

Exactly why people wouldn't want an ATT iPhone overseas either. As you point out, it's locked to ATT unless you break your warranty and unlock it.

... why incur the cost of creating a CDMA product just for the US when GSM is a worldwide format.

Because CDMA is the majority format in the USA.

Because customer percentage wise, ten times more people buy iPhones in the USA, than in the rest of the world.

Because the "cost" of making a CDMA version isn't a factor. Remember that Apple already has made three iPhone designs, with major and minor radio differences. Including adding 3G WCDMA, which is a very close cousin of EVDO.

It's not a market size or R&D problem. What stops it from being on Verizon is contractual and business politics.
 
Got a cite? Verizon has never stated that, AFAIK.

What Verizon has said, was that they couldn't come to terms with the money Apple wanted (which has changed), or their ban on sales in places like Walmart (which has changed), or their wanting to handle all warranty decisions (which has not changed).

Some overseas carriers do handle iphone warranty issues.
 
Fast forward to Apple iPhone and Verizon. Verizon had their show. They couldn't agree to terms of Apple. Apple pitched their product to ATT who agreed to the terms of the deal (well ATT got an even better deal after revenue sharing ended with the iphone 3g s).

So Verizon had the first shot. They fumbled it. ATT has been the big winner with agreement to sell Apple iPhone.

Since the iphone was launched in late June 2007 --- and we went through the current economic problems --- Verizon's stock price went down something like 30% vs. AT&T went down something like 40%.

Apple is the big winner. AT&T is the big loser.
 
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Apple went to Verizon first. Verizon wanted their content store. Apple said no, Verizon turned them down.

I think its sad when people speak on what happened in the meetings between apple and verizon.

You weren't there, you don't know anyone who was at the meeting(s), so why do you talk of it like its a proven fact as to what happened? Its just speculation on your part. We don't know what went down or how/why it happened.
 
Exactly why people wouldn't want an ATT iPhone overseas either. As you point out, it's locked to ATT unless you break your warranty and unlock it.
Unlocking the phone isn't extremely difficult (unless you're dumber than a creationist/intelligent design advocate). Also, unless you forget the standard precautions, the people at Apple won't know that you've unlocked the phone.

When you compare the relative ease of unlocking versus paying out the wazoo for Verizon's overseas roaming, it doesn't make sense to go CDMA. Obviously, if you never travels overseas, this is moot. However, there are people like me who aren't isolationists and want to see different cultures, places and people.

My $0.02.
 
Man, reading this thread you'd think that a Verizon iPhone wouldn't sell, but I think it's sell like crazy. VZW's network is just so much better and more reliable than AT&T's, and this is not coming from a fanboy. Look at any cell service survey from any number of consumer magazines and Verizon constantly comes out on top. Consumer Reports has found that VZW's network has the best reliability and strength overall.

I owned an iPhone 3G for about 2 weeks last year before returning it; and the reason I returned it was not because the phone itself was the problem: it was AT&T's crap-tacular network. Aside from being in a big city, I got little to no reception elsewhere. I happened to have a 3G VZW phone with me as well, and everywhere that the iPhone didn't get 3G or even 2G signal, the Verizon phone was picking up 2-4 bars.

I think it's most likely for Verizon and Apple to release an iPhone once Verizon's LTE network rollout has gotten at least as far as AT&T's 3G network was when the iPhone 3G came out. I think Apple will likely make an announcement at MacWorld 2011. This is assuming that Verizon's LTE rollout stays on track, and that AT&T's exclusivity deal lasts through 2010.

Remember, both Verizon and AT&T will be using the LTE standard, which is going to surely become the world standard, letting all you roam-happy folks be appeased, I hope.

And FWIW, I would buy a Verizon iPhone in a hot second.
 
Unlocking the phone isn't extremely difficult (on a side note let me enter a useless piece of information here: unless you're dumber than a creationist/intelligent design advocate). Also, unless you forget the standard precautions, the people at Apple won't know that you've unlocked the phone.

When you compare the relative ease of unlocking versus paying out the wazoo for Verizon's overseas roaming, it doesn't make sense to go CDMA. Obviously, if you never travels overseas, this is moot. However, there are people like me who aren't isolationists and want to see different cultures, places and people.

My $0.02.

FYP
 
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