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I actually miss Jony Ive.
Why? He’s still around. You can find him by his designirelly designed design company name “lovefrom,”. Such a designed piece of a designed design from a designer 🤷🏻‍♂️😂
 
I dunno, the “little kids making their little electronics” bit is probably an unavoidable aspect of Chinese manufacturing, there’s no way to 100% verify Chinese supply chains’ compliance with international labor standards.
Which is still a reminder that all Tim Cook is about is money.
 
Ive lived by tunnel vision. He never understood why anyone would want something other than what he designed. He was a great designer, but designing for designs sake caused a lot of headaches for professional Mac users.

Things seem to be back on track for the most part; although I question some of Apple's decisions on base model specs and what is charged for upgrades; but I do not live in a base spec world, so all in all that does not affect me.
 
Well certainly, smartphones and smartwatches are pretty much incumbent, mature technologies these days. Probably little room for the kind of “I want to design the world!” sorts Johnny Ive probably attracted. And most of Apple’s computers are laptops, there’s little room for groundbreaking design there. Really, with the exception of the Mac Mini and Mac Studio, most of Apple’s hardware is pretty constrained by its form-factor and usage patterns. VR/AR is probably where Apple’s engineers and designers wanting to try something new all are these days.
Or folding screens, or cars, or MacPro... Just to name a few. Or maybe a revisitation of some products with radical new designs and/or materials (re-create a titanium MBP? A small MacBook (no added name)).
 
Yeah you can definitely feel that a new generation has taken over at Apple.

It’s been apparent for a while, really. Stuff like the horrible Safari redesign really made it obvious.

To be honest, I feel that Apple is stagnating. Their products just lack soul, the pricing ladder is so BS that a lot of their products are just plain crap, and now they’re in to everything from TV shows to credit cards. It’s just so corporate. It doesn’t feel like Apple any more.
Their products lack soul, because their CEO lacks soul.
 
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Ive and Jobs brought Apple out of bankruptcy, they gave the company a new direction.

Product launches where always WOW, with bold new designs & great concepts.

Fast forward to today under Cook, we have a company with no direction, no bold new designs.

Everybody is bailing out. With Apples only Widcard iVision pro!.

Maybe get out from under your rock?
 
Can they please hire some designers that will get rid of the horrendous camera protrusions?

Not only is it a hilarious ergonomic joke that a premium phone can't lay flat on a surface, the bump is creating wear spots in all my jeans.

Can't you afford any stand and place it where you frequent spot to lurk around? Mine always rest on a magsafe charging stand. I'll prefer better cameras than mere mortals who wear skinny jeans especially we're back to 1080p 30fps with spatial video.
 
Tweaking the iPhone year after year has got to be soul crushing. I can’t blame them all for bailing
I think that depends on how management acts.

1. There is the "****, sit down, and make it cheaper" of style management
2. There is the "We need 3 new designs, so lets send each of 3 teams off campus for 6 months" style of management
3. There is the "Our actions say we just don't care" style of management
4. There is the "OMG, we still have designers, we need to reduce that overhead" style of management
5. There is the "Lets just wait and see what Google does" style of management
6. There is the "Devices are so old fashioned, we need to do services and conquer the world" style of management

Feel free to vote on which one is todays Apple.
 
Well, whatever team or whoever is designing now has to fix the protrusions on the back of the iPhone, and remove the incredibly irritating cutouts on the iPhone and MacBooks.....Sheesh!

And don't get me started about the loss of versatility of the ports on the MacBook Pros. Might as well remove the headphone jack and claim "courage".
 
I couldn’t possibly disagree more. I’m a designer, and I hated Ive’s later work. It was talking to itself…smug and too cute by half. It was the opposite of form follows function. It was form defeats function.

The new products work for the people using them. Apple Watch Ultra is a huge improvement over Apple Watch. Mac Studio is incredible. The new Studio displays are glorious. The new MacBook Pro is a true pro workstation…and without dongles. The MacBook Air is a delight, and very powerful. And iPhone has incredible cameras. Dynamic island is a useful innovation around a necessary evil.

To each his own but Apple finally is running at a good clip.
Actually, current Apple reuses a lot and I think you like thick and heavy over thin and light. I am not in favour of hardware obesity. Apple Ultra is not at all a huge improvement over Apple Watch. It is having more function and thereby a thicker design. Thicker from an already thick Apple Watch. Mac Studio is the direct descendent of the Trashcan MP, headless no internal expansion. The Trashcan MP and the iMac Pro would both fly with ASi inside. Where is the true MP instead of the Mac Studio Plus we got recently? The dongle free time coincide with USB-C being pandemic but I agree the HDMI makes good sense for a while but where is the Ethernet port in a PROfessional workstation??? Not dongle free to work as true workstation. Both the MBP and Air are "heavy" in their design despite the power efficient ASi. The original "Air" was a design classic while the current one will be forgotten after the next hardware update. Both laptops borrowed design from Powerbook Titanium. iPhones have good cameras are so heavy it is nearly a joke. The iMac and iPad still have unobtrusive designs but with current trends, not for long. No, the designs of Apple is going downhill. Where is the chins drop and I-just-want-to-have-that-device?
 
sounds like Mr. Ive and apple basically just diverted several hundred million dollars to his private interests for nothing

the rich stay winning
 
Mac rumours posters: “who”?

Gen X Australians “he. Where’s the cheese”,
Guy definitely had a varied and… interesting… career up to now. I guess I see why working at a space habitation technology startup would appeal to him.
 
Can they please hire some designers that will get rid of the horrendous camera protrusions?

Not only is it a hilarious ergonomic joke that a premium phone can't lay flat on a surface, the bump is creating wear spots in all my jeans.
I agree, I rather the phone be fatter with no camera bump and a bigger longer lasting battery.
 
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At this point I think anyone can design a metal and glass square with rounded edges.
 
Can't you afford any stand and place it where you frequent spot to lurk around? Mine always rest on a magsafe charging stand. I'll prefer better cameras than mere mortals who wear skinny jeans especially we're back to 1080p 30fps with spatial video.
You know nothing about me, the clothes I wear, and the way I use my phone. Way to go, captain presumptuous.
 
I dunno, the “little kids making their little electronics” bit is probably an unavoidable aspect of Chinese manufacturing, there’s no way to 100% verify Chinese supply chains’ compliance with international labor standards.
Well, it’s unavoidable (not justifiable anyway) for fashion brands that want the lowest price and use contractors of contractors of contractors in Bangladesh. Since Apple has few big factories, they could probably get more control. Or just manufacture their phone anywhere human life is given value and meaning.
 
We have to accept that multibillion-dollar companies want to please everyone. Gone are the old days when we designers loved Apple. It's a household brand for everyone. Upholding corrupt ESG ratings and DEI methods by the WEF are more critical these days.
 
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