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Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil
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Nope, not for me. Useful maybe on the iPad pro and I may be tempted to buy it.
Can't find use for it on the iPhone and I don't think that will change.
Can't find use for it on the iPhone and I don't think that will change.
With iPhone displays getting larger, it might make sense to be able to write notes using the pencil rather than typing or using a finger. On a 4" phone it made little sense to use a pencil. But with screens approaching the size of iPad Minis, it makes a lot of sense.
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Are you saying Samsung made the stylus first?
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Well Jobs wasn't averse to changing his mind. He certainly had a vision for that particular time but he may well have considered using a pencil on the large iPhones/smartphones of today. We just don't know. When he made that comment we had the first iPhone which is now considered tiny, so I feel he was right for the time.
If Apple do launch a pencil to use on the phone I wonder if it will be in two parts. So multi-purpose which would sit well with consumers to use shorter part for the iPhone and click on the top half or third to use on the iPads.
If Apple do launch a pencil to use on the phone I wonder if it will be in two parts. So multi-purpose which would sit well with consumers to use shorter part for the iPhone and click on the top half or third to use on the iPads.
Steve jobs said no to a stylus that would act as a UI control, this is an art tool, his point still stands
I love using my Apple Pencil on my iPad Pro 12.9" and this would be a reason to put me in line to get the iPhone XS Plus.
This! Yes, I can't stand everyone comparing the Apple Pencil to that quote. Jobs was re-defining how we use mobile phones, we changed the way we thought about input. Using our fingers was one of the key features of the iPhone. The multi-touch display was revolutionary and didn't need a stylus (while other devices at the time did). The Apple Pencil is a tool for drawing and annotating etc. But, back then people actually used styluses to select and tap on the screen.. the Apple Pencil is totally different.
Totally agree. Only that Apple will charge you $100 for the pencil plus $30 for a fancy leather case.
And yes, still "You've got to get them out, put them away, you lose them - yeurgh"
Yup, that was my thinking too.
I use the pencil with my iPad Pro almost daily, for notes and annotating.
I would never use it with my 4” iphone SE, but looking at the sizes that iPhones are going, they’re becoming more like nano iPads, than big phones. And I’m guessing that many fans of these huge phones use them as their single device, without an additional iPad. So perhaps more likely to be using it for productivity/notes/arty things. So a pencil use might make sense.
Certainly no problem with having it is an option, as pointed out above.. doesn’t detract from the device if you decide not to use that function.
(Unlike say the switch to wireless headphones only, with no choice to stick with wired 3.5....!)
Some concerns that I think are legitimate:
1) I'm not sure I get the point of a stylus on iPhone, unless they bake in a lot of stylus-based interactions into the OS like Samsung does. Simply having a more-exact-than-my-finger input method doesn't matter much to me personally, because everything I do on my iPhone is optimized for finger input. I'm not signing signatures or drawing anything (other than the occasional circle or arrow in a screenshot) on a regular basis. Of course, this is based on my personal use-- maybe other people are doing things that would benefit from a Pencil regularly.
2) Holding a large iPhone (don't see how drawing on a smaller screen would be an enjoyable experience) and a large Pencil (it's pretty big compared to a regular pencil/pen, and absolutely huge compared to the S-Pen) doesn't seem like it be very comfortable for drawing/writing. Which leads to...
3) It would probably be more comfortable writing on the iPhone while it's resting on a surface, but we all know how setting the iPhone down on a flat surface and putting pressure on the screen goes. Wobbles back and forth like nobody's business.
4) I'd also probably have to go fetch the Pencil anytime I wanted to use it, since I'm not gonna carry it around in my pocket. One of the pluses of the S-Pen is that it's always attached to the phone.
I totally understand that maybe this just isn't meant for me, but I'm struggling to see the added benefit aside from a "me too" of the S-Pen (and this is coming from an Apple "fanboy" who would never use a Samsung phone) when it comes to iPhone compatibility. I have an iPad Pro and love the Pencil there for note-taking on a large screen-- mostly because it's comfortably large enough to write on, I can lay it flat on a surface, and the iPad lives in a bag when I'm traveling (so I can just throw the Pencil in the bag).
On the other hand, if this means increased refresh rates on iPhone, that alone will be a major plus for me!
1) I'm not sure I get the point of a stylus on iPhone, unless they bake in a lot of stylus-based interactions into the OS like Samsung does. Simply having a more-exact-than-my-finger input method doesn't matter much to me personally, because everything I do on my iPhone is optimized for finger input. I'm not signing signatures or drawing anything (other than the occasional circle or arrow in a screenshot) on a regular basis. Of course, this is based on my personal use-- maybe other people are doing things that would benefit from a Pencil regularly.
2) Holding a large iPhone (don't see how drawing on a smaller screen would be an enjoyable experience) and a large Pencil (it's pretty big compared to a regular pencil/pen, and absolutely huge compared to the S-Pen) doesn't seem like it be very comfortable for drawing/writing. Which leads to...
3) It would probably be more comfortable writing on the iPhone while it's resting on a surface, but we all know how setting the iPhone down on a flat surface and putting pressure on the screen goes. Wobbles back and forth like nobody's business.
4) I'd also probably have to go fetch the Pencil anytime I wanted to use it, since I'm not gonna carry it around in my pocket. One of the pluses of the S-Pen is that it's always attached to the phone.
I totally understand that maybe this just isn't meant for me, but I'm struggling to see the added benefit aside from a "me too" of the S-Pen (and this is coming from an Apple "fanboy" who would never use a Samsung phone) when it comes to iPhone compatibility. I have an iPad Pro and love the Pencil there for note-taking on a large screen-- mostly because it's comfortably large enough to write on, I can lay it flat on a surface, and the iPad lives in a bag when I'm traveling (so I can just throw the Pencil in the bag).
On the other hand, if this means increased refresh rates on iPhone, that alone will be a major plus for me!
Samsung Notes are just ripoffs of the Apple Newton anyways but Androiders are gonna hate.
I still think styluses on phones are a waste, I had several Windows Phones, and am still finding styluses all over the place since they used to fall out all the time or get misplaced.
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I've used my iPad pro with the pen outdoor in the winter, wearing thick gloves. (not drawing something, just for UI and scrolling). Now an iPhone with face ID and a pen would be perfect for use with gloves. Like it.
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That's a silly argument, and very (uncharacteristically) smug for a MacRumors article. As mentioned by many others, Jobs was talking about products designed to use stylus as the only vehicle for touch input.
A little less editorializing, Joe. That's not what we come to MacRumors for.
If a finger was good enough for Stevie J, it's good enough for me. What's next, a hole for a stylus holder?
I can't imagine how this will at all be a useful addition feature wise. The Apple Pencil is huge. If the dimensions of the new iPhone X Plus are similar to the Plus iPhones now, it would just be awkward, let alone using the Apple Pencil on the smaller iPhone X. Unless Apple launches Apple Pencil 2 that is smaller, which wouldn't make sense for use with the iPad Pros. Here's a pic of my Apple Pencil next to my 7 Plus.
This doesn't make sense to me unless the pencil gets redesigned.
If they do add support, I can only imagine the hideous iPhone X cases that will emerge as a result.
If they do add support, I can only imagine the hideous iPhone X cases that will emerge as a result.
You must be one of those Samsung haters that does everything possible to not give Samsung credit for being the innovative company that the industry relies on. Look at the screen on your X and thank your lucky stars Samsung pushed OLED tech to the point where Apple was able to get it at a price that met its greedy standards. Pathetic.
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Lol, the desperation. Thanks for proving my point, the shameless excuses have already begun.
DaRev, the concept of a portable computing device like the Newton predate it by many years. Products aren't developed in a vacuum. They stem from many sources, including academic research. Very rarely are products reactionay answers to each other, as so many tech enthusiasts believe. They, including the Newton, do not emerge from thin air.
Don't forget the original iphone had a tiny screen, and as advanced as it was at the time, it really did not have the horsepower to do all the things it was doing as is.
You must be one of the Apple Haters, for not recognizing Samsung ripping off the Apple Newton & Apple Newton Message Pad. Apple has had styluses and Electronic PDAs at a time when Samsung was still only known for Washing Machines and home appliances.
like everyone says, it would be nice for a choice if customers want to use it BUT it has to be smaller. as you see in the above picture the current pencil is way to big to use on a phone.
now for storage, they might create a case that can store the new pencil with the phone (just an idea)
now for storage, they might create a case that can store the new pencil with the phone (just an idea)