Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
If it's print design a glossy screen won't help you,
No laptop screen will help you, buy an external accurate display

if it's web most end users have matte screens.
That's irrelevant since you have zero control over the end-user's viewing environment. Many PC displays are darker and there is such a wide variety of laptop displays that you can never be color accurate, at least not to the point that the MBP's glossy screen will make or break the project.

If it's video, you'll have a consumer-level monitor hooked into your set-up.
Or you have TVs, and you have Flash compression and a variety of artifacts.
 
Buy a Dell. Buy an HP. Oh wait! They have glossy screens too...
[...]

Sure about that? You shouldn't.

From the Ita Dell site (model e5500, there are even other models. Furthermore, if you prefer, you can have the glossy one - recommended by Dell - without paying 50$ more!!!)
 

Attachments

  • Picture 1.png
    Picture 1.png
    58 KB · Views: 74
Just ask for the matte option, but don't seek to take away glossy options for those that like it.

The title pretty much sums it up, to me that glass thing was a horrible, horrible choice, they might have thought they could make it less reflective. Actually, forget "might", I am quite sure they got the materials ok that this was going to be less reflective and went ahead with the design. Up close though....it's horrid...it's about 3 times (roughly) more reflective to me than the previous gen glossy, it's glossier than any other pc or mac put side by side in stores, it gets impossible reflectivity from any angle...so please apple listen up:

PLEASE APPLE OFFER US A 15" MATTE OPTION, TAKE THAT GLASS AWAY, WE CAN'T HANDLE IT, WE ARE NOT ALL 15 YEAR OLDS WATCHING MOVIES ON PROS, SOME OF US WANT TO ACTUALLY DO SOME WORK. WE ARE PAYING A LOT, LOT OF MONEY FOR THIS MACHINE, LEAVE IT UP TO US TO DECIDE WHAT SCREEN WE WANT.

Since you admitted that your high, high end customers are not happy with the glossy in the 17" presentation, that means they are not happy with the 15" either. We too are not happy. So make it happen.:apple:
 
The title pretty much sums it up...So make it happen.:apple:
Your thread has one problem: you're barking up the wrong tree! Apple isn't reading this thread (or any other MR forum thread), so your ranting here is pointless and ineffective. If you really want Apple to hear what you have to say, say it here:
If, however, you're not as interested in changing things as you are in ranting and upping your post count, then continue on with this highly-repetitive-already-been-thoroughly-beaten-to-death-in-hundreds-of-threads topic. :rolleyes:
 
[...]
If, however, you're not as interested in changing things as you are in ranting and upping your post count, then continue on with this highly-repetitive-already-been-thoroughly-beaten-to-death-in-hundreds-of-threads topic.
:eek:
It's not what you're doing, is it?
 
:eek:
It's not what you're doing, is it?

I didn't start this thread, expecting Apple to be listening. I don't start repetitive threads. I couldn't care less about my post count, unlike some who want to reach that magic 500, so they can get an avatar!

Besides, you missed the whole point of my post. The point is, if you have a complaint or suggestion for Apple, they have a site where you can give them feedback. They won't get the message if you post it here.
 
[...]
Besides, you missed the whole point of my post. The point is, if you have a complaint or suggestion for Apple, they have a site where you can give them feedback. They won't get the message if you post it here.

I agree with you... no... I do not agree.

I think they were sure about reactions like these. I think they do not even listen to feedback comments received through their pages. As I wrote, I think that they will introduce a matte option if and only if MBP sales drop below a threshold.

But these threads represent an important hint for prospective buyers who can be warned about how bad some people think the glassy screen is.

thistle
 
I agree with you... no... I do not agree.
I think they were sure about reactions like these. I think they do not even listen to feedback comments received through their pages. As I wrote, I think that they will introduce a matte option if and only if MBP sales drop below a threshold.

But these threads represent an important hint for prospective buyers who can be warned about how bad some people think the glassy screen is.
thistle

Actually, Apple DOES listen to comments posted through their feedback site. I've made suggestions there and have even been contacted by Apple regarding some, although they set the expectation that they won't contact you. That's the same method their support reps use to make suggestions.

I agree that it's helpful when people post "here's my experience" or "here's my opinion" on various topics. However, it's foolish to expect that a post here, saying "Listen up, Apple!" is going to cause anything to change. All this has done is trigger the worn-out debate on matte vs glossy. No one should buy a MacBook Pro without seeing them in person, to determine which they prefer. And it all comes down to personal preference.

There are "pros" who prefer glossy and "pros" who prefer matte and "pros" who prefer not to use notebooks at all. Likewise, there are non-pros who prefer one or the other. If anything is to be learned from the matte vs glossy debates, it's the fact that there is no "winner". Some prefer matte, for whatever reason, and some prefer glossy.
 
No laptop screen will help you, buy an external accurate display


That's irrelevant since you have zero control over the end-user's viewing environment. Many PC displays are darker and there is such a wide variety of laptop displays that you can never be color accurate, at least not to the point that the MBP's glossy screen will make or break the project.


Or you have TVs, and you have Flash compression and a variety of artifacts.

I wasn't making any case for the matte screen, just querying why the poster required a glossy screen to do 'pro work'. I've been working as a graphic designer for ten years. I also used to edit video professionally and author DVDs. When I mentioned having a 'consumer-level monitor hooked up' I meant a TV not a computer monitor...
 
First let me thank GGJStudios for posting that link as I send in my singular request.

As for why matte over an external screen: I see laptops as tools to use on location where as files are brought back to MacPros with external calibrated monitors so to me it's the difference between location work verses office and again translates down to the difference between transporting the 17' verses the 15"

Finally I do feel the more of these threads the greater the chance that Apple will see there is enough support to offer the option. 'The squeaky wheel gets the grease' by keeping everyone attune to the oversight. +1 for the option
 
While I use the 17" glossy and don't really have an issue with it. (not used in professional apps) It is strange they don't offer the same matte option for 15" MBP's. Obviously it's not to tough for them to do and they make another $50 bucks just because they call it an "option".

While I understand having the matte screen from Apple is important for some, don't most professionals that this makes a difference hook up to larger external monitors?

If I'm at my desk I'm usually hooked up a larger monitor. Again I understand you all want a choice and I'm not against that at all. Just seems like anyone that claims to be a pro user would not be using a 15" screen with 1440x900 resolution. I even went the 17" route simply due to the resolution when I do work with it not hooked to a larger screen.

Good Luck with your petitions, who knows Apple may change their mind.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.